Eaglesnest's Law
It is a virtual certainty that whenever Hitler or Nazism are mentioned on an internet discussion board, someone will INSTANTLY respond with an invocation of "Godwin's 'Law' "--which will, as Elmer Fudd would often remark about Bugs Bunny, "seem vewy cwever" to the person making said response.
(It's along the same lines of the person who is in a restaurant when a waiter drops and breaks some dishes, glasses, etc. and instantly bellows "MAZELTOV!" What a thigh-slapping, chortle-inducing, original witticism!)
Quote: EaglesnestGiven that Hitler and Nazism had such a major impact on the entire world, it is inevitable that many discussions of otherwise unrelated topics will contain a reference to, comparison to, or metaphor using Hitler/Nazism. Despite the commonplace nature of this phenomenon, and despite the fact that even remarking on it is silly, an internet meme called "Godwin's Law" has slithered onto the scene. It is hyperbole at best and rank stupidity at worst (the vast majority of discussions, on the web and off, do not ever touch on Hitler/Nazism). Because it is stupid, however, it is ubiquitous (the internet is a vast cesspool of clichéd and reflexive thinking), leading to Eaglesnest's Law:
It is a virtual certainty that whenever Hitler or Nazism are mentioned on an internet discussion board, someone will INSTANTLY respond with an invocation of "Godwin's 'Law' "--which will, as Elmer Fudd would often remark about Bugs Bunny, "seem vewy cwever" to the person making said response.
(It's along the same lines of the person who is in a restaurant when a waiter drops and breaks some dishes, glasses, etc. and instantly bellows "MAZELTOV!" What a thigh-slapping, chortle-inducing, original witticism!)
I agree, there are a lot of idiots that whenever they disagree with you will throw the Nazi slur at you. It does not happen so much on this board. But I have had one joker message me some time ago (after defending a casino in some scenerio) that I "would be the type of sheep that would support the Nazis too" or something along those lines. Oh well, there are not so politically astute people on every forum...
If somebody makes ridiculous accusations it's best just to ignore them.... People throwing out the race card and other slurs is very much the same concept... the best remedy is just to ignore those type of people, they can't win an argument so they just make extremist accusations...
Quote: onenickelmiracleCan you explain your law in English?
He's proposing a rebuttal to anytime somebody posts "you sound like a Nazi".
Too wordy and unnecessary.Quote: GandlerHe's proposing a rebuttal to anytime somebody posts "you sound like a Nazi".
History always gets repeated, can't do anything to stop it for the long run. Not by human beings anyways. Things can look fine line by line, then when you read the whole book, you see the problem.
Which of course is just what Francisco Franco would do. Is he still dead?
Last I heard his condition is grave.Quote: DrawingDeadjust what Francisco Franco would do. Is he still dead?
And why is this thread not in DT?
And warning to all. There is to be diversity....... so for every anti nazi slur there must be a pro nazi slur posted.
The thing is, although Hitler truly did shape our collective psyche, bringing him into a conversation brings everything he did into a conversation, when very, very rarely is the person you're talking to all that likely to attempt ethnic cleansing or world conquest. It's an attempt to short-circuit reason and push emotional buttons; there are few cases indeed where there's actually a coherent point being made, other than "vaguely reminiscent of Hitler if you squint, therefore bad." In those few cases, I think you'll find people don't bring up Godwin's Law.
Certainly I have never run across an "Adolph" in America.
Quote: MrVI wonder if ANYBODY has named their son "Adolph" since WWII ended?
Certainly I have never run across an "Adolph" in America.
White spremacists. I dont know but I would imagine they wouldn't have a problem with the name.
Quote: MrVI wonder if ANYBODY has named their son "Adolph" since WWII ended?
Certainly I have never run across an "Adolph" in America.
The table games director at Resorts Tunica is named "Adolph". He looks younger than 70, and he had his name and picture plastered all over billboards in Tunica promoting his "blackjack tournaments".
http://schiffer.casinocitytimes.com/article/resorts-tunica-hosts-big-money-blackjack-tournament-62939
And there is a dentist in my town named Adolph (goes by "Al"). Still working, so I can't imagine that he's older than 70.
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Quote: MrVI wonder if ANYBODY has named their son "Adolph" since WWII ended?
