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AcesAndEights
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January 23rd, 2015 at 8:20:43 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I don't think our young people get enough credit these days, especially from the "old guard." Today's 18 year old is wiser, smarter and more responsible than their predecessors, in the humble opinion of this old guy.


1BB, would you mind elaborating on this point? There is a lot of mudslinging going on right now about Millennials and their lazi, self-entitled attitude, blah blah blah. While technically I am a Millennial, I am far removed from the age of 18. However, I'm not sure I would agree with you that today's 18 year olds are smarter and more responsible than those from previous generations.

Mostly I'm curious what has lead you to that conclusion. Not that I'm asking you to cite detailed examples, but just a few anecdotes or generalities would be fine :).
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zoobrew
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January 23rd, 2015 at 8:39:58 AM permalink
With todays internet and ability to access info almost anywhere, todays 18 year olds definitely have the "ability" to be smarter than prior generations. Whether they use this info wisely and/or responsibly is debatable and up to each individual.
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January 23rd, 2015 at 8:43:18 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

1BB, would you mind elaborating on this point? There is a lot of mudslinging going on right now about Millennials and their lazi, self-entitled attitude, blah blah blah. While technically I am a Millennial, I am far removed from the age of 18. However, I'm not sure I would agree with you that today's 18 year olds are smarter and more responsible than those from previous generations.

Mostly I'm curious what has lead you to that conclusion. Not that I'm asking you to cite detailed examples, but just a few anecdotes or generalities would be fine :).



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OzzyOsbourne
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January 23rd, 2015 at 9:20:02 AM permalink
The poll percentages add up to 108%. It used to be 109 though, so its getting closer!
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OzzyOsbourne
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January 23rd, 2015 at 9:21:17 AM permalink
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The poll percentages add up to 108%. It used to be 109 though, so its getting closer!



Alright if there a tie vote, that percentage gets counted twice. I fixed it by letting everyone know I'm a bigot.
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AcesAndEights
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:23:33 AM permalink
Quote: OzzyOsbourne

The poll percentages add up to 108%. It used to be 109 though, so its getting closer!


It's a checkbox poll, so each member can select as many options as they want.

The percentage indicates how many forum members checked that specific box. Each could be 100% if everyone checked each box.
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:30:51 AM permalink
It may be trite, but IMO it's correct. If you can die for your country, or be tried as an adult, you're old enough to do all the rest. With what they now know about brain development, it would be fine with me if the whole threshold moved to 21, but it's a question of fairness otherwise. 18 all around.
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Minty
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:33:41 AM permalink
It's great hearing everyone's opinions, and refreshing to hear about support for younger people. One of the things I really enjoy about this forum is how diverse it is in terms of age, political belief, religious affiliation and an assortment of other things. About us being more intelligent... I've heard that it isn't so much that we know more, but rather we're taught more about what we need to know for an IQ test. I'm curious as to why many casinos in Vegas have begun IDing as frequently as they have. Have there been issues with many underage gamblers in recent years or was it an arbitrary decision?
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Venthus
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:33:51 AM permalink
I don't think there should be an inherent age restriction at all. Gambling is a personal behavior and, ultimately, an individual is responsible for themselves (or any others they choose to encompass-- but their choice). This doesn't mean that can't enforce it in other ways-- truancy, curfew, casino policy, blacklist durations, etc; I'm referring to a hard enforced legal limit. And I might finally stop getting carded when I try to grab a water...

I'd say that the intelligence curve amongst the the younger generation has flattened somewhat and superficially shifted to the right-- in terms of factual knowledge, there's far more resources out there. However, they have to have the ability to utilize it, and those that use it have to be able to apply it. Before, you could be said to have a talent for mechanics if you could disassemble and reassemble an engine. Now, that talent could be synthesized by looking it up beforehand, something that would've been far more difficult before (and could be considered another skill too). People who can take the knowledge available and have the ability and drive to employ it drive up the right end of the curve.

Quote: Minty

It's great hearing everyone's opinions, and refreshing to hear about support for younger people. One of the things I really enjoy about this forum is how diverse it is in terms of age, political belief, religious affiliation and an assortment of other things. About us being more intelligent... I've heard that it isn't so much that we know more, but rather we're taught more about what we need to know for an IQ test. I'm curious as to why many casinos in Vegas have begun IDing as frequently as they have. Have there been issues with many underage gamblers in recent years or was it an arbitrary decision?



This came up in a recent discussion I had with a dealer regarding an expired driver's license. I've been under the impression an expired driver's license is valid ID, but not for the purposes of driving. She said, at CET at least, it's unacceptable, and they've been cracking down on it since there were about a dozen incidents last year that they caught. The casino, dealer, and floor manager (?) all get fined, so the staff also have incentive to check. (The numbers mentioned were 1000$ and 500$, though a 1k fine to the casino seems a bit low.)
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January 23rd, 2015 at 10:38:28 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

It's great hearing everyone's opinions, and refreshing to hear about support for younger people. One of the things I really enjoy about this forum is how diverse it is in terms of age, political belief, religious affiliation and an assortment of other things. About us being more intelligent... I've heard that it isn't so much that we know more, but rather we're taught more about what we need to know for an IQ test. I'm curious as to why many casinos in Vegas have begun IDing as frequently as they have. Have there been issues with many underage gamblers in recent years or was it an arbitrary decision?



Harrah's was more aggressive about this (checking ID's) last week than any time I've ever seen. I asked, and they said an underage person stopped to watch a game at one of their properties recently. For about 2 minutes. Didn't try to play. Just watched. The fine was $70,000.
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