Vegas Rover Deals Card

Quote: ohiovegasguy

This is a typical post by the competitors or trolls. We have been attacked since June. They have called partners and been unsuccessful. We actually have a case filed with the FBI since August and Nevada Gaming is aware. The attackers were demanding $3,000 cash wired via Western Union to the UK. They have a couple side kicks also working for them in the United States hiding behind fake profiles.

Brad can you admit that everything I said is true and let people decide for themselves if they still want the card? Thanks in advance for being honest for once.

Vegas Rover takes the security of its members with the utmost priority. We implement some of the strongest security precautions in the industry and we do not store any of our members CC information. We use stripe as our payment processor so as no sensitive data hits our servers. We are fully PCI Compliant. Our hardware is located at the Switch Super Nap in Las Vegas with an incredibly high level of security. We constantly run malware and virus scans of our stack and employ 3rd party penetration testing on a regular basis.

Quote: ohiovegasguy

Yes that is me. I was young and dumb and made a mistake, I did a crime and I did the time and spent the last 14 years out of trouble and building a life. John Moura is the CEO of Vegas Rover. I have zero ownership in the company. I work as a marketing coordinator for the company.

Thanks for the honesty. I'm not sure that having committed a crime is disqualifying but it will say that i am a bit nervous. I look forward to getting my card without any issues.

Brad what about spending money that was gained from your rockethub campaign to build your business being used to fund your extended holiday in Vegas including months of hotel rooms, eating out at hotels nightly, rental cars etc.? Can you also explain that in public since prior to this company you have been unemployed for years so you had no other money to live like a rock star in vegas.

Quote: ohiovegasguy

AxelWolf,

I am the Co-Founder of Vegas Rover. We have thousands of members using their cards daily. We held a large meet in Vegas this past October. Members redeemed rewards in large groups. Feel free to check out the Vegas Rover Facebook page. You can chat with current members and check out pictures. Vegas Rover has some of the most passionate members from all over the world. https://www.facebook.com/VegasRover

Brad here you say you are the co-founder now you in a few comments have demoted yourself to marketing coordinator? please explain?

Quote: ohiovegasguy

Yes that is me. I was young and dumb and made a mistake, I did a crime and I did the time and spent the last 14 years out of trouble and building a life. John Moura is the CEO of Vegas Rover. I have zero ownership in the company. I work as a marketing coordinator for the company.

Also since you say all your "mistakes" are in the past what about the scam you tried to pull on border grill where you and 20 people ate their hated it and then tried to get everyones money refunded to you and once border grill agreed to give everyone gift cards they sent them to you and you had no intention of giving the gift cards to the people that deserved them. Once Border Grill got word of this they cancelled all of your cards and you went on a smear campaign to try and destroy them with lots of lies. I cant find the info on google I guess you have lots of time to scrub all the negative stuff you have posted from google but I will find it.

Also what about the slot play scam you tried to pull on Harrah's? That was interested you actually thought people were going to go along with that madness that was only 2 years ago.

What life have you built over the last 14 years you control your group like Nazi Germany anyone being negative or having a question that you cant or refuse to answer gets banned from your group immediately. I guess its your group so you can do what you want but seems a bit much when people are willing to give you money and you treat them like trash.

Are you sure you learned your lesson? Honestly

Hi Bigfoot, rest assured your customised card will ship out on Monday. I apologize about the troll here in the forum. Whenever you start a business that is founded from social media, you're bound to make a few enemies. The nature of the beast is that people like "heretobustfraud", who are part of a particular degenerate group of friends, have nothing better in their lives, but to harass others. Like Brad mentioned, a group of people are still being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for extortion attempts. I'm willing to gamble that "heretobustfraud" is part of that extortionist ring. I will not however feed the trolls like some may choose to do so here. Some people are unfortunately jealous at the fact of others success and consider anyone starting a business in Vegas to be ritsy or extravagant or a vacation... however nothing can be further from the truth... Unless you consider a 9.99 Silver Sevens prime rib special or a 5.99 cannery buffet as LUXURY, LIVING IT UP!!!! Yes when we started, our pricing was at $50 for the basic, but we have made adjustments to the program/pricing, just like every other business, to stay competitive. We had this week long $10 promotion to signup record numbers this week in preparation for new partners coming in January. It's also part of marketing, the more cards in peoples hands, the more word of mouth, the more future members who come on board... Simple marketing, simple business, nothing sinister. Our basic pricing will return to 29.95 on Monday for a 1 year Basic Membership

When Rover started, I moved west. The parent company of Vegas Rover is located in Denver, and as such the offices for Rover are in Denver as well. Rover is only part of a much larger endeavor. As things expand, you will see a satellite office open in Vegas, as well as several other markets. Denver has a phenomenal airport which is centrally located to almost anywhere in the country. It's a short flight to most of the major markets we will be involved with. Here is a great article with additional reasons I chose Denver to be the headquarters. http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/3725-best-place-growing-business.html
We have incredible office space with Shift that allow us to grow in space as needed. It has both private, semi-private and co-working spaces and I suggest anyone in the Denver area looking for a great space to start a tech related business, give Shift a look and let them now Vegas Rover sent you.

