How do they know it's a suicide?

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The man who jumped to his death Sunday morning at the South Point parking garage has been identified as James Joseph Binns Jr.
Binns, 37, was the manager of a local mixed martial arts gym, Fight Capital Gym.

Maybe this one is or not, but jumps are the least convincing, if you ask me.

Can't pay a debt, you end up sailing off a parking garage or off a balcony. Plus being Vegas and all makes me think of people getting into trouble.

Looks like an accident or a suicide, not something else. Seems too easy.

Also, if someone want to ruin you, suicide may also nullify your insurance leaving your family nothing.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/local/las-vegas/coroner-ids-man-who-died-sunday-suicide-south-point

Quote: rxwine

Maybe this one is or not, but jumps are the least convincing, if you ask me.

Can't pay a debt, you end up sailing off a parking garage or off a balcony. Plus being Vegas and all makes me think of people getting into trouble.

Looks like an accident or a suicide, not something else. Seems too easy.

Also, if someone want to ruin you, suicide may also nullify your insurance leaving your family nothing.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/local/las-vegas/coroner-ids-man-who-died-sunday-suicide-south-point

As far as falling or jumping, just have to depend on where they fall from, witness testimony. Perhaps suicides fall differently, dont know. Probably little difference.

Quote: onenickelmiracle

wrong!

Suicide pays out if after the two year waiting period. Google it.

But wouldn't that leave insurance companies open to massive policy payouts, say, you want to leave your family well-off.

Quote: rxwine

Quote: onenickelmiracle

wrong!

Suicide pays out if after the two year waiting period. Google it.

But wouldn't that leave insurance companies open to massive policy payouts, say, you want to leave your family well-off.

The people haven't killed enough of themselves yet, or fast enough apparently. Sounds really nice giving your life up, so others can have money, but the survival instinct and selfishness are powerful. After two years, people may either already killed themselves, changed mind, possibly improving their lives enough to not need the money or being wiser. Perhaps the widespread belief suicide voids life insurance stops depressed from obtaining life insurance first, if they could even wait.

Not all policies have a two year noncontestibility clause.

All casino deaths are suicides, the casino manager sees to that. PR flacks know its a suicide no matter how many non-impact injuries there are or what trajectory the corpse took.

NOTE: He left behind a wife and three and two-thirds kids. Coworkers and employees described him as always cheerful and helpful to them. None observed any changes in his demeanor and he remained passionate about boxing and boxers.

No link seen to recent shooting near downtown parking lot.

On the other hand, just HOW would an assailant go about throwing a Mixed Martial Arts instructor and gym owner off a balcony? A new style in negotiations over a figher whose contract he held? It sure wasn't that bantam weight female fighter he knew.

Fall off a ladder at home while removing Christmas decorations and the family transported the body??? Seems absurd. And how do you hit head first if its a fall from a ladder? Or did very Catholic family not want a "suicide" to have taken place?

Are you saying there's a casino parking garage in Vegas that doesn't have security cameras? They must have footage.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Are you saying there's a casino parking lot in Vegas that doesn't have security cameras? They must have footage.

Most garage cameras are focused on the entrances and exits, the central roadways, not the extreme perimeter and most cameras have blind spots due to pillars etc.

Wish the Coronor would get to the bottom of this.

You can't throw a MMA instructor off a ledge unless you are about five of his best pupils.

If it was 'falling off a ladder at home' how did he hit headfirst? Why did they move the body?

Will South Point sue for bad publicity?