SURVEY
November 15th, 2015 at 3:41:33 PM
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Hello Everyone!
I spoke with the Wizard and he gave me permission to post a survey about people's gambling habits. This survey is for educational purposes only and is completely confidential! Please take 2 minutes out of your day to complete this for me.
Your participation is greatly appreciated! Have a great day!!
Raegan
I spoke with the Wizard and he gave me permission to post a survey about people's gambling habits. This survey is for educational purposes only and is completely confidential! Please take 2 minutes out of your day to complete this for me.
Your participation is greatly appreciated! Have a great day!!
Raegan
November 15th, 2015 at 3:48:14 PM
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Quote: rnelsonHello Everyone!
I spoke with the Wizard and he gave me permission to post a survey about people's gambling habits. This survey is for educational purposes only and is completely confidential! Please take 2 minutes out of your day to complete this for me.
Your participation is greatly appreciated! Have a great day!!
https://qtrial2015q4az1.az1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5oT1QG4BTgk2MKh
Raegan
Badly formed quiz. If one doesn't advise other players, then one's answers should not be forced.
If one doesn't play keno, then how can one answer about how one would play. etc. etc.
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November 15th, 2015 at 3:51:25 PM
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\Quote: rnelsonHello Everyone!
I spoke with the Wizard and he gave me permission to post a survey about people's gambling habits. This survey is for educational purposes only and is completely confidential! Please take 2 minutes out of your day to complete this for me.
Your participation is greatly appreciated! Have a great day!!
https://qtrial2015q4az1.az1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5oT1QG4BTgk2MKh
Raegan
They is nothing that says how I scored. Waste of time.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 15th, 2015 at 3:53:32 PM
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There are now two threads concerning this survey - this one, and one in General Discussion.
November 15th, 2015 at 3:54:00 PM
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Let it be known I gave permission to post that link.
At the risk of influencing people's answers, I must say I didn't care for the wording on lots of questions. Here is a good example:
How are you supposed to answer that if you think that the past outcomes make no difference and the odds of a 23 on the next game are the same as any other number? For other similar questions at least "quit playing" was an option, which I picked, although I could see my reasons being misinterpreted by the those examining the answers.
How about this one?
I interpret this question as saying the dealer flashed her hole card, revealing a total of 13. Of course I would stand on that with 15. Then I would keep playing, hoping she would flash me again.
At the risk of influencing people's answers, I must say I didn't care for the wording on lots of questions. Here is a good example:
Quote:You are sitting at a local bar playing KENO. You have bet on number 23 four times in a row and it has not hit once, would you:
1. Play 23 again
2. Play a different number
How are you supposed to answer that if you think that the past outcomes make no difference and the odds of a 23 on the next game are the same as any other number? For other similar questions at least "quit playing" was an option, which I picked, although I could see my reasons being misinterpreted by the those examining the answers.
How about this one?
Quote:Imagine playing blackjack in which the dealer has 13 and you have 15. Which would you do?
I interpret this question as saying the dealer flashed her hole card, revealing a total of 13. Of course I would stand on that with 15. Then I would keep playing, hoping she would flash me again.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 15th, 2015 at 4:05:20 PM
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Question #1 -- Many here who profitably play casino games never gamble. Many here who understand the mathematics of casino games never play. That doesn't mean their opinions about the matters described in the survey questions should not count.
Question #2 -- It doesn't make a difference. After all, it's roulette. Patterns don't matter. Either play the game or don't.
Question #3 -- See #2. Streaks don't matter. But the author gives the survey no choice to express that opinion.
I suppose the survey is about how superstitions and false beliefs affects gambling behavior, with a particular emphasis on "streaks" and "hot/cold." But, the author fails to consider those who might be answering the survey who are already well-educated to these false beliefs. He gives those respondents no reasonable choices. For this reason, the survey has a substantial built in bias.
I suggest the survey author read:
J. A. Whitson, A. D. Galinsky (2008). Lacking Control Increases Illusory Pattern Perception Science, 322 (5898), 115-117 DOI: 10.1126/science.1159845 -- available here for free:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/23297215_Lacking_Control_Increases_Illusory_Pattern_Perception
Here is an expository explanation of this research:
http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2008/12/27/lacking-control-drives-false-conclusions-conspiracy-theories/
I call "foul."