Certainly I have never run across an "Adolph" in America.
For some reason I am thinking that I read you are not allowed to use that name. Or maybe you are not allowed to change your last name to Hitler. I can't remember.
Some kid was named Adolph Hitler and his parents were accused of child cause for it, but it's all I remember.Quote: GWAEFor some reason I am thinking that I read you are not allowed to use that name. Or maybe you are not allowed to change your last name to Hitler. I can't remember.
Quote: onenickelmiracleSome kid was named Adolph Hitler and his parents were accused of child cause for it, but it's all I remember.
It's Adolf, not 'Adolph', why is everybody spelling
it wrong. You've never seen his name written
down before?
Sorry mein furer fuhrer.Quote: EvenBobIt's Adolf, not 'Adolph', why is everybody spelling
it wrong. You've never seen his name written
down before?
Quote: GWAEFor some reason I am thinking that I read you are not allowed to use that name. Or maybe you are not allowed to change your last name to Hitler. I can't remember.
One running gag in the 90s (?) cop drama "Hill Street Blues" was the recurring character, a comic named "Vic Hitler." He was continually a failure because of his name, though there was apparently nothing wrong with his material.
"Hitler" wasn't all that uncommon of a name in Austria back then. It meant "someone who lives near an underground river/spring." I suspect that quite a few people got legal name changes after 1945.
Quote: onenickelmiracleCan you explain your law in English?
I already did so. Would you prefer German?
Quote: EaglesnestI already did so. Would you prefer German?
Es ist so gut wie sicher, dass, wenn Hitler oder den Nationalsozialismus sind auf einem Internet-Diskussionsforum erwähnt, jemand wird sofort mit einem Aufruf von "Godwin" Gesetz "" --which wird, wie Elmer Fudd oft Bemerkung über Bugs Bunny zu reagieren ", scheinen vewy cwever ", um die Person, die die Antwort.
[as google translate would have it]
Lets pretend this is a Vegas poker room. And no you can not be the dealer or the house.Quote: odiousgambitEs ist so gut wie sicher, dass, wenn Hitler oder den Nationalsozialismus sind auf einem Internet-Diskussionsforum erwähnt, jemand wird sofort mit einem Aufruf von "Godwin" Gesetz "" --which wird, wie Elmer Fudd oft Bemerkung über Bugs Bunny zu reagieren ", scheinen vewy cwever ", um die Person, die die Antwort.
[as google translate would have it]
Quote: AxelWolfLets pretend this is a Vegas poker room.
Good, 'cuz somehow "die die Antwort" doesn't look right.
Quote: Eaglesnest"Hitler" wasn't all that uncommon of a name in Austria back then. It meant "someone who lives near an underground river/spring." I suspect that quite a few people got legal name changes after 1945.
Not really. It's a variant of the more common "Hiedler." Alois Hitler, who had been illegitimate, took on the name of his mother's eventual husband (who probably was his father anyway) in adulthood, and nineteenth-century paperwork being what it was, the spelling was corrupted. I don't know of a Hitler, spelled that way, who's not a descendant of Alois.
someone got Schooled.Quote: 24BingoNot really. It's a variant of the more common "Hiedler." Alois Hitler, who had been illegitimate, took on the name of his mother's eventual husband (who probably was his father anyway) in adulthood, and nineteenth-century paperwork being what it was, the spelling was corrupted. I don't know of a Hitler, spelled that way, who's not a descendant of Alois.
Quote: AxelWolfsomeone got Schooled.
Was it you, Axel?
Actually, "Hitler," "Heidtler," "Heidler," etc. would all be regional spelling variations of the same name. Even as late as the latter part of the 19th century, in Germany as elsewhere, spelling was not standardized. As in Smith/Schmidt/Schmitt, etc.
Actually, I do speak, read and write German fairly well--but boy, does Google Translate louse things up.
Quote: odiousgambitGood, 'cuz somehow "die die Antwort" doesn't look right.
It's actually an OK construct. The first "die" is the relative pronoun (who/that); the second is the definite article (the, feminine). "The person who has the answer" would be in German word order "the person who the answer has"--causing the odd-to-us-sounding juxtaposition of the pronoun and the article.
