Ibeatyouraces
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August 30th, 2014 at 11:49:20 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
AxiomOfChoice
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August 30th, 2014 at 12:10:19 PM permalink
Quote: Thomas

Well said GWAE, I believe you have hit the nail on the proverbial head with your comments.
I used to play the 10/20 limit Holden at the Commerce several years back, almost unbeatable!!
Not because of my play, but because of the players. A minimum of 6 see the flop and if any flop
any pair, or a possible pair sometimes, they are immovable to the river! Only way to beat a game
like that is show down winners! It's a showdown game with to many players going to the river.
You are right, Very tough to beat!



Please don't take this the wrong way, but, if you can't beat a game like this, you are not a very good player. Except for games where everyone folds way, way too much (which is very rare in limit) these are the most beatable games out there. You are probably too focused on how many pots you win and not how much money you win. Playing big, multi-player pots well is an important skill in limit hold'em, and, if you do it properly, you can make a lot of money in a game like that.
mickeycrimm
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August 30th, 2014 at 12:58:55 PM permalink
My buddy, Al, is a highly knowledgeable PLO player who spends the winter months playing quite a bit of 5-5 and 5-10 PLO. He says the fact that the suckers can suck out is what keeps them coming back to the game.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
mickeycrimm
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August 30th, 2014 at 1:12:04 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Please don't take this the wrong way, but, if you can't beat a game like this, you are not a very good player. Except for games where everyone folds way, way too much (which is very rare in limit) these are the most beatable games out there. You are probably too focused on how many pots you win and not how much money you win. Playing big, multi-player pots well is an important skill in limit hold'em, and, if you do it properly, you can make a lot of money in a game like that.



My favorite low limit poker game was at the Rainbow in Wendover. It was a 2-5 holdem game, 1-2 blinds, with a $50 Kill to 5-10. And on most days the game was as loose as a goose. No need to get creative in a game like that. Don't try to bluff the calling stations. You have to show down the best hand to win the pot.

The thing I loved about the game was once it went into the kill it might stay in the kill for 25 or thirty hands in a row. I was only paying $3 a lap to look at cards in what was essentially a 5-10 game.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
24Bingo
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August 30th, 2014 at 1:30:35 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Please don't take this the wrong way, but, if you can't beat a game like this, you are not a very good player. Except for games where everyone folds way, way too much (which is very rare in limit) these are the most beatable games out there. You are probably too focused on how many pots you win and not how much money you win. Playing big, multi-player pots well is an important skill in limit hold'em, and, if you do it properly, you can make a lot of money in a game like that.



Especially at the Commerce - why would I even want to take down a $40 or $60 pot on the flop when the house still take their full 5 and 1? Hell, as I recall, even a steal will cost you 1 and 1 there - that is not a place I want to play with nits, however dumb, certainly not at 10/20.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
tringlomane
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August 30th, 2014 at 1:54:31 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Please don't take this the wrong way, but, if you can't beat a game like this, you are not a very good player. Except for games where everyone folds way, way too much (which is very rare in limit) these are the most beatable games out there. You are probably too focused on how many pots you win and not how much money you win. Playing big, multi-player pots well is an important skill in limit hold'em, and, if you do it properly, you can make a lot of money in a game like that.



Yeah, everything I hear about Commerce is..."softest place on earth". St. Louis on the other hand...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr And yeah, I don't like playing limit omaha8 games unless 60%+ or more are seeing the flop.
Buzzard
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August 30th, 2014 at 3:09:11 PM permalink
" It's best not to take Buzz seriously. Ever. " Well you can take this to the bank. I just wonder about guys who say I can never win at low level limit poker, because the players are so bad ! ROFLMAO
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
AxiomOfChoice
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August 30th, 2014 at 4:50:24 PM permalink
BTW, I feel that Small Stakes Holdem by Ed Miller is an excellent book for beating these sorts of games (loose limit games). If you understand the concepts in that book you should crush these games.
Buzzard
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August 30th, 2014 at 4:56:10 PM permalink
Did same in Blackhawk. Great Book. Give credit where it is due.


Ed Miller,
Mason Malmuth,
David Sklansky
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djatc
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August 30th, 2014 at 5:07:01 PM permalink
Call me a sucker but I never understood the meaning of "kill pots" wtf does it mean?
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