Will wait for the end of this 'Drama series', or at least the Season Finale.
Wouldn't want to spoil anything for the viewers....
As a side note, I don't believe the big three posters there are the same person. I could believe 2 persons. If it's really just one, I cannot help but feel sorry/empathetic to their plight. Seriously deranged is the most flattering term I can come up with ;-)
Quote: TwoFeathersATLAs a side note, I don't believe the big three posters there are the same person. I could believe 2 persons. If it's really just one, I cannot help but feel sorry/empathetic to their plight. Seriously deranged is the most flattering term I can come up with ;-)
Haha I just read through that thread. (Well, actually I scanned for mentions of myself. The haters give me strength....)
I don't think they are all the same person. And I have a suspicion I know who (L)ittle (P)een 9 is...
People are posting on other forums??? ALERT THE POLICE! SHUT...DOWN... EVERYTHING.
Someone sent me a note that they were big fans of mine over there, I had to go see!
Turns out they're big fans of you too!
You're Famous..;-)
Not KJ -160
I will take that bet. Call me to hammer out the details.Quote: RigondeauxKewlJ +160
Not KJ -160
There's a few points I want to cover on the bet.
Quote: RigondeauxKewlJ +160
Not KJ -160
If Kewlj was well liked here, perhaps one of the regulars had email conversations with him and could get an update from the real Kewlj and at least mitigate the drama on this forum where it might matter.
Just a thought.
See there, you still my gal/moderator. Feel free to slap me whenever you feel is necessary. I roll with good punches ;-)Quote: beachbumbabsMy opinion is it was not kj...barely. no proof either way.
2F don't be a PUSSYcat. You're leaving yourself with to many outs. That may be a good poker move however I don't like the fact you can easily back out. What information or thoughts do you have? spill it, don't just say random crap that leads to assumptions that are meaningless.Quote: TwoFeathersATLI am hesitant to say 'too much'.
Will wait for the end of this 'Drama series', or at least the Season Finale.
Wouldn't want to spoil anything for the viewers....
As a side note, I don't believe the big three posters there are the same person. I could believe 2 persons. If it's really just one, I cannot help but feel sorry/empathetic to their plight. Seriously deranged is the most flattering term I can come up with ;-)
I have no problem being wrong and admitting it. Do I really give a FK if I'm wong about some online speculation BS?
HELL NO!!!
As I said already, KJ is a strange guy when it comes to online if you factor in all the other forums(banned from mutiple sites) I have never meet him, and I don't know anyone that has, so it's very hard to make any real judgments.
From his posts on this site only, I would lay odds it's not him, it just doesn't fit what I have seen here.
But I have to think RS has seen his posts on multiple forums and probably knows better than me if you account for RS seeing many more posts at mutiple sites.
None the less, it looks as if whomever it is, him or not, they have been highly influenced by the "guys" over at that other site. In much of his posts, it's just a watered down version of their BS.
FWIW, at first I thought it was KJ. But then there are details between Wizard and him talking. I don't think KJ would divulge private conversations like that. But I don't know KJ so maybe he would. If Mike reads this thread I guess he could confirm the parts about those 2 talking.
You're rolling with whatever the majority thinks and leaving yourself an out. Make your last stand if you know what I mean.Quote: TwoFeathersATLSee there, you still my gal/moderator. Feel free to slap me whenever you feel is necessary. I roll with good punches ;-)
Yes KJ?
NO KJ?
Put your feathers on the line. You're down 1/2 feathers.
I still think the ban hammer got dropped on a contributor and a non-contributor still is just that.
The ban hammer is sometimes dropped on decent folks who push it too far.
If anyone wants to throw a lifeline, now might be the time......
The ship is sailing away, I'm in shark infested waters, and I swear,
I swear, all of my money is in my pocket, and I have no problem paying reasonable rewards ;-?
Quote: GWAESurely someone on here talks to KJ outside of the forum. Can we get someone to just call him and ask?
I doubt Kj is inclined to answer that question for the wov forum. I doubt the authorship mostly because of some of the rudeness and name-calling embedded, not to mention the relative illiteracy. I think it's someone grabbing statements and thoughts kj expressed elsewhere, including here, moshing them into that post with a fair amount of their own agenda inserted in to create an indictment of this site and the Wizard for their amusement.