I will leave you with this though, my record is spotless. I've committed no crimes. I started Vegas Rover with the one goal of changing the Vegas travel experience forever. The reason we don't have deals with MGM is simple, we don't get a long with the people at MyVegas/Play Studios and MGM has over a 13 million dollar stake in MyVegas. Some of the people involved in the extortion attempt are directly affiliated/endorsed with/by PlayStudios/MyVegas.

But I digress, we have some great new casino partners coming in 2015, so whether you decide to become a member now, or after more great partners come on; the decision is yours. If you have any questions about our program, feel free to go over to the Vegas Rover site and use the sales support button on the bottom right of the site during reasonable business hours, or you can drop us a line from that tool and I can respond back via email.

Warm Regards,

John Moura
CEO
Vegas Rover Ltd

https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=39280138

p.s. Don't Feed The Trolls

Don't you have anything better to do? Did you know I too have a criminal record, from 15 yers ago. Does it make me a bad person? My criminal record is 5x longer than what you've posted about a person that works for this company.., and guess what.I now have a different life with 3 business ventures, all successful, Does it mean I'm a scammer too? Hell, my kid asked me to get her white out, I must be a rasist at the same time. You don't know the circumstances, you are an internet troll who has nothing better to do than slander someone else. Did you not realize that some of the things you are doing and saying could be considered breaking the law...making yourself a criminal....Why should I trust what you are saying?

Quote: VRJOHN

Hi Bigfoot, rest assured your customised card will ship out on Monday. I apologize about the troll here in the forum. Whenever you start a business that is founded from social media, you're bound to make a few enemies. The nature of the beast is that people like "heretobustfraud", who are part of a particular degenerate group of friends, have nothing better in their lives, but to harass others. Like Brad mentioned, a group of people are still being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for extortion attempts. I'm willing to gamble that "heretobustfraud" is part of that extortionist ring. I will not however feed the trolls like some may choose to do so here. Some people are unfortunately jealous at the fact of others success and consider anyone starting a business in Vegas to be ritsy or extravagant or a vacation... however nothing can be further from the truth... Unless you consider a 9.99 Silver Sevens prime rib special or a 5.99 cannery buffet as LUXURY, LIVING IT UP!!!! Yes when we started, our pricing was at $50 for the basic, but we have made adjustments to the program/pricing, just like every other business, to stay competitive. We had this week long $10 promotion to signup record numbers this week in preparation for new partners coming in January. It's also part of marketing, the more cards in peoples hands, the more word of mouth, the more future members who come on board... Simple marketing, simple business, nothing sinister. Our basic pricing will return to 29.95 on Monday for a 1 year Basic Membership

When Rover started, I moved west. The parent company of Vegas Rover is located in Denver, and as such the offices for Rover are in Denver as well. Rover is only part of a much larger endeavor. As things expand, you will see a satellite office open in Vegas, as well as several other markets. Denver has a phenomenal airport which is centrally located to almost anywhere in the country. It's a short flight to most of the major markets we will be involved with. Here is a great article with additional reasons I chose Denver to be the headquarters. http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/3725-best-place-growing-business.html
We have incredible office space with Shift that allow us to grow in space as needed. It has both private, semi-private and co-working spaces and I suggest anyone in the Denver area looking for a great space to start a tech related business, give Shift a look and let them now Vegas Rover sent you.

I will leave you with this though, my record is spotless. I've committed no crimes. I started Vegas Rover with the one goal of changing the Vegas travel experience forever. The reason we don't have deals with MGM is simple, we don't get a long with the people at MyVegas/Play Studios and MGM has over a 13 million dollar stake in MyVegas. Some of the people involved in the extortion attempt are directly affiliated/endorsed with/by PlayStudios/MyVegas.

But I digress, we have some great new casino partners coming in 2015, so whether you decide to become a member now, or after more great partners come on; the decision is yours. If you have any questions about our program, feel free to go over to the Vegas Rover site and use the sales support button on the bottom right of the site during reasonable business hours, or you can drop us a line from that tool and I can respond back via email.

