Playing Rapid Roulette
June 8th, 2014 at 11:24:34 PM
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I have noticed an increasing number of people playing Rapid Roulette in a way I have not seen before.
A player has about 45 seconds to place their bets by touching the screen before the bets close
and the dealer spins the ball.
The method seems to be to place hundreds of bets, seemingly at random, and cover the entire screen
and therefore all numbers.
I saw one lady start with $1500 and take out minimum of $10,000 for 7 days on end. Once she cashed out
more than $20,000.
I imagine the player is relying on randomness to provide a return that will, over time, exceed the outlay.
Just wondering if anyone has seen this, and if so, have you seen regular success.
A player has about 45 seconds to place their bets by touching the screen before the bets close
and the dealer spins the ball.
The method seems to be to place hundreds of bets, seemingly at random, and cover the entire screen
and therefore all numbers.
I saw one lady start with $1500 and take out minimum of $10,000 for 7 days on end. Once she cashed out
more than $20,000.
I imagine the player is relying on randomness to provide a return that will, over time, exceed the outlay.
Just wondering if anyone has seen this, and if so, have you seen regular success.
June 9th, 2014 at 3:10:05 AM
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Yea I heard a roomer that they are going to be ripping these things out of casinos in a matter of days.Quote: PandoI have noticed an increasing number of people playing Rapid Roulette in a way I have not seen before.
A player has about 45 seconds to place their bets by touching the screen before the bets close
and the dealer spins the ball.
The method seems to be to place hundreds of bets, seemingly at random, and cover the entire screen
and therefore all numbers.
I saw one lady start with $1500 and take out minimum of $10,000 for 7 days on end. Once she cashed out
more than $20,000.
I imagine the player is relying on randomness to provide a return that will, over time, exceed the outlay.
Just wondering if anyone has seen this, and if so, have you seen regular success.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 9th, 2014 at 4:07:10 AM
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Randomness to win over time? I don't understand the logic.
I am a robot.
June 9th, 2014 at 7:21:59 AM
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The "logic" is, you've got the whole layout covered, with some numbers covered more heavily than others. The randomness is that you bet by just strumming your fingers all over the screen.
If you get lucky, the result is one of the numbers you bet heavy on. If that happens a lot, you're good. If not, you're gonna lose.
The thing is, with this method, you always win something. Unfortunately this is not unlike a penny slot where there are a hundred betting lines, you often win less that you risked. Occasionally the credit meter goes up, but usually, even on a win, it goes down.
In the case of the lady in the original post, she was simply on a very lucky streak.
If you get lucky, the result is one of the numbers you bet heavy on. If that happens a lot, you're good. If not, you're gonna lose.
The thing is, with this method, you always win something. Unfortunately this is not unlike a penny slot where there are a hundred betting lines, you often win less that you risked. Occasionally the credit meter goes up, but usually, even on a win, it goes down.
In the case of the lady in the original post, she was simply on a very lucky streak.
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June 9th, 2014 at 2:20:40 PM
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Thanks DJTeddyBear,
That's exactly what I thought was happening, but she had such a good run I thought maybe I missed something
She also had a wad of tickets (from previous bets). When she won more than the value of the lowest ticket she cashed out
and then inserted the lowest value ticket into the same machine.
She was well known to the staff so obviously has been doing this for some time.
That's exactly what I thought was happening, but she had such a good run I thought maybe I missed something
She also had a wad of tickets (from previous bets). When she won more than the value of the lowest ticket she cashed out
and then inserted the lowest value ticket into the same machine.
She was well known to the staff so obviously has been doing this for some time.
June 9th, 2014 at 3:16:26 PM
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No problem.
By the way, my point about penny slots is that nobody would play at one line, one cent per spin. At the very least, you'd play every line at one cent. And with the shear volume of paylines, you're gonna win somewhere, possibly on multiple lines.
That win, even if it is a net loss, feeds the emotional need to win, and keeps the gambler going.
And, like your lady that had the roulette layout covered, occasionally people do win at penny slots. Sometimes even multiple times.
By the way, my point about penny slots is that nobody would play at one line, one cent per spin. At the very least, you'd play every line at one cent. And with the shear volume of paylines, you're gonna win somewhere, possibly on multiple lines.
That win, even if it is a net loss, feeds the emotional need to win, and keeps the gambler going.