There are also several things that didn't get said that I would have expected kj to say in a post like that, but didn't get said. I will not be providing examples.
But the basic sentiment of frustration and unfairness expressed there is, to my best understanding, still correct. And I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, if anything, lately. So I can't say it wasn't kj, and I don't plan on asking him.
KEWLJ posts a comment on this raging debate as to whether it is or isn't him,; he posted his email addy for those who want to contact him and attempt to confirm his identity.
The problem with reveling in the absurd is that there can be too much of a good thing.
This is real interesting
There are actually discussions over there concerning me
Wow, I am so flattered
Its pretty funny over there
I videotaped the Mission nugget challenge in Vegas
The timing just luckily worked out since I already had an airline ticket since I spend every Xmas in Vegas
But according to the other forum, I flew out just to film a nugget challenge. lol
Another funny one is that I am a secret Mod.
ROTFL
I got into it with 2F and got suspended but 2f served instead
Over at the other forum they said this was all a setup to take suspicion off of me being a secret mod
Too funny
Somebody over there probably got nuked here and are foaming at the mouth over there totally consumed by this forum
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou all realize you can join over there and discuss it with him, right?
I think that thread is the only active on the forum over there...I actually tried finding some decent stuff over there; hard to do. The train wreck thread is alive and well, but it isn't a conversation I care to join.
dear Axel, I already voiced my opinion. Might be right, maybe not. Not the first time for either. I cannot keep up with the posts, I might have been proven wrong long ago. So What?Quote: AxelWolfYou're rolling with whatever the majority thinks and leaving yourself an out. Make your last stand if you know what I mean.
Yes KJ?
NO KJ?
Put your feathers on the line. You're down 1/2 feathers.
<edit> Dear Axel, you can kiss my hiny ;-)
already voiced my opinion, 'not KewlJ', much earlier today.
Inside info might be involved, might not.
Did I offer to exchange kisses?
<2nd edit> you are trying to ruffle my feathers aren't you? Should I mention that you made an extremely 'in the middle' post without taking sides post, or that I went beyond the middle to say '1st guess, not KewlJ'. .?
I'm waiting for your kisses, but I'd rather trade them for something I find more valuable ;-)
Quote: terapinedSomebody over there probably got nuked here and are foaming at the mouth over there totally consumed by this forum
That's my favorite part about this whole thing.
How sad of a life must they have to stalk a message board that they've been permanently banned from, and then regurgitate every single post they disagree with to a few like-minded crybabies?
And then when other members of that forum point out how stupid they all are, they always seem to respond with "but look how many views this thread has!" as if that's a trump card or something.
I would be willing to communicate and ask him this. If others need to resolve a bet I'm sure he'd understand lol.Quote: sammydvIf Kewlj was well liked here, perhaps one of the regulars had email conversations with him and could get an update from the real Kewlj and at least mitigate the drama on this forum where it might matter.
Just a thought.
I'm a big fan of you HERE 2F =D... and no one has even point out where "there" is!Quote: TwoFeathersATLSorry,
Someone sent me a note that they were big fans of mine over there, I had to go see!
Turns out they're big fans of you too!
You're Famous..;-)
Quote: rdw4potusFunny how the only active thread over there is the one about how this site is dying.
Anyone betting which site dies first?
But I did not, hindsight is a marvelous thing.
Shows you how stupid you were the first time thru...
Quote: RonCI think that thread is the only active on the forum over there...I actually tried finding some decent stuff over there; hard to do. The train wreck thread is alive and well, but it isn't a conversation I care to join.
I was one of the original people invited to
join, till they opened it up to everybody.
There's nothing there except the WoV
thread, mostly disgruntled ex WoV members.
They mention me all the time, yawn. Like
that's never happened before. It's like
being a member here was the highlight
of some of these guys lives, and they've
never gotten over being banned. Bashing
Mike is what they live for now.
it's him posting on the other forum.
I knew that, nobody else sounds like
him.