Warm Regards,

John Moura
CEO
Vegas Rover Ltd

https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=39280138

p.s. Don't Feed The Trolls

I see the big guns have shown up. The reason you have an issue with MGM/MyVegas is because Brad Baker was using their name to promote his own business ventures and profit from their copyright. He would never have had so many members in his group if it were not for Myvegas but as soon as they threatened to sue him he changed the group name to Vegas Rover and moved his members. Lets get real John please don't say we don't get along they hate Brad. They spent a lot of money building a successful game and Brad tried to ride their backs. Its a shame you didn't explain that as I thought you were more ethical than Brad Baker.

As far any affiliation I have to them that is simply not true and I have no idea what this extortion he is referring to is. I want nothing but to get the truth out and people can decide for themselves if they still want to spend the $10 for a card.

Quote: kipfer

Don't you have anything better to do? Did you know I too have a criminal record, from 15 yers ago. Does it make me a bad person? My criminal record is 5x longer than what you've posted about the people that work for this company, and guess what.I now have a different life with 3 business ventures, all successful, Does it mean I'm a scammer too? Hell, my kid asked me to get her white out, I must be a rasist at the same time. You don't know the circumstances, you are an internet troll who has nothing better to do than slander someone else. Did you not realize that some of the things you are doing and saying could be considered breaking the law...making yourself a criminal....Why should I trust what you are saying?

You don't have to trust me. That's fine but what I am saying is true I have all the proof this is just a tiny bit of the whole story. Let's just say Brad has been up to no good for a long time. If what has been said is criminal then lock me up. I just hope that people are careful who they deal with.

BTW Kipfer aka Brad Baker you just made this account and have only posted in this thread. Lets get real that was easy to figure out.

Making accusations makes about someone who works for a company is like yelling at the counter girl at the coffee shop because her coffee shop does not rotate your tires. You say you want nothing but the truth, what truth is it you seek? I believe your questions were answered, why are you still here? I'm here because I didn't know the owners of this company, I still barely do, but I saw their idea and liked it, I kicked in for the crowd funding, yep even if they used this money to get a footprint in Vegas, and yep they probably did buy meals with this money...I hope so we all have to eat. They are running a business, are they not allowed to take their money and spend it however they wish? They had a vision and acted on it. I got my card in before my 2nd trip to Vegas last year. I'll be happy to tell you, my card has since paid for itself 15x over no question...So now.....Do I really not want to ride the bus because the person who washes the window has a record? I could care less, we've all got protection on our credit cards if it's something you are that worried about. You say you are here to get the truth....You're here to be nothing more than a troll. Since we're asking for the truth....Who are you and what is this truth you speak of such a concern? I'm honestly curious as to why I would not want to save hundreds if not thousands of dollars......

nope name is Chris Kipfer, I'm from Canada....Eh lol...I actually Met Brad on my 2nd trip to Vegas. Do I care if he has a record???? Hell no, Do I care the company he works for just saved me close to 500.00.......HELL YES!

This thread is just weird.

Quote: kipfer

Making accusations makes about someone who works for a company is like yelling at the counter girl at the coffee shop because her coffee shop does not rotate your tires. You say you want nothing but the truth, what truth is it you seek? I believe your questions were answered, why are you still here? I'm here because I didn't know the owners of this company, I still barely do, but I saw their idea and liked it, I kicked in for the crowd funding, yep even if they used this money to get a footprint in Vegas, and yep they probably did buy meals with this money...I hope so we all have to eat. They are running a business, are they not allowed to take their money and spend it however they wish? They had a vision and acted on it. I got my card in before my 2nd trip to Vegas last year. I'll be happy to tell you, my card has since paid for itself 15x over no question...So now.....Do I really not want to ride the bus because the person who washes the window has a record? I could care less, we've all got protection on our credit cards if it's something you are that worried about. You say you are here to get the truth....You're here to be nothing more than a troll. Since we're asking for the truth....Who are you and what is this truth you speak of such a concern? I'm honestly curious as to why I would not want to save hundreds if not thousands of dollars......

Post a picture of your card to prove you are not Brad Baker. Lets get real if you were around during the funding process how did you all of a sudden stumble across this thread on a website you were not a member of? Brad you and John can call me a troll all you want. I won't be offended. You stole someones identity and you think people should trust you with their names, address, and email address so you can create your own credit card accounts with someone elses info.