And, like your lady that had the roulette layout covered, occasionally people do win at penny slots. Sometimes even multiple times.
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June 9th, 2014 at 3:54:10 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfYea I heard a roomer that they are going to be ripping these things out of casinos in a matter of days.
Our casino is looking at putting it in, though I can't imagine where; we're pretty saturated unless we start taking out slots.
June 9th, 2014 at 4:04:45 PM
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to the OP, where was this? I have only seen Rapid Roulette at Rio and Caesars. And they took it out of the Rio for WSOP
June 9th, 2014 at 4:19:33 PM
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This was at Marina Bay Sands, Singapore
The other casino, Resort World Sentosa have it as well but
I did not play there
The other casino, Resort World Sentosa have it as well but
I did not play there
June 9th, 2014 at 4:23:26 PM
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thanks. I don't really like RR but I was curious. I do prefer organic roulette to the tables for my occasional roulette fix...
June 9th, 2014 at 4:55:20 PM
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It is my understanding that in some Asian casinos, Rapid Roulette has 250 player stations per dealer station!
Don't know which ones though...
Don't know which ones though...
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http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
June 9th, 2014 at 5:16:57 PM
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Marina Bay Sands and Resort World Sentosa have approximately 50 player stations for Rapid Roulette
and Rapid Baccarat, but they have several of each.
The value for the casino is quick turnover compared to manual tables of either game and lower staff
levels required (just a dealer and supervisor per game)
For the punter, a comfortable chair, nobody pushing and shoving to get past you to lay a bet, and
nobody (except the casino and they person sat next to you) knowing whether you win or not.
and Rapid Baccarat, but they have several of each.
The value for the casino is quick turnover compared to manual tables of either game and lower staff
levels required (just a dealer and supervisor per game)
For the punter, a comfortable chair, nobody pushing and shoving to get past you to lay a bet, and
nobody (except the casino and they person sat next to you) knowing whether you win or not.
June 9th, 2014 at 7:31:29 PM
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Quote: PandoThis was at Marina Bay Sands, Singapore
The other casino, Resort World Sentosa have it as well but
I did not play there
The HA is 2.7% and to quote Adelson in is an "unbelievable cash cow" because the can gat 60 rounds per hour instead of 8 rounds on the normal table.
June 9th, 2014 at 7:35:55 PM
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Quote: Deck007The HA is 2.7% and to quote Adelson in is an "unbelievable cash cow" because the can gat 60 rounds per hour instead of 8 rounds on the normal table.
A spin of roulette takes 7 minutes...really?
Not saying rapid roulette is a bad idea. But I don't remember real roulette being THAT slow.
Or did you mean 8 players vs 60 players at one wheel?
June 9th, 2014 at 8:05:58 PM
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You can take Adelson word for it. It is not just the spin. when you open for betting you have to wait for the last player to bet. After the spin the dealer has to collect the losing bet and pay the winning bet. Then you have the players buy-in and cash out. Not to mention some dispute. The one at RWS has 100 betting terminals.
June 9th, 2014 at 8:48:36 PM
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Yeah. It can be brutally slow.Quote: tringlomaneA spin of roulette takes 7 minutes...really?
Not saying rapid roulette is a bad idea. But I don't remember real roulette being THAT slow.
I once went bust then killed time by watching a group of partying people at roulette. They had bets all over the place, and lots of them. One dealer handling everything, including chip mucking, without a machine.
For the 4 spins I watched, that table averaged just over 8 minutes per spin.
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http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
June 9th, 2014 at 9:19:25 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearYeah. It can be brutally slow.
I once went bust then killed time by watching a group of partying people at roulette. They had bets all over the place, and lots of them. One dealer handling everything, including chip mucking, without a machine.
For the 4 spins I watched, that table averaged just over 8 minutes per spin.
From my experience, that average time per spin for a live game would be an absolute rarity. It would take a combination of huge action (chip wise, not neccasarily money), no chipping machine or extra dealer chipping, and probably a trainee to be over 8 mins per spin. I agree Roulette can be slow compared to other games when the game is big, but 8 mins per spin would be extremely slow.
June 10th, 2014 at 6:44:31 AM
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Are you sure, even with With brutal little old ladies crushing the game?Quote: hwccdealerOur casino is looking at putting it in, though I can't imagine where; we're pretty saturated unless we start taking out slots.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