Question #2 -- It doesn't make a difference. After all, it's roulette. Patterns don't matter. Either play the game or don't.
Question #3 -- See #2. Streaks don't matter. But the author gives the survey no choice to express that opinion.
I suppose the survey is about how superstitions and false beliefs affects gambling behavior, with a particular emphasis on "streaks" and "hot/cold." But, the author fails to consider those who might be answering the survey who are already well-educated to these false beliefs. He gives those respondents no reasonable choices. For this reason, the survey has a substantial built in bias.
I suggest the survey author read:
J. A. Whitson, A. D. Galinsky (2008). Lacking Control Increases Illusory Pattern Perception Science, 322 (5898), 115-117 DOI: 10.1126/science.1159845 -- available here for free:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/23297215_Lacking_Control_Increases_Illusory_Pattern_Perception
Here is an expository explanation of this research:
http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2008/12/27/lacking-control-drives-false-conclusions-conspiracy-theories/
I call "foul."
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November 15th, 2015 at 4:14:23 PM
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Quote: teliot
Question #2 -- It doesn't make a difference. After all, it's roulette. Patterns don't matter. Either play the game or don't.
The roulette question makes no sense.
If you're a streak player, follow the
streak. If you're a fallacy player, black
is due. Either play has an equal chance
of being correct. Many of the questions
made no sense.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 15th, 2015 at 4:18:48 PM
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My apologies for some of the questions not making sense! I have gambled once in my life so unfortunately, I don't know much about it! I do really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to complete it. Maybe in the future I will learn more about gambling and will be able to form a more appropriately worded survey! :)
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
November 15th, 2015 at 4:21:52 PM
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The problem is that you are going to use this survey to state opinions/conclusions and those opinions/conclusions will be biased, if not outright wrong. It is not a question of poor wording, it is a question of sense vs. nonsense, with the present survey well-weighted towards nonsense.Quote: rnelsonMy apologies for some of the questions not making sense! I have gambled once in my life so unfortunately, I don't know much about it! I do really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to complete it. Maybe in the future I will learn more about gambling and will be able to form a more appropriately worded survey! :)
Thanks again!
In statistical testing, one often forms a null hypothesis and collects evidence to reject it. What is your null hypothesis here? If you don't make the assumption that we are all intelligent logical beings who understand gambling fallacies as your null hypothesis, then what do you have left?
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November 15th, 2015 at 4:23:45 PM
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It does allow to hit the last button even if some questions are unanswered, which is what I did. A lot of the questions felt similar to someone asking "Imagine you are playing a football game, what play to you call next run or pass."
November 15th, 2015 at 4:25:45 PM
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Quote: teliotThe problem is that you are going to use this survey to state opinions/conclusions.
How do you know this? I thought he was just practicing how to conduct an online survey
November 15th, 2015 at 4:26:56 PM
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The results of this survey will not be posted anywhere. They will be between me and my professor only.
Thanks again
Thanks again
November 15th, 2015 at 4:28:16 PM
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I just answered the "have them quit"
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
November 15th, 2015 at 4:35:36 PM
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Yes, I think that is the best choice in every question it is available. After all, who would want to play a -EV game, right?Quote: IbeatyouracesI just answered the "have them quit"
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November 15th, 2015 at 4:38:10 PM
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Quote: teliotYes, I think that is the best choice in every question it is available. After all, who would want to play a -EV game, right?
I play them. Look at my "missed four to a royal thread". Most of those are 6/5 bonus poker!
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
November 15th, 2015 at 4:39:25 PM
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I assumed that was the case, when you said it was for educational purposes. Hopefully, you are an undergraduate. Good luck.Quote: rnelsonThe results of this survey will not be posted anywhere. They will be between me and my professor only.