Typical Brad many fake accounts once he even had a conversation with himself on a thread to convince people to buy his other get rich quick scheme. It was some sort of reduced price slot play thing I can't remember but that was back in the day when he was profiting off Myvegas.

You think I have to justify anything to you...Now that is funny....My card is tucked away with my passport, but if you're in Vegas Jan 9th -12th you are more than welcome to come meet me in person for a drink and have a long inspection of it. :) I can assure you I am not brad lmao...I'm half the size and like to think i'm much better looking :) (No offence brad lol ;) )

Quote: kipfer

You think I have to justify anything to you...Now that is funny....My card is tucked away with my passport, but if you're in Vegas Jan 9th -12th you are more than welcome to come meet me in person for a drink and have a long inspection of it. :) I can assure you I am not brad lmao...I'm half the size and like to think i'm much better looking :) (No offence brad lol ;) )

Ok if you are not Brad I apologize. Sadly I won't be in Vegas those dates I will be at Disney World. Enjoy yourself in Vegas

But since you don't belive i'm not Brad....Here is a pic of me and the wife meeting him....I really still think I am better looking. What do you think?

I'll be in Disneyland from the 5th - 8th lol :)

Quote: kipfer

But since you don't belive i'm not Brad....Here is a pic of me and the wife meeting him....I really still think I am better looking. What do you think?

http://i.imgur.com/4ntIqN7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q6aEpYY.jpg

I can't speak on who looks better but he just looks like he is up to no good.

Quote: kipfer

But since you don't belive i'm not Brad....Here is a pic of me and the wife meeting him....I really still think I am better looking. What do you think?

http://i.imgur.com/4ntIqN7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q6aEpYY.jpg

I see in your second picture you were at Ellis Island. Do you think they removed their deals from the card just because of some internet trolls? Surely a business like their would fact check things and since Brad is not officially an owner of Vegas Rover(at least on paper) They shouldn't care about his past right?

While I can't speak of his past, I can hopefully speak of the Vegas Rover future, and as a proud Emerald card holder/member what every ya call it, I see a bright future. I've saved a lot more than I have spent. If someone has done something in the past that is their issue. As it seems in this instance, Brad has mentioned he had something happen in the past. The past is the past, and I can look beyond that. Some of the worlds biggest companies are headed by people with criminal records, does it mean they are bad people? I'm not sure what your personal issue is with Brad, but I can see quite clearly you have one. This has nothing to do with Vegas Rover so why attack the company? Makes no sense to me....And your comment that says it looks like he is up to no good???? Where do you get that he is up to no good when he is posing for a picture with the wife and I....Honestly...If you have an issue with Brad, I would take it up with him....you've asked who I was and I've had no problem proving it.....Now who are you and why all the bashing?

BTW Brad Baker this thread has 1200 views I guess I just gave you some free advertising. Please send me a commission check.

I was at Ellis Island, I believe IMO they removed themselves as the constant trolling phone calls were annoying. They are a small location with no staff on hand to deal with all the trolls...Remember, I have been around since the crowd funding stage. I remember what happened...I also remember how long it took the one staff member at Ellis Island to complete the offers.....Not nearly as long as some of the other places I redeemed from.

Quote: kipfer

While I can't speak of his past, I can hopefully speak of the Vegas Rover future, and as a proud Emerald card holder/member what every ya call it, I see a bright future. I've saved a lot more than I have spent. If someone has done something in the past that is their issue. As it seems in this instance, Brad has mentioned he had something happen in the past. The past is the past, and I can look beyond that. Some of the worlds biggest companies are headed by people with criminal records, does it mean they are bad people? I'm not sure what your personal issue is with Brad, but I can see quite clearly you have one. This has nothing to do with Vegas Rover so why attack the company? Makes no sense to me....And your comment that says it looks like he is up to no good???? Where do you get that he is up to no good when he is posing for a picture with the wife and I....Honestly...If you have an issue with Brad, I would take it up with him....you've asked who I was and I've had no problem proving it.....Now who are you and why all the bashing?

I wish I could tell you who I am but Brad Baker has done some damaging things to people in the past when he found out who they were. I don't want to go down that road as well.

hmmmmm rather sketchy don't ya think? I've been honest....Brads been honest.....But the guy trashing the company won't be? Again does not make sense to me.

I can only go off my experience. I did not buy into the companies concept because Brad sold me, or John sold me, or Billy Bob sold me. I bought my Vegas Rover card for the discounts, and it's done just that.....and a whole lot more. But.... that being said, I'm off to bed, 13 More days and I'm off to Vegas and Disneyland with the family! WOOT WOOT!

