LarryS
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January 22nd, 2014 at 12:18:56 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Navajo tribal casino's are dry unless changed recently.

I've never considered casino's trying to give me "free" alcohol as a benefit for me. I think everything they do is for them.



Of course you are correct.

If casinos didnt want to serve alcohol, or give free alcohol...all they had to do is go to a state senator and say "the free flowing drinks at the gambling tables are hindering peoples ability to make sound judgements with their money. We want to protrect people from losing money uneccessarily. So we would like to sponsor a bill that prohibits alcohol on the gambling floor....or prohibits free alcohol to be provided, or involves some sort of limits to the number of drinks allowed.

Do you think the senator wouldnt want to grandstand with the support of the casinos and push through a bill that "protects the public".

But the fact is, that casinos lose money on the free alcohol they provide....but make much more on the other end in the more money that they win.
24Bingo
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January 23rd, 2014 at 10:28:47 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

I've never considered casino's trying to give me "free" alcohol as a benefit for me. I think everything they do is for them.



You're halfway there, but you're missing a key detail:

Everything everyone does is for them.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
EvenBob
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January 24th, 2014 at 12:12:05 AM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo



You're halfway there, but you're missing a key detail:

Everything everyone does is for them.



Of course, but the things most normal people
do don't include traps to separate you from your
money. A casino will do anything to get your
last dime, to them that's the unwritten contract
you agreed to when you walked thru their front door.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
corvetteracing
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February 3rd, 2014 at 4:15:21 PM permalink
Dice have no soul, no memory but they do have ears :)
corvetteracing
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February 3rd, 2014 at 4:29:47 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

Quote: reno

In Nevada, a bet at a casino is considered a legal contract. Nevada law allows casinos to serve complimentary alcohol to players which means players may agree to the terms of a contract while inebriated, something which is frowned upon in many jurisdictions. Apparently it is illegal to allow a very drunk gambler to play... but I know from personal experience this caveat is rarely enforced.

I consistently play only one game: craps. And even when I'm drunk (yes, drunk) I'm disciplined to only wager on the pass line w/ odds and 6/8 place bets. My bankroll is determined before I set foot in the casino and my ATM card stays in the in-room safe upstairs. These craps bets are negative expectation, and they will stay negative expectation no matter how drunk I am. They don't become more negative if I become more drunk, and the bets don't swing positive expectation if I sober up. The dice have neither a memory nor a breathalyzer.




And when you are "drunk" the best thing is that when you wake up late the next morning, you will never remember if you devated from your gameplan, you will never remember if the dealer forgot to,pay you on a roll, you will never know if you forgot to put odds on and the shooter rolled the point on the very next roll. When you are drunk you are the king of the world, the perfect player. And the next morning you can pat yourself on the back on how amazing you were the night before...because afterall you dont remember any errors in judgement. This is the exact person the casino wants. This is why drinks are free.

A poster above recently posted how hard it was for him to get a buffet. Yeah no kidding. At a buffet the casino loses about 5 dollars aqusition cost value of food that you eat. They wont give up that 5 dollars easy. However they will deliver 20 dollars worth of alcohol to you until you are drunk. Hmmmm..I wonder why.

And there are legions of drunken gamblers who declare that they are the exception..that THEY are in control....and the casino doesnt make an extra penny from them by feeding them alcohol.....yeah right



A poster above recently posted how hard it was for him to get a buffet. Yeah no kidding. At a buffet the casino loses about 5 dollars aqusition cost value of food that you eat. They wont give up that 5 dollars easy. However they will deliver 20 dollars worth of alcohol to you until you are drunk. Hmmmm..I wonder why.


Excellent point !!
corvetteracing
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February 3rd, 2014 at 4:34:46 PM permalink
Quote: befamous7

Has anyone realized whether you're sober or not, no matter which casino game you're playing, you're at a disadvantage the second you put your money on the table. Everyone who plays sober can go ahead and bash all the people who like to drink while they're playing. It seems rather ironic. When someone posts a new "system" everyone jumps at the opportunity to tell them how foolish it is (yes I agree with you, no system works). If you ask me, it seems foolish to believe a drunk player is at a disadvantage playing the same casino game as a sober player. No matter the game, the house has the advantage regardless if you have different bets.

I will never argue that a drunk person can make better decisions than a sober person. I will never say casinos prefer to have sober individuals rather than drunk individuals in their casino. I will say that all the games are designed with a house edge (as I'm sure we all know). I've seen plenty of drunk people make large bets on craps then lose and I've seen plenty of drunk people walk by a roulette table and bet $100 on black or red and win. The same goes for sober gamblers.

If anyone can convince me that being sober instead of drunk will lead to a lower house edge then I will gladly say you're right and I'm wrong.



you're at a disadvantage the second you put your money on the table.

Very well put ! So true
Ibeatyouraces
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February 3rd, 2014 at 4:40:47 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
LarryS
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February 3rd, 2014 at 5:34:05 PM permalink
Quote: corvetteracing

you're at a disadvantage the second you put your money on the table.

Very well put ! So true




and the casino multiplies that disadvantage as they deliver your free drinks.....its a good business practice.

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