What's not to like about NJ?
Quote: ArtemisWhat's not to like?
1) Tax Department
NJ Department of Taxation so screws up. Why can't NJ be as good as NY? For example, NJ requires a small Corp owner to file 22 pages of income tax forms.
http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/pdf/current/cbt/cbt100s.pdf
NY only requires a small Corp owner to file 4 pages of income tax forms.
http://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/current_forms/ct/ct4.pdf
2) Toll roads
Jersey has too many toll roads.
For examples, I drove from Linwood to Margate, and I had to pay $1.50 toll on Mills Road/Margate Blvd. I also paid $1 toll when I drove from Margate to Ocean City.
3) Endless road repairs
Jersey road crews create traffic jams and slow down drivers on roadways more than that of NY or PA's.
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4. Traffic circles (many fewer now than in the past)
Quote: Artemis#5. It's another New Jersey ugly thing.
NJ requires my insurance company to "penalize" me with a 7% surcharge. $700 was deducted from my $10,000 settlement proceed. The $700 was turned over to NJ as a SALES TAX.
My car was totaled in an accident, NOT at my fault. NJ treated the transaction as if my insurance company bought my totaled car; thus, I had to pay sales tax on behalf of my insurance company.
NJ is so twisted. Why does NJ require a seller (me, a victim of car accident) to pay sales tax? A buyer (my insurance company) should pay sales tax, not me. I kid you not. If I find the settlement letter, I will post it here later.
Quote: GandlerThe Ocean City Toll is 1.50
The smell.
You leave NYC in a car to get on the NJ Turnpike, the industrial smell just hits you on the Jersey side.
The cops,
The skyway,
The accent
The Pine Barrens
The vehicle search powers of Game Wardens
The vacant look of instant dismissal in a New York girl's eyes whenever you say Jersey.
Quote: 1BBI hate to break up this love in but does anyone have anything that they like about Jersey. Perhaps post how much time you've actually spent in the state and where.
How about this?
NJ is the only casino jurisdiction in the USA where the Supreme Court has affirmed your right not to play table games like a moron
Quote: FleaStiffThe people,
That's quite a generalization.
Quote:The cops,
I agree to some extent. Especially about State Police, they think they are hot stuff. Pretty much all of my issues with police are with NJ State Police. I love my local cops though, very professional.
Quote:The skyway,
No clue what this is and I have lived in Ocean City my whole life (well since age 2 technically).
Quote:The accent
I guess this is personal taste. A lot of people probably feel the same of your accent.
Quote:The Pine Barrens
I love the Pine Barrens. Beautiful Pine Forest. One of my favorite features on NJ. And it has very unique soil, especially for stone making.
Quote:The vehicle search powers of Game Wardens
I have no issue, if they have legal cause to search then they should search. I am not an expert on Game Warden Laws, but is this different than any other state?
Quote:The vacant look of instant dismissal in a New York girl's eyes whenever you say Jersey.
I hate NYC (and North Jersey) so I don't spend anytime trying to pick up New York girls. I don't know what rational girl would care what state you live in (actually scratch that I don't know many rational girls). Still I am not a fan of NYC (I assume that is what you mean by New York?) people (generally they are liberal), so I have no desire to impress them. I don't know any New York state (outside NYC) girl who would care where you hail from.
a house in Jersey because he was stationed
in DE. Now he lives there and flies for American
out of Philly. He says there's nothing in Jersey
to like except his wife.
He owns a house in DE too, both bought before
2008 when he was single and making big bucks
as an AF pilot. After 2008 they both went down
so much in value he couldn't sell them, he rented
them and lived on the base. Bad time to own two
houses with 30 year mortgages.
edit: Actually part of Rt 1/9, not the NJ Turnpike.
Quote: Dicenor33I hate Jersey, but where else can you live?
Wow. Get out much? There are lots and lots of places with all sorts of varieties of styles of living. Small towns, rural areas, mountains, (clean) cities, university towns; all in states other than NJ. Nothing is perfect, to be sure, but there are other places to live.
Quote: Dicenor33Rockoffeller center at Christmas, beaches during summer, and people,
Three reasons NOT to live there. I hate
Xmas, beaches suck (lived in SoCal and
Hawaii) and people drive me nuts. Knock
yourself out, though, if you think the
rest of the country sucks worse than
Jersey. That's pretty funny.
Quote: 1BBI hate to break up this love in but does anyone have anything that they like about Jersey. Perhaps post how much time you've actually spent in the state and where.
It does make PA look better in comparison.
Lets see, NJ considers people too stupid make a left turn or pump your own gas. The later I was in an argument with some no-speak-english type who refused to put more than a gallon of gas in my car because the pump shut off. I said tank is empty, fill er up, He said "you might have a problem with the tank." I explain the car has 600 miles on it, tank is fine. I am not allowed, law says so.
