Neutrino
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March 29th, 2014 at 2:45:05 PM permalink
I've read in many places that casinos look for "splitting 10s" as an indicator of card counting. Strange that they target that one, first off it's not even the most profitable of the index plays. Secondly, from all I've seen splitting 10s seem to be a common noob mistake.

In fact as I was playing blackjack on a fake money app on my phone, I noticed the people there split 10s more than they stand them. As you know, on any fake money site the people's skill levels are horrible. It's comparable to the all in 2/7 donks on facebook poker.

So why is a classic noob move targeted as a pro move? I get the feeling if any casino starts kicking people who split 10s, they would be kicking so many megafish that their profit would drop to almost none.
rob45
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March 29th, 2014 at 2:59:14 PM permalink
Quote: Neutrino

I've read in many places that casinos look for "splitting 10s" as an indicator of card counting. Strange that they target that one, first off it's not even the most profitable of the index plays. Secondly, from all I've seen splitting 10s seem to be a common noob mistake.

So why is a classic noob move targeted as a pro move? I get the feeling if any casino starts kicking people who split 10s, they would be kicking so many megafish that their profit would drop to almost none.

The move is considered a flag used to determine if further investigation is warranted.
Yes, it is considered a "newbie" move, but it is also an "advanced" move.
FleaStiff
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March 29th, 2014 at 4:20:55 PM permalink
Quote: rob45

The move is considered a flag used to determine if further investigation is warranted.
Yes, it is considered a "newbie" move, but it is also an "advanced" move.

Which shows that just about anything can be considered a red flag. Or can be rumored to be a consideration of a red flag.
The general rule of course never split tens but in some extreme circumstances it is indeed proper and anyone who does it is going to have his play examined even if he appears to be drunk.
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March 29th, 2014 at 4:46:39 PM permalink
Quote: Neutrino

I've read in many places that casinos look for "splitting 10s" as an indicator of card counting. Strange that they target that one, first off it's not even the most profitable of the index plays. Secondly, from all I've seen splitting 10s seem to be a common noob mistake.

In fact as I was playing blackjack on a fake money app on my phone, I noticed the people there split 10s more than they stand them. As you know, on any fake money site the people's skill levels are horrible. It's comparable to the all in 2/7 donks on facebook poker.

So why is a classic noob move targeted as a pro move? I get the feeling if any casino starts kicking people who split 10s, they would be kicking so many megafish that their profit would drop to almost none.



It's a cumulative thing. If a player stands on 13 against a K, splits 10s, takes insurance every time, and won't double 11 against a 7, he's a drunk/noob. It a player hits 12 against a 3, doubles A8 against a 6, surrenders on 17 against an A, and doesn't ever split 10s, he's a basic strategy player. If a player makes all the BS plays and also sometimes-but-not-always splits 10s, it's a huge red-flag.
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March 29th, 2014 at 4:56:02 PM permalink
Quote: Neutrino

I've read in many places that casinos look for "splitting 10s" as an indicator of card counting. Strange that they target that one, first off it's not even the most profitable of the index plays. Secondly, from all I've seen splitting 10s seem to be a common noob mistake.

In fact as I was playing blackjack on a fake money app on my phone, I noticed the people there split 10s more than they stand them. As you know, on any fake money site the people's skill levels are horrible. It's comparable to the all in 2/7 donks on facebook poker.

So why is a classic noob move targeted as a pro move? I get the feeling if any casino starts kicking people who split 10s, they would be kicking so many megafish that their profit would drop to almost none.



There is a saying that only a card counter or a fool will split 10s.

The red flag is WHEN you split them, not that you actually do it. The card counter will most likely have his max bet out when splitting 10s. I do. I'll give the same advice I gave in the insurance thread. If you want to try to throw the pit off split them a couple of times when your minimum bet is out. Hopefully the pit boss will see it and think you as the fool.

Like anything else, you have to feel your way around with this.
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March 29th, 2014 at 7:49:55 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

There is a saying that only a card counter or a fool will split 10s.

The red flag is WHEN you split them, not that you actually do it. The card counter will most likely have his max bet out when splitting 10s. I do. I'll give the same advice I gave in the insurance thread. If you want to try to throw the pit off split them a couple of times when your minimum bet is out. Hopefully the pit boss will see it and think you as the fool.

Like anything else, you have to feel your way around with this.



This saying is pretty accurate. If someone is splitting tens, doubling on 6's and 12's then they are a fool and the pit doesn't care. If a player splits 10's while doubling A,8 v 6 and hitting A,7 v 9,10,A then there is a good chance they are counting if they are willing to ignore basic strategy which they've shown they know.

That being said I still consider them too valuable not to use. Combined the splitting 10's indexes are worth like 20 of the next most valuable indexes past the I18
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March 29th, 2014 at 9:08:17 PM permalink
Quote: Neutrino

I've read in many places that casinos look for "splitting 10s" as an indicator of card counting. Strange that they target that one, first off it's not even the most profitable of the index plays. Secondly, from all I've seen splitting 10s seem to be a common noob mistake.

In fact as I was playing blackjack on a fake money app on my phone, I noticed the people there split 10s more than they stand them. As you know, on any fake money site the people's skill levels are horrible. It's comparable to the all in 2/7 donks on facebook poker.

So why is a classic noob move targeted as a pro move? I get the feeling if any casino starts kicking people who split 10s, they would be kicking so many megafish that their profit would drop to almost none.



In no way, shape, or form is splitting 10s a common noob mistake. I've actually seen it done once in many tens of thousands of hands of blackjack.

You make a lot of strange posts.
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