unJon
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September 10th, 2019 at 7:56:13 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Tiger you play Bacc. so you know what that shoe I played last night means.

Kubikulann evidently knows absolutely nothing about Baccarat or else he would understand that anyone who FAILED to win big on a shoe like that would be as clueless about the game as he apparently is. I am not trying to insult him per se, but he is being insulting when he fails to acknowledge that this was an easy winner's shoe.

My strategy is to wait for such shoes, and play into them, into the runs. If a person cannot "see" that, he might as well just give up gambling now.



What progression do you use when you press into a run?
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
100xOdds
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September 10th, 2019 at 8:02:03 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Tiger you play Bacc. so you know what that shoe I played last night means.

Kubikulann evidently knows absolutely nothing about Baccarat or else he would understand that anyone who FAILED to win big on a shoe like that would be as clueless about the game as he apparently is. I am not trying to insult him per se, but he is being insulting when he fails to acknowledge that this was an easy winner's shoe.

My strategy is to wait for such shoes, and play into them, into the runs. If a person cannot "see" that, he might as well just give up gambling now.


i have no clue how bacc is played.
i just know the Wiz says bet Banker always.
i just let the dealer/screen tell me if i won or loss.

so when buzzed, i just sit at an ez-Bacc table (no commission) and just toss chips on Banker.
when i win 2 in a row, press 50% on 3rd bet. and keep pressing 50% till i lose.
rinse/repeat.

on your shoe, if i started at $10, i would have made a few $ using my simple drunk system
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ChumpChange
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September 10th, 2019 at 8:32:58 PM permalink
EZ Baccarat - Wizard of Odds https://wizardofodds.com/games/ez-baccarat/
AxelWolf
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September 11th, 2019 at 12:26:44 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I'm a huge playa. Run billions through the tables. $5,000 is a small bet for someone like me.
Why does everybody hate me so?

I'll be more likely to believe you if you make sure I notice you have a couple Rolex watches and included in all your pictures. I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

If I only knew how to post up pictures from my computer.

p.s. Toss a picture of a 99-cent ribeye and it's on brother. Bonus points if you show me your bus pass.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
SOOPOO
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September 11th, 2019 at 5:26:59 AM permalink
MD, you showed us the results screen thing for a bac shoe you played. Is there actually a hand you bet on that BEFORE you bet on it you believe the next result was influenced by the result of the previous hand?
That is the reason you are being subject to scorn by the AP contingent. They all know that after a streak of 6 consecutive players, the next hand is still more likely to be banker. After a streak of 6 consecutive bankers, the next hand is still only slightly more likely to be banker, and still not a good bet as you only get paid 95 cents on the dollar.
A question for you.... if you would have lost those last 3 $5000 bets, would you have posted about it? Hi guys, let me tell you about how I lost $31k today....
MDawg
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September 11th, 2019 at 6:41:22 AM permalink
I don't consider "players" who scrounge for free play on slot machines (or wherever) to be "AP," this is low end that I wouldn't bother with. But, even among them before I blocked them on this forum I noticed that they made fun of Dark, which tells me that their comments come not from disbelief but from jealousy and envy at anyone claiming success, even if that success is within the subset of whatever they are trying to do themselves. I'm sure that if I met any of them in person they'd say Nice to Meet You and all the same things that everyone does in real life to stay alive, but here online they act like snide tigers and so I blocked them. The one post I caught recently from Axel by mistake because I was logged out he didn't even know the difference between my $65,000. DD 40mm Platinum and the fake Rolex he has in a drawer, so this is not someone in my peer group or anyone who has anything meaningful to teach me. Let Axel spend his life burning in jealousy and envy against Darkov I don't have time for that negativity.

Soopoo I guess you're not a Bacc. player? because Baccarat players dream about shoes like the one I hit,

or really any shoe where the bank or player runs more than five or six in a row. It's not even just that the bank and player ran it's that they ran BACK TO BACK repeating the same pattern.