Quote: kipfer

hmmmmm rather sketchy don't ya think? I've been honest....Brads been honest.....But the guy trashing the company won't be? Again does not make sense to me.

Oh I agree with you. As I said before no one has to believe me. I am just a person hidden behind a fake name on the internet. I wouldn't believe me hopefully other people see this and agree with me or give out other info that I can't seem to remember.

Quote: heretobustfraud

Brad you and John can call me a troll all you want. I won't be offended.

That's because you are a troll lol. In fact I'm willing to bet you're the person who previously worked for Vegas.com that was almost terminated for harrassing Mr. Baker... In fact, I'm willing to bet you're the guy with a criminal record for Criminal Trespassing and Disorderly Conduct and some other things regarding child support.... In fact I'm willing to bet you're the guy who continues to stalk my linked in profile and stalk Mr. Baker and obviously stalk the Vegas Rover company, because before today, you did not have an account here on this site and obviously must be using google alerts to track every new post that comes on the web about Rover...

What a sad... sad... sad man you must be heretobustfraud... Just because you're a lowlife, no life piece of scum with nothing better to do... I'll pity you... Just because you lost your sweet life and find satisfaction in trying to destroy someone else's... I'll pray for you...

I'll hold off on putting your name down here in the forum with links to your criminal record and your family's address information because I'm a nice guy.

My great Aunt, who recently passed away was a nun for over 80 years in Boston and she taught me forgiveness is key... Perhaps you should learn some forgiveness or move on... If you find your destructive urges to be overwhelming, you may want to seek counseling religious or otherwise. Many free professional help resources are available today for people in your situation. http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/finding-therapy

Regards,

John Moura
CEO
Vegas Rover Ltd

This does seem really fish now that I think about it. The sale thing makes it so people can't wait to hear any reviews or anything from any members. Why was this never advertised before?

I suppose an easy way would be to call the tropicana and see if anyone has ever heard of these cards, I assume if they are willing to match huge free play mailers, someone at the casino would know about it. I'll do some diggin!

Quote: OzzyOsbourne

Hi Ozzy, I have looked into our transaction log on stripe and the only decline I am seeing recently was for the reason code "Your card does not support this type of purchase."

The reasons for that error are as follows: https://support.stripe.com/questions/unsupported-type-of-purchase

-Some debit cards require a PIN to be entered. If your customer is trying to use one of these cards, they'll need to use another card to make the purchase.

-Some cards have restrictions on cross-border usage. If the card was issued in a country (the 'origin' field when you view the details of the payment) other than where your business is located, this might be the problem. In this case, please have your customer contact their bank to see if they have this restriction.

-Some cards (often corporate cards or FSA cards) can only be used for certain business categories, like travel or healthcare. If your customer indicates that their card might only be available for certain business categories and it should work for your business, please get in touch with us.

Quote: OzzyOsbourne

I suppose an easy way would be to call the tropicana and see if anyone has ever heard of these cards, I assume if they are willing to match huge free play mailers, someone at the casino would know about it. I'll do some diggin!

Hi Ozzy, you are welcome to contact Tropicana. We have a great relationship with them. The match offers are handled directly by the marketing department so you will need to speak with them about the match offer if you want to confirm. The match plays are done via the players club, as well as the VIP parking for black card members.

Warm Regards,

John Moura
CEO
Vegas Rover Ltd

Quote: VRJOHN

That's because you are a troll lol. In fact I'm willing to bet you're the person who previously worked for Vegas.com that was almost terminated for harrassing Mr. Baker... In fact, I'm willing to bet you're the guy with a criminal record for Criminal Trespassing and Disorderly Conduct and some other things regarding child support.... In fact I'm willing to bet you're the guy who continues to stalk my linked in profile and stalk Mr. Baker and obviously stalk the Vegas Rover company, because before today, you did not have an account here on this site and obviously must be using google alerts to track every new post that comes on the web about Rover...

What a sad... sad... sad man you must be heretobustfraud... Just because you're a lowlife, no life piece of scum with nothing better to do... I'll pity you... Just because you lost your sweet life and find satisfaction in trying to destroy someone else's... I'll pray for you...

I'll hold off on putting your name down here in the forum with links to your criminal record and your family's address information because I'm a nice guy.

