Quote: EvenBobWhen you live with a woman, everything is
about her. It's her kitchen, bedroom, living
room, etc. You're just a guest there and
you better leave it exactly as you found it
or you'll hear about it.
I know so many men that almost live in their
basements with their hobbies, just to do what
they want in their own home. And to get out
of the wife's way. To me, that isn't happiness,
it's confinement.
Hi Bob. You speak from a very deep well of wisdom, who could possibly argue? But you are speaking in generalities, even if the generalities are close to 100% correct, they remain generalities. That leaves the less than few percent 'out in the cold' or 'unspoken for'. That's OK I guess, the majority is always deemed to be 'sane'. But what of the peripheries? I think I may be a 'periphery'. I'm pretty sure that is where I belong, out along (and perhaps beyond) the accepted borders. I'm OK with that too. It's a little lonely out here if you avoid the psychopaths and other (edited)..........
But just to 'keep the conversation alive':
It's my kitchen, if she wants to eat decent food, she understands she needs to stay out of my way.
I own the basement, it's mine, she is not allowed. ( OK, Ihave to admit I seem to be losing this battle, hard when she throws the kids into the fray).
I don't think I get "out of her way' very often, but I'm prejudiced, I always give her the benefit of the doubt. Don't you do the same?
Quote: AxelWolfHopefully no man will get married thinking he will or won't be happier.
You're making a joke. That's the
only reason they get married.
That's why it's called the happiest
day of your life. After that your
first kid is the happiest. After all
that happiness has sunk in, divorce
is the only way to be happy again.
Quote: petroglyphIDK, I knew a "cutter", I think she was doing it to punish herself? I try to stay away from getting cut, unsuccessfully at times?
I think just the walking increases the blood flow and exercise will release adrenalin. Sure, there is a physical response [endorphins] to pain.
When I was in school you'd have the emo/goth kids that would cut themselves because it was "cool" not because of some deep emotional problem. But the actual cutters I think cut themselves to feel something since they feel so dead inside. They may not understand that the feeling they are receiving is endorphins being released into their system but just that it makes them feel different than how they normally feel and it becomes a habit.
Quote: rxwinefor the lawyers -- why not start writing contracts for people living together, dating?
Why do agreements generally only start at marriage? Or do they? Seems they do, mostly.
If there is one thing useful from this thread - it's noting a complaint about "expectations". Maybe you need a hard copy. You didn't get it in writing.
Goes for both sides though.
There are domestic partnership agreements that arose in response to same sex couples being not allowed to marry.
Basically, so long as the terms of the contract are legal, you can pretty much contract with anyone for anything.
Quote: rxwineVery few studies even come close to such a sample set on anything. And that would only be things gathered from a census probably. Or maybe taxes.
Further down you stated a conclusion with even worse data gathering.
Just sayin', you can diss the CDC but the alternative seems even more unsupported.
100 million people (50 million couples) is roughly 1/3 of the total population. I would hope we could calculate the number and kind of fish in the various great lakes without netting a third of them.
I would also note that people like Nate Silver get pretty good proven results (so far) with much smaller sample sets than a 1/3. There you can actually look at the result of sampling and see if it held.
Could it be that one is not necessarily causation for the other. IMO people who tend to spend their whole lives married might do fewer things that are hazardous to their health or perhaps have the mental health capacity to deal with the ups and downs of living with someone for 50 years.
Quote: mcallister3200why do divorces cost so much? Because they're worth it!
better to not get married in the first place
Quote: mcallister3200why do divorces cost so much? Because they're worth it!
You should at least give credit to the
guy who originally said it.
"Why do divorces cost so much? They're worth it."
Henny Youngman
Willie Nelson has said it also, but it
was part of Youngman's act for decades.
He sometimes said 'Jewish divorce'.
property in his family, love and happiness
had nothing to do with it. Rich people
always arranged to have their kids marry
into other rich families.
Up till the 11th century, priests in the Church
could marry. It was abolished by the pope
because married priests were leaving their
property to their families and not the Church.
Always follow the money in everything, it
never lies. Even Gay marriage is all about
money and property rights.
Quote: EvenBobYou should at least give credit to the
guy who originally said it.
"Why do divorces cost so much? They're worth it."
Henny Youngman
'.
I will next time. I had no idea where I heard it.
Quote: EvenBobMarriage was invented to keep a mans
property in his family, love and happiness
had nothing to do with it. Rich people
always arranged to have their kids marry
into other rich families.
Up till the 11th century, priests in the Church
could marry. It was abolished by the pope
because married priests were leaving their
property to their families and not the Church.
Always follow the money in everything, it
never lies. Even Gay marriage is all about
money and property rights.
Well said
Kills me every time XD
Quote: FaceThe funniest one I ever heard, I think heard it here: "I never knew how happy a man could be until I got married. Of course, by then it was too late"
There's a stupid show on TV called the
Last Man on Earth. It's not very good,
but in the pilot the guy is always horny
and wishes he had a woman. One finally
shows up after 2 years and immediately
tries to change everything about him
and the way he lives. In just one day
he's already avoiding her. Watch what
you wish for..
Quote: aceofspadesRussian women bemoan the lack of men -- they wonder why men would rather drink and watch tv then spend their time "amusing" them
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Okey dokey. If I be single once again I go to mother Russia, I help mother Russia. Is duty to homeland. I serve mother Russia with great joys!
Quote: aceofspadesRussian women bemoan the lack of men -- they wonder why men would rather drink and watch tv then spend their time "amusing" them
From what I've heard, Russian women
are mean and nasty, at best. Russian
men know this and have a 'why bother'
attitude. I can almost guarantee that
if the women treated the men better
they would see a huge difference in
their attitudes.
Quote: EvenBobFrom what I've heard, Russian women
are mean and nasty, at best. Russian
men know this and have a 'why bother'
attitude. I can almost guarantee that
if the women treated the men better
they would see a huge difference in
their attitudes.
Like how American women treat their men - like they are all buffoons
Quote: aceofspadesLike how American women treat their men - like they are all buffoons
That's fine, as long as it keeps
them away. If I had to be
stranded on desert island
for 2 years, would it be with
a beautiful woman? Hell no,
sounds like a nightmare in
the making. I would choose a
smart Gay guy every time. No
sexual issues and at least you'd
have good conversations.
Oh yes, welcome to the forum.
Not a misogynist at all.l love women and all that they offer in life to men. No insult taken by responses. Just asking a question I ponder daily in life.
If you look at it in a logical way, as a middle to upper income man, why would I risk my net wealth on a 50% gamble on being happy and only have a roughly 20-30% percent chance of being happy at the end? 50% of marriages end in divorce, the other 50% end in death..........