Saturday night when I was playing, at the table next door they got something like a dozen players followed by one bank and then ANOTHER dozen players and they practically emptied the tray. Perfect symmetry. They had players playing to table limit $20K a hand within several hands of the first player run. I kept wanting to run over to their table and toss some bets down too, but I kept thinking that it might be too late, that the run might end, also every betting circle was full on that table so I would have had to place bets alongside some of the smaller players who weren't playing to the limit.

By the way, the reason I got down $16K in the first place before I got even and then ahead $26K or so, was on a shoe where it chopped player bank back and forth nine times. I kept betting progressively on that a second player or bank would drop, and it dropped only once. I should have simply played the chop as the pattern expressed itself quickly, but I just didn't see it until it was too late. For whatever reason I am much better at detecting and hitting runs than chops. I have to work on that.

In that shoe

there was no particular skill or detection necessary it was just plain obvious. You bet one side until it ran out, then played the other, then back to the other, I mean it had back to back five sets of runs, it was a no brainer. It had a several good runs near the beginning of the shoe too. Someone asked about my usual progression - it depends on a lot of factors, but partly on whether I am already ahead, in which case my most aggressive progression is to triple at least 3 hands in a row. If I had been playing like that I would have cleared a half million easily on that shoe, but I was instead just tossing an extra hundred or so on each hand, and didn't really play harder than a thousand a hand. That's the thing, once you have won a bunch in a row and are comfortably ahead it's sometimes hard to jump the bet and risk everything you have recently won in one hand, but when given the opportunity, that's what you really should do.

Last trip I made a gang of loot on this shoe that I posted previously:

and the pattern there was quickly and easily painfully obvious - bet the bank and stay with the bank after any single player, this pattern was broken only thrice in the entire shoe. The guy above who posted about betting only bank would have won on this shoe, but betting only bank in the long term is defeatist might as well not even play Baccarat, over time you'll just lose.

Everyone who plays Bacc. knows that there are good shoes and bad shoes, to claim otherwise tells me that you don't play the game. And anyone who didn't clean up on either of the shoes I just posted has no business in a casino. The key also is to get up and leave after a good shoe, I actually haven't even been back to play since that shoe Monday night.

Anyway the stock market just opened gotta get back to that. Good luck in whatever your casino play is. And for the record, I consider AP to be BJ while counting cards/tracking the flow, which I do that when I play BJ. NOT scrounging for free play.
billryan
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September 11th, 2019 at 7:22:19 AM permalink
I'm jealous. I keep trying to tap into the Sacred Flow of the Cards but evidently my Cosmic Awareness isn't up to snuff. I'm working on gathering extra Kharma Points but the ploppies at the small tables keep releasing Negativity into the situation.
darkoz
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September 11th, 2019 at 8:43:15 AM permalink
MDawg paraphrased me I am certain from some long ago convo about AP but to be clear as most evreryone on.here knows.

I do consider AP from freeplay to BE AP.

i pretty much make an AP living doing that.

I wouldn't call it "scrounging". We can assign words to anything.

Ex.(I was systematically and strategically collecting freeplay while xyz player was operating as a degenerate gambler playjng martys at negative ev games.) See, its pretty easy to do

But rather than assign descriptors of my choice let me state that any comment I made that Axel or Max are just jealous of success was most probably descriptive of their attitude towards my ability to ride public transportation. They suffer from a sad phobia and I can sympathize with their condition
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September 11th, 2019 at 9:13:22 AM permalink
Ya you block many posters BUT just happen to read a post by Alex because you were logged out..... Everyone on here knows many people say they block certain posters but hardly any really do. The urge to read the negative is very strong. So people will say they block but we all know they read every post. Just human nature.
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MDawg
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September 11th, 2019 at 12:42:03 PM permalink
I would no more spend time on blocked posts - duh, I blocked them for a reason - than I would post the image of the bull unless I owned a Lamborghini, which actually we own two in our family.

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