My great Aunt, who recently passed away was a nun for over 80 years in Boston and she taught me forgiveness is key... Perhaps you should learn some forgiveness or move on... If you find your destructive urges to be overwhelming, you may want to seek counseling religious or otherwise. Many free professional help resources are available today for people in your situation. http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/finding-therapy

Regards,

John Moura
CEO
Vegas Rover Ltd

Not sure what you are on about. I am one of the people that bought into your game early on and have since thrown my card out. I fact checked every single thing others posted on Facebook and decided I didn't want to be part of a group that is run by Brad Baker even though he is only the marketing coordinator lol. I just don't trust him nothing against you John I am sure if you distanced yourself from him you would have thousands more card holders. Not me because I see more value in other programs I have since learned about. Best to you but hopefully you see that he is poison.

Quote: heretobustfraud

Not sure what you are on about. I am one of the people that bought into your game early on and have since thrown my card out. I fact checked every single thing others posted on Facebook and decided I didn't want to be part of a group that is run by Brad Baker even though he is only the marketing coordinator lol. I just don't trust him nothing against you John I am sure if you distanced yourself from him you would have thousands more card holders. Not me because I see more value in other programs I have since learned about. Best to you but hopefully you see that he is poison.

I know exactly who you are and you were not a member of Vegas Rover. I hope Melboune is treating you nice ;-)

Strange ain't the word for it, but damn strange turn of events in this strange thread. It's common on Facebook for people to have groups based on things they associate with. The whole Myvegas group being harassed by the company was just strange as well and I remember hearing about it. Calling someone out for this is extreme because it's commonly done and not considered wrong.

It's the Vegas Rover version of Rob Singer.

It sounded good, but lets just say their not getting my $10. I'm a gambler, not a fool that takes unneeded chances. Too much smoke here for me.

Best wishes with the card and Thanks to the guy who at least made me think about it.

Quote: Boz

It sounded good, but lets just say their not getting my $10. I'm a gambler, not a fool that takes unneeded chances. Too much smoke here for me.

Best wishes with the card and Thanks to the guy who at least made me think about it.

Completely understand Boz, the troll had a goal and they accomplished it. Didn't matter if what they said wasn't true, as long as they mixed in a little fact with a ton of fiction. What happened with Sony recently is readily available proof of how much damage can be done when people cave to pressure of cyber terrorist and extortionist. I very much consider "heretobustfraud" to be a cyber terrorist and his deeds will catch up to him sooner or later...

Vegas Rover is quite real, we're not going anywhere, and I do hope you consider our program again in the future. As we grow larger and expand, our name will become more commonplace and you will see a lot more reviews of our product come online.

I hope anyone who reads these forums and runs/owns or considers starting their own business, never has to deal with cyber terrorists and trolls like we've had too.

Warm Regards,

John Moura
CEO
Vegas Rover Ltd.

Quote: VRJOHN

Completely understand Boz, the troll had a goal and they accomplished it. Didn't matter if what they said wasn't true, as long as they mixed in a little fact with a ton of fiction. What happened with Sony recently is readily available proof of how much damage can be done when people cave to pressure of cyber terrorist and extortionist. I very much consider "heretobustfraud" to be a cyber terrorist and his deeds will catch up to him sooner or later...

Vegas Rover is quite real, we're not going anywhere, and I do hope you consider our program again in the future. As we grow larger and expand, our name will become more commonplace and you will see a lot more reviews of our product come online.

I hope anyone who reads these forums and runs/owns or considers starting their own business, never has to deal with cyber terrorists and trolls like we've had too.

Warm Regards,

John Moura
CEO
Vegas Rover Ltd.

Nothing I said was fiction I deal in fact only I really don't care who you think I am or where I am at that doesn't change anything but I understand the need for damage control. Just know this you can call the FBI or whoever you want I have screenshots and links to back up everything. I did not nor would I extort you or anyone nor do I care to. I just know that Brad tried to ruin people and I am just showing Brad's character so everyone can take what they want from that.

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Strange ain't the word for it, but damn strange turn of events in this strange thread. It's common on Facebook for people to have groups based on things they associate with. The whole Myvegas group being harassed by the company was just strange as well and I remember hearing about it. Calling someone out for this is extreme because it's commonly done and not considered wrong.

The group Brad started was to bring together people that wanted to play a game and loved Vegas what he did with it was wrong and he could have gotten taken to the cleaners by Myvegas. If he thought what he was doing was no big deal he would have kept on with his group but he shut it down jumped on Vegas Rover and then started banning anyone that even mentioned the game then way later he realized he wasn't gaining as many members as he hoped for and started his vegas rewards facebook page to share links to free Myvegas chips. Once again jumping on myvegas back to gain him new members even though he hates them because they tried to protect their copyright.