Send him an email. Ask about his stepfather. Nevermind. I will do it myself sometime next week. I'm late now, imagine that......Quote: GWAEHe posted his email which is the same that was posted on here somewhere. I think that is pretty good evidence that it is him.
Quote: mcallister3200I don't know what's sadder, another forum that doesn't do anything but talk about this forum, or this forum talking about another forum that does nothing but talk about this forum.
Here's what's sadder
I joined and posted :-)
Quote: RonCI think that thread is the only active on the forum over there...I actually tried finding some decent stuff over there; hard to do. The train wreck thread is alive and well, but it isn't a conversation I care to join.
Actually there is a good thread Mickey started on a potential AP play. He gives Axel credit as well, but then in typical Mick fashion he goes off on a guy who was asking him questions in a drunken rage. Then he apologized to the guy in the morning. Again, this forum lost something when Mick left.
MC, I think it's sadder all they do is spend so much time bashing WOV than us talking about it. This isn't *all* we do.....but that's all they seemingly do. Every now and then there'll be a new thread by Micky or Rob Singer or some other idiot and the thread goes straight to a pissing fight. Yeah, it's entertaining to read, at least I think so. But I think it's important we, on WOV, have these kind of chats. It'll really fuel the fire over there, so on my once a week "hmm, I'm bored oh I'll check that funny forum to see what's up" I can read through several pages of Larry and Freddy (what're the odds they're the same loser?) posts.
I think I would want a little more evidence than some email. I would also want an escape clause on the bet. I haven't really thought about it, but basically If he didn't actually compose that himself, or there was some other strange circumstances involved. I would want to call NO BET.Quote: RSI think I would have laid -200 that it was KJ (although if Axel wanted a bet, I'd have asked for +500). Like EvenBob, can confirm it is KJ.
MC, I think it's sadder all they do is spend so much time bashing WOV than us talking about it. This isn't *all* we do.....but that's all they seemingly do. Every now and then there'll be a new thread by Micky or Rob Singer or some other idiot and the thread goes straight to a pissing fight. Yeah, it's entertaining to read, at least I think so. But I think it's important we, on WOV, have these kind of chats. It'll really fuel the fire over there, so on my once a week "hmm, I'm bored oh I'll check that funny forum to see what's up" I can read through several pages of Larry and Freddy (what're the odds they're the same loser?) posts.
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If KJ did actually write that and post it himself I'm kind of disappointed. It sounds as if he turned on Mike in a Z snap second.
No... it was not fair he got banned here. He should have never agreed to some truce in the first place. Perhaps he felt some pressure to do so, perhaps it was out of respect for Mike he did so? Perhaps he felt like he would get banned if he didn't agree to something? Either way, he should have just stuck to his agreement.
I'm not sure what PM information KJ divulged or what he was doing or saying behind the scenes, but it sounded serious. I don't think Mike has ever had anything bad to say about KJ, it's actually been the opposite and Mike has had nothing but good things to say about JK. It sounds as if Mike never wanted to ban him in the first place. I believe he really wanted KJ back and he was trying to do everything he could to bring him back just short of saying, FK it, I'll just let you come back.
Anyways, less time on all the forums = more time playing BJ and shirtless volleyball. Not counting the shirtless volleyball I think that's +EV FOR HIM in the long run.
That's how I knew it was a sham when they sent me that invite as well :-)Quote: EvenBobI was one of the original people invited to
join, till they opened it up to everybody.
I disregarded it as some clever ruse and forgot all about it until someone mentioned something here about it recently.
Somehow their original idea it worked, because they have some notable members who signed up.
I only made an account because I heard someone was hijacking WOV members names and posing as them.
Once I started looking around I noticed a few noteworthy people and some members I know.
I actually think they had a good idea and the forum isn't to bad, I actually like it. If it wasn't for all the hatemongers I would actually participate over there. Allowing people to insult women like that is shameful there's absolutely no reason any reputable forum should allow that.
*****Are they selling it? I'm seriously interested*****
Check it out.