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November 15th, 2015 at 4:43:30 PM
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Well, there are many reasons to play an -EV game, aren't there? Playing through your hole-card exposing dealer's break time? How about generating entries for profitable drawings? Exploiting points programs? Onward. But those weren't exactly on the survey.Quote: IbeatyouracesI play them. Look at my "missed four to a royal thread". Most of those are 6/5 bonus poker!
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November 15th, 2015 at 4:46:49 PM
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Quote: teliotWell, there are many reasons to play an -EV game, aren't there? Playing through your hole-card exposing dealer's break time? How about generating entries for profitable drawings? Onward.
I haven't played a HC game in a long while and wouldn't here in town where I'm a regular. And MGM Detroit doesn't have good drawings or promos. I also don't mind spending some money on a nickel game once in a while. Not everything is about AP.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
November 15th, 2015 at 5:01:16 PM
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The survey is done wrong and is pointless.
Why not close the thread.
Why not close the thread.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 15th, 2015 at 5:10:28 PM
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Definitely an undergraduate. Trying to get this final project out of the way so I can graduate and never look back. P.s. I'm a Psychology major so like I said.... I know nothing about this.
November 15th, 2015 at 5:11:23 PM
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I started answering the questions but got frustrated and quit because none of the answers made any sense.
A falling knife has no handle.
November 15th, 2015 at 5:34:41 PM
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If you want to get an "A" on this project, read the articles I linked above. Those are surveys by psychologists about exactly the type of thing you are considering (illusory pattern perception). Good luck.Quote: rnelsonDefinitely an undergraduate. Trying to get this final project out of the way so I can graduate and never look back. P.s. I'm a Psychology major so like I said.... I know nothing about this.
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November 15th, 2015 at 5:42:38 PM
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Let me see if I understand what you are attempting to accomplish. You are a psych major undergrad working on a thesis. You construct a survey about a subject that you have no tangible knowledge of. You present the survey to a group of people that are most likely very knowledgeable in the subject your survey is about. The participants find the survey very hard to complete as it does not present realistic answers. I am confused. What is the title of the thesis, that might clear up my confusion?
November 15th, 2015 at 5:44:25 PM
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Quote: rnelsonThe results of this survey will not be posted anywhere. They will be between me and my professor only.
Thanks again
The best advice I can offer is to take on board the consensus here that that survey is a really poor piece of work.... prematurely released first draft. Sorry, but it is.
Tear it up, do some thinking and reading and then try again with a much better attempt.
Pray to <insert imaginary friend of your choosing.> that your professor never sees this attempt. We won't tell him.
I'm sorry, but it shows complete ignorance of the most basic practice in conducting surveys. It also shows you know very little about your audience here or subject matter, which is hard to forgive, given that there are thousands of thoughtful posts from a wide assortment of standpoints from many years.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
November 15th, 2015 at 5:54:15 PM
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Teliot makes some good points here. As a former graduate in psychology, I'd recommend starting over with a differently worded survey. There are a number of biases people are subject to involving the wording of questions, and even with just those here it seems like the questions are being interpreted different ways.
Your questions should sound objective, be short and not be double-barreled. You should attempt to minimize confusion. Make an effort to understand the games you ask questions about so that players will understand your questions.
I know those capstone projects and theses can be stressful, time-consuming and tedious. However, with research it's much better to be meticulous and informed rather than efficient. I worked on a thesis proposal and thesis for something like nine months and I can assure you that quality is of the utmost importance. Hope it goes well!
Your questions should sound objective, be short and not be double-barreled. You should attempt to minimize confusion. Make an effort to understand the games you ask questions about so that players will understand your questions.
I know those capstone projects and theses can be stressful, time-consuming and tedious. However, with research it's much better to be meticulous and informed rather than efficient. I worked on a thesis proposal and thesis for something like nine months and I can assure you that quality is of the utmost importance. Hope it goes well!
"Just because I'm not doing anything illegal, doesn't mean I won't have to defend myself someday." -Chip Reese
November 15th, 2015 at 6:06:51 PM
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Thanks for the advice Minty. And thanks for your kindness.
November 15th, 2015 at 6:45:31 PM
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rnelson has resigned from the forum, and discontinued his request for the survey responses.
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