PLO It's a nightmare
Quote: ThomasWell said GWAE, I believe you have hit the nail on the proverbial head with your comments.
I used to play the 10/20 limit Holden at the Commerce several years back, almost unbeatable!!
Not because of my play, but because of the players. A minimum of 6 see the flop and if any flop
any pair, or a possible pair sometimes, they are immovable to the river! Only way to beat a game
like that is show down winners! It's a showdown game with to many players going to the river.
You are right, Very tough to beat!
Please don't take this the wrong way, but, if you can't beat a game like this, you are not a very good player. Except for games where everyone folds way, way too much (which is very rare in limit) these are the most beatable games out there. You are probably too focused on how many pots you win and not how much money you win. Playing big, multi-player pots well is an important skill in limit hold'em, and, if you do it properly, you can make a lot of money in a game like that.
Quote: AxiomOfChoicePlease don't take this the wrong way, but, if you can't beat a game like this, you are not a very good player. Except for games where everyone folds way, way too much (which is very rare in limit) these are the most beatable games out there. You are probably too focused on how many pots you win and not how much money you win. Playing big, multi-player pots well is an important skill in limit hold'em, and, if you do it properly, you can make a lot of money in a game like that.
My favorite low limit poker game was at the Rainbow in Wendover. It was a 2-5 holdem game, 1-2 blinds, with a $50 Kill to 5-10. And on most days the game was as loose as a goose. No need to get creative in a game like that. Don't try to bluff the calling stations. You have to show down the best hand to win the pot.
The thing I loved about the game was once it went into the kill it might stay in the kill for 25 or thirty hands in a row. I was only paying $3 a lap to look at cards in what was essentially a 5-10 game.
Quote: AxiomOfChoicePlease don't take this the wrong way, but, if you can't beat a game like this, you are not a very good player. Except for games where everyone folds way, way too much (which is very rare in limit) these are the most beatable games out there. You are probably too focused on how many pots you win and not how much money you win. Playing big, multi-player pots well is an important skill in limit hold'em, and, if you do it properly, you can make a lot of money in a game like that.
Especially at the Commerce - why would I even want to take down a $40 or $60 pot on the flop when the house still take their full 5 and 1? Hell, as I recall, even a steal will cost you 1 and 1 there - that is not a place I want to play with nits, however dumb, certainly not at 10/20.
Quote: AxiomOfChoicePlease don't take this the wrong way, but, if you can't beat a game like this, you are not a very good player. Except for games where everyone folds way, way too much (which is very rare in limit) these are the most beatable games out there. You are probably too focused on how many pots you win and not how much money you win. Playing big, multi-player pots well is an important skill in limit hold'em, and, if you do it properly, you can make a lot of money in a game like that.
Yeah, everything I hear about Commerce is..."softest place on earth". St. Louis on the other hand...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr And yeah, I don't like playing limit omaha8 games unless 60%+ or more are seeing the flop.
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