Quote: heretobustfraud

Nothing I said was fiction I deal in fact only I really don't care who you think I am or where I am at that doesn't change anything but I understand the need for damage control. Just know this you can call the FBI or whoever you want I have screenshots and links to back up everything. I did not nor would I extort you or anyone nor do I care to. I just know that Brad tried to ruin people and I am just showing Brad's character so everyone can take what they want from that.

Look Heretobustfraud, at some point your money is going to run out and your girlfriend Kelly isn't going to let you mooch off her anymore in Australia... You can then go crying back to the USA. I have screenshots and logs of posts that you made and they are in the possession of the FBI now, feel free to submit anything you want to them in addition. Every time you continue with harassing threads like this, it continues to build the case against you.

The fact of the matter is, you're a sick psychopath with severe delusional problems. You're obsessed with Brad and it's truly disgusting. You harassed him constantly to the point your girlfriend even told you to stop and promised you wouldn't harass Brad anymore. and Yes, I have screenshots of that as well! The reason you almost got ruined was your own fault. You worked for Vegas.com, a potential competitor and used your position as a Vegas.com employee to push your slander and harrasment.

No matter how you slice it, you're a sick twisted individual.

Oh boy, this sure went south in a hurry! Our crack team of mods must be scurrying about as we speak. This should be interesting. Makes bjmongoose look like a Boy Scout.

Quote: VRJOHN

Look Heretobustfraud, at some point your money is going to run out and your girlfriend Kelly isn't going to let you mooch off her anymore in Australia... You can then go crying back to the USA. I have screenshots and logs of posts that you made and they are in the possession of the FBI now, feel free to submit anything you want to them in addition. Every time you continue with harassing threads like this, it continues to build the case against you.

The fact of the matter is, you're a sick psychopath with severe delusional problems. You're obsessed with Brad and it's truly disgusting. You harassed him constantly to the point your girlfriend even told you to stop and promised you wouldn't harass Brad anymore. and Yes, I have screenshots of that as well! The reason you almost got ruined was your own fault. You worked for Vegas.com, a potential competitor and used your position as a Vegas.com employee to push your slander and harrasment.

No matter how you slice it, you're a sick twisted individual.

Again you are talking about the wrong person but as far as harassing I am posting on a site that is not yours or Brad's I didn't tell anyone to not buy your cardI just gave them information that is all same as when someone runs for office all the old dirt gets brought up. So they can vote for you (buy your card) or not. Makes no difference to me as other people have said they bought the card and are happy with the rewards. Glad to hear it. I wish you success. I just don't see it happening when your co-owner/co-founder/marketing coordinator even 2 years ago was trying to pull scams on casinos and shit talking the very people he claims to be helping with deals in vegas

The clock was ticking for this deal, or so I thought tomorrow at 12am meant it ended on sun @ 12am.

I told a few friends and partners about this deal. It was tempting, but I was a bit skeptical.

I discussed buying a few with my friend(hes also a member here), for myself and everyone I knew who I thought might benefit from it.

I decided to wait for a few reasons.The $10 buy it now was raising red flags, if everything was legit, I assumed they would go on sale again. I wanted to wait to see if there was any feed back from a good standing WOV member. I felt hast makes wast in this situation, we decided to hold off, if its good for $10 its good at "full price"

I didn't really see any value for the start up package anyways.

I'm going to disregard the mudslinging for now. It all seems shifty to me.

I don't care so much about you're past, but at this point my concerns are releasing my personal and CC information.

Is paypal an option? If not why?

Are money orders an option? If not why?

Prepaid gift cards? If not why?

Lets say I used a prepaid debit card and buy a few, for friends and family as gifts, do you need anything other than their first and last names? Can I just use a prepaid debit card and have friends and families rewards cards shipped to my PO. box and give it to them in person?

Perhaps If anyone from WOV wants a membership card from Rover, but they are leery about giving out personal information to your company, a good standing member could volunteer to set something up and expedite all the transactions.

Will the gold membership go on sale ever?
Do you have a discount for multiple gift purchases?