LUMP!
North Jersey is one of the densest populations you will find in the USA that is not city-center like Manhattan. Yet how many cities can anyone name there? You tell people you live by exit, not city. Any city you can name, like Newark, you would never admit to living in.
Archie Bunker put it best when he said, "Everyone hates Jersey, but someone has gotta live there!"
Quote: sodawaterHow about this?
NJ is the only casino jurisdiction in the USA where the Supreme Court has affirmed your right not to play table games like a moron
NJ is like a house divided (i.e., DGE against Court)
"Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and a house divided against itself falls. " by JC
NJ is not doing the honorable things for its citizens. In addition to Missouri, NJ is another State that makes "law" to override its own Supreme Court's ruling.
The Court says AC casinos cannot ban "skilled players." However, the DGE sneakily writes up some special rules which allow AC casinos to ban APs indirectly.
For example, DGE allows Bortaga to restrict an AP to a max bet of $50 (while morons are allowed to bet up to $3,000 at its $25 bj table) That bet-restriction is an underhanded banning in contrary to the Court's ruling. Again, it's just another Jersey ugly thing.
Quote: coachbellyWhat's so great about pumping your own gas?
You can get it done four times faster. You don't have to feel guilty for not giving a tip. You don't have to argue with the attendant to NOT wash your windshield because you don't want all the Rain-X wiped off.
Quote: 1BBI hate to break up this love in but does anyone have anything that they like about Jersey. Perhaps post how much time you've actually spent in the state and where.
I really like the FAA WJH tech center that's adjacent to the airport in AC. It's a really interesting, even fun, place to work, with all the R&D of new products for controllers and aviation.
The airport itself is an underappreciated, underutilized gem. From the tower, (or from GoogleEarth) you can see how beautiful it is.
The people of NJ I have known have been among the most real, generous, loving anywhere. They will give you the coat off their back, and if you deserve it, the back of their hand, and in either case it will be an honest and sincere reaction.
The Jersey countryside along the Black Horse Pike back towards DC feels like a throwback to my childhood in the Midwest. Lots of trees, little towns, beautiful old houses.
The south Jersey shore (pre-Sandy, so I don't know now) was also wonderful, with lots of little fun shops, lovely seaside villages run together, not too much block-the-beach condo development (Florida has gone completely over-the-top on that).
They pump your gas. How nice is that?
Sheeeeeet. Youse want honesty or youse want entertainment? Which it be, Dude?
I ain't been to Jersey but maybe three times in my life. Even then, it was mainly to drive thru it. Ain't been dere in eons.
Cons: Corruption / organized crime;
Flat, boring terrain for the most part (The only ski hill in south Jersey was on a landfill pile of garbage with a bit of dirt on it);
Too crowded: miles and miles of people everywhere;
Pollution (like how the mob set up medical waste disposal companies and rather than incinerate the waste they dumped it offshore, only to have it wash in again).
Pros: The people in the suburbs were nice, well educated;
The Jersey shore offered a sometimes pleasant diversion;
Good state to find a decent paying job.
"Go west, young man."
Quote: FleaStiffI hate to break up this love in but does anyone have anything that they like about Jersey. Perhaps post how much time you've actually spent in the state and where.
Sure there are positives regarding Jersey.
Alcohol.
Went to college in Philadelphia in the late 1970's
Was 18, liquor age in PA, 21, liquor age NJ 18.
So we would do liquor runs to Jersey.
Leave the dorm in Phildelphia , walk to the subway, take the train to Camden, NJ load up at the liquor store, get back on the subway train back accross state lines back to the dorm :-)
Quote: beachbumbabs
They pump your gas. How nice is that?
I hated it when attendants pumped gas.
You had to wait for them to get to you,
then wait for them to get back to you.
Now it's scan the card, pump, and I'm
gone. Love that..
Yet my girlfriend in Santa Barbara would
drive to the other side of town to the only
assisted pump station in the area. Pure laziness.
Quote: EvenBobI hated it when attendants pumped gas.
You had to wait for them to get to you,
then wait for them to get back to you.
Now it's scan the card, pump, and I'm
gone. Love that..
Yet my girlfriend in Santa Barbara would
drive to the other side of town to the only
assisted pump station in the area. Pure laziness.
I don't mind pumping gas but if I still lived in the cold weather I would pay a premium for someone else to pump it.
Quote: EvenBobI hate
Xmas, beaches suck .
Some people enjoy the beach, other people enjoy posting 17,000 messages to an Internet forum full of strangers.
Something tells me the two groups are mutually exclusive