Quote: AxelWolf
I actually think they had a good idea and the forum isn't to bad, I actually like it. If it wasn't for all the hatemongers
The heyday of gambling forums is long gone. They
thrived from about 2002-2010. The best people
came to realize those who really had any secrets
weren't about to part with them, so they left and
all that's left are the trolls and the haters. A few
legit stragglers here and there, but nothing like
it used to be. I have over 20,000 posts on different
gambling forums, and now they don't interest me
at all. For a few years I was really deep into it, but
I got what I needed and moved on.
Quote: terapined
Over at the other forum they said this was all a setup to take suspicion off of me being a secret mod
Too funny
Somebody over there probably got nuked here and are foaming at the mouth over there totally consumed by this forum
There was a Secret Mod Suspended at least once here, maybe more than once, but I only recall one occasion.
Quote: billryanLast I heard of kewl, he had died. Guess he got better. That was on the old blackjack forum, run by Ken Smith.
This is interesting! Billy here created a whole bunch of accounts in 2009 and a few more in 2010. Then let them simmer for 6-7 years. Since they were all created with the same IP address, which it made it easy to link them all together. Here is a list of them: betbet, billryan, bthefox, burr804, cmcart19, crapzout, dna32wr, dougalou, dpieramico, hammersmoke, HTamburin, Jeffpatrick, jumbofrank, kmsea, leef3053, moneymaker, Mudbone, poppycarl, qkm1958, rgin94134, twilighter, waynemc7, yllib4.
Nice try Billy.
Quote: WizardThis is interesting! Billy here created a whole bunch of accounts in 2009 and a few more in 2010. Then let them simmer for 6-7 years. Since they were all created with the same IP address, which it made it easy to link them all together. Here is a list of them: betbet, billryan, bthefox, burr804, cmcart19, crapzout, dna32wr, dougalou, dpieramico, hammersmoke, HTamburin, Jeffpatrick, jumbofrank, kmsea, leef3053, moneymaker, Mudbone, poppycarl, qkm1958, rgin94134, twilighter, waynemc7, yllib4.
Nice try Billy.
Gee, I think Henry might have something to say about the use of his (Very Respected) name, don't you, Mike?
Who's Henry ?? Elaborate please.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: WizardThis is interesting! Billy here created a whole bunch of accounts in 2009 and a few more in 2010. Then let them simmer for 6-7 years. Since they were all created with the same IP address, which it made it easy to link them all together. Here is a list of them: betbet, billryan, bthefox, burr804, cmcart19, crapzout, dna32wr, dougalou, dpieramico, hammersmoke, HTamburin, Jeffpatrick, jumbofrank, kmsea, leef3053, moneymaker, Mudbone, poppycarl, qkm1958, rgin94134, twilighter, waynemc7, yllib4.
Nice try Billy.
Gee, I think Henry might have something to say about the use of his (Very Respected) name, don't you, Mike?
Talk about planning for the future. If basement dwelling trolls and sock puppets put as much time and effort into something else they might actually get an upstairs room.
I didn't realize there was a hayday, looks like I missed the party yet again, first 70's disco and bell bottoms and then 2010 Internet forums.Quote: EvenBobThe heyday of gambling forums is long gone. They
thrived from about 2002-2010. The best people
came to realize those who really had any secrets
weren't about to part with them, so they left and
all that's left are the trolls and the haters. A few
legit stragglers here and there, but nothing like
it used to be. I have over 20,000 posts on different
gambling forums, and now they don't interest me
at all. For a few years I was really deep into it, but
I got what I needed and moved on.
If only I could turn back time.
Quote: IbeatyouracesHenry Tamburin. He puts out the Blackjack Insider Newsletter. As for very respected, I'm not certain anymore. As much as they shove the garbage Speed Count for more than $600, I've got to question the "respected" comment.
Well, there's that. Lol...
is someone suggesting that it is him that made all them accounts here?Quote: IbeatyouracesHenry Tamburin. He puts out the Blackjack Insider Newsletter. As for very respected, I'm not certain anymore. As much as they shove the garbage Speed Count for more than $600, I've got to question the "respected" comment.
Speed count rocks... just ask AOS.
Quote: AxelWolfis someone suggesting that it is him that made all them accounts here?
Speed count rocks... just ask AOS.
Wizard is saying it's one computer. Not who it might be. I just noticed Henry's name in the list. Doesn't mean it's him.