Quote: heretobustfraud

Again you are talking about the wrong person but as far as harassing I am posting on a site that is not yours or Brad's I didn't tell anyone to not buy your card I just gave them information that is all same as way someone runs for office all the old dirt gets brought up. So they can vote for you (buy your card) or not. Makes no difference to me as other people have said they bought the card and are happy with the rewards. Glad to hear it. I wish you success. I just don't see it happening when your co-owner/co-founder/marketing coordinator even 2 years ago was trying to pull scams on casinos and shit talking the very people he claims to be helping with deals in vegas

See and there you go again with the lies... heretobustfraud... Johnny Boy... Come on... the gig is up... I know who you are. The truth will set you free... Why don't you just fess up to being the sick twisted psychopath you really are. You don't wish me success, you're still the scared little boy that always goes after Brad, but doesn't have the balls to go after me. The truth of the matter is you're a failure... You always were a failure... and always will be a failure... And the only way to boost your self esteem, is to hide behind the computer in another country and play make believe. Seriously, get a life scumbag.

Quote: VRJOHN

See and there you go again with the lies... heretobustfraud... Johnny Boy... Come on... the gig is up... I know who you are. The truth will set you free... Why don't you just fess up to being the sick twisted psychopath you really are. You don't wish me success, you're still the scared little boy that always goes after Brad, but doesn't have the balls to go after me. The truth of the matter is you're a failure... You always were a failure... and always will be a failure... And the only way to boost your self esteem, is to hide behind the computer in another country and play make believe. Seriously, get a life scumbag.

You are losing your credibility. Didn't you say in your first post to not feed the trolls? Here you are stooping to my level? lol Also saying I am someone I am not you are just as bad as me because according to you I deal in fiction.

Quote: heretobustfraud

You are losing your credibility. Didn't you say in your first post to not feed the trolls? Here you are stooping to my level? lol Also saying I am someone I am not you are just as bad as me because according to you I deal in fiction.

So now you're admitting to being a troll? After you said you were not a troll earlier? Now who's losing credibility? You're collapsing under the fact that I know who you are, and that you have admitted this is all really about Brad almost ruining someone and that someone is you. You don't like the fact that the reason you were almost ruined, was because you harassed a man to the point he had to react. How about you take responsibility for your own actions and own the fact that you screwed up when you started attacking Brad way back when. Any person with a half brain can figure out that you're obviously the person I think you are by your responses.

Keep hiding behind the heretobustfraud name... You might as well bust yourself, as you're the only one committing fraud.

Quote: VRJOHN

So now you're admitting to being a troll? After you said you were not a troll earlier? Now who's losing credibility? You're collapsing under the fact that I know who you are, and that you have admitted this is all really about Brad almost ruining someone and that someone is you. You don't like the fact that the reason you were almost ruined, was because you harassed a man to the point he had to react. How about you take responsibility for your own actions and own the fact that you screwed up when you started attacking Brad way back when. Any person with a half brain can figure out that you're obviously the person I think you are by your responses.

Keep hiding behind the heretobustfraud name... You might as well bust yourself, as you're the only one committing fraud.

Not admitting to anything just using your words. Do you not remember when everything came out about Brads criminal history. I read it and followed the links like everyone else and then googled his user names like I am sure a lot of others did as well. I would have been done here hours ago had Brad not ran to get his mommy (you) and you tried to act like I was the bad person. I have done nothing but show people who brad is. End of story. again I don't know who you think I am but you are wrong I am just fed up with all the banning members for asking questions so I decided to let people know what I believe is the real deal with brad.

Quote: heretobustfraud

Not admitting to anything just using your words. Do you not remember when everything came out about Brads criminal history. I read it and followed the links like everyone else and then googled his user names like I am sure a lot of others did as well. I would have been done here hours ago had Brad not ran to get his mommy (you) and you tried to act like I was the bad person. I have done nothing but show people who brad is. End of story. again I don't know who you think I am but you are wrong I am just fed up with all the banning members for asking questions so I decided to let people know what I believe is the real deal with brad.

Again... I know who you are... Go ahead and play dumb... The fact of the matter is you came into this thread and made a bunch of statements and only had proof for one... and mind you it was one Brad had no problem admitting to... Something that happened 14 years ago. Which is to say a lot more than you're willing to do hiding behind a fake name. Now once again, how about showing factual evidence and proof of every other claim you made in this thread??? All you've done is speculate and lie.

Our deals card is real. Our partners are real. The deals are real. We've been open and running since July. We've had 5 official meets, 3 of which were in Vegas. We've had over 100 people show up at a meet before. Our real members have enjoyed the perks of the card and I sincerely hope that anyone who uses this forum is smart enough to figure out that anyone who claims to have thrown away the card after paying for it is either a complete idiot or lying altogether.

You truly need serious professional help heretobustfraud. I sincerely hope you find it.

What started as something that seemed like a benefit to members here is now long gone from that.

Mods, regardless of who is right here, do we really need new members like this? Unless of course they are willing to click on some links at the bottom of the pags :)