Wizardofnothing
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October 5th, 2015 at 4:33:55 PM permalink
Mohegan sun has a progressive for a seven cars straight flush in pai gow
It's a five dollar bet and currently is 1.7 million
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October 8th, 2015 at 12:26:46 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Mohegan sun has a progressive for a seven cars straight flush in pai gow
It's a five dollar bet and currently is 1.7 million



Can a joker be used? Ace high or low of course? What are the other payouts that the $5 bet is eligible for?
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October 8th, 2015 at 1:17:08 PM permalink
What's the EV on this
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October 8th, 2015 at 1:28:26 PM permalink
7 card straight flush is what, 800000:1, and this payout is 340000:1... so maybe I'm just too dumb to see it.
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October 8th, 2015 at 1:32:14 PM permalink
Joker can be used
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October 8th, 2015 at 7:23:08 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

7 card straight flush is what, 800000:1, and this payout is 340000:1... so maybe I'm just too dumb to see it.



I would hope you don't always lose on hands worse than the 7 card straight flush.
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October 9th, 2015 at 5:04:07 PM permalink
No the other payouts start at. Full house Five aces and royal have separate progressives which are included as part of the 5 dollar wager-
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October 10th, 2015 at 12:24:54 PM permalink
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No the other payouts start at. Full house Five aces and royal have separate progressives which are included as part of the 5 dollar wager-



Hi, everyone. There are three progressives called Mega, Major and Minor. Here are the payouts.

Mega - 7 card straight flush - 100% of jackpot. Currently $1.7 million.

Major - 5 aces - 100% of jackpot. Currently $35,000.

Minor - Royal flush - 100% of jackpot. Currently $4,000.

Straight flush. - $500.

Four of a kind - $375.

Full house - $20.
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October 10th, 2015 at 12:31:04 PM permalink
Unless I'm wrong this is version two on the wizard of odds pay table and the wizard lists it at positive ev at 250k for 1 dollar which would equate to roughly 1.25 mill for 5. Making this a pretty large overlay- but what do I knowb
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October 10th, 2015 at 12:40:18 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Unless I'm wrong this is version two on the wizard of odds pay table and the wizard lists it at positive ev at 250k for 1 dollar which would equate to roughly 1.25 mill for 5. Making this a pretty large overlay- but what do I knowb



For this kind of large progressive I would say you have to include the tax as a factor when figuring out the EV. I pay over 40% in fed and state, so 1.7 million is 'only' 1 million for me, so it is still negative EV at that value.
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October 10th, 2015 at 12:45:50 PM permalink
Then most slot progressives on must hits would be negative ev even a must hit that was at 9999 must bit but 10k would be negative- you can go off that theory
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October 10th, 2015 at 4:40:36 PM permalink
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Then most slot progressives on must hits would be negative ev even a must hit that was at 9999 must bit but 10k would be negative- you can go off that theory



A must hit could certainly have negative EV, they do most of the time. Why WOULDN'T? you factor taxes in? What is the difference between winning $2 million and paying 50% tax vs winning $1 million tax free?
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November 2nd, 2015 at 10:35:00 AM permalink
1.9 million as of yesterday, anyone know the exact edge on this?
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