Mission...VEGAS!!!
Quote: Mission146I want nothing to do with The Strip.
I just LOL. You've been to Vegas exactly once. I've been
there probably 100 times since 1976. Your statement
is meaningless. I love DT far more than you do, it's
where I stay and where I play. But the Strip is the real
Vegas, you can''t dismiss it with a wave of your hand.
You'll see. If you keep going back, and you will, you'll
find the Strip to be a pleasant diversion. There's no
other place on earth like it. The Strip is Vegas. Like
it or not..
NO NO better yet, some Drinking plus No limit holdem. I'm willing to participate.Quote: rudeboyoithis gives me an idea for a challenge. drinking plus math problems.
Perhaps some drinking and VP play over and under on how many hands played before any mistakes are made.
One funny thing mission said about the 4 queens since I was giving them some action because of my staycation, "they'll give you rooms as long as you're alive" and it is very true.... But Hugo's is top tier in terms of downtown fine dining. I got a rfb comp but limited access to Hugo's.
Quote: EvenBobI just LOL. You've been to Vegas exactly once. I've been
there probably 100 times since 1976. Your statement
is meaningless. I love DT far more than you do, it's
where I stay and where I play. But the Strip is the real
Vegas, you can''t dismiss it with a wave of your hand.
You'll see. If you keep going back, and you will, you'll
find the Strip to be a pleasant diversion. There's no
other place on earth like it. The Strip is Vegas. Like
it or not..
I guess there are people who will go on a cruise for the first time, and just see the 4 walls of the casino. Or fly to england for the first time and get a hotel room 3 blocks from the casino...and only know those 3 blocks for then entire trip.
if that makes them happy.....fine.
its not like they are ignorant of the other things available for them to do and see.
I read you like a book because I figured you were thinking this, since we had not talked before you turned in that night and I missed your first call. So I left a message with your room saying I would be there, also If you check your PM, you will see I sent you a message early saying, no worries and to call me when you got back to the room. I was concerned you may panic or be thinking you needed to search for other arrangements.Quote: Mission146Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday(!)
"It Can't ALL Go Smoothly"
I get up at 6:30 (YUCK) a.m. because I have breakfast scheduled with Wizard for 8:30, my cell phone has crapped out in the middle of the night. Axel is my ride to the airport (thanks, bro!) and we also have something quick to do, which shall remain confidential.
I need a back-up plan in case I don't get ahold of Axel, Beth bids the Wizard farewell because she wanted us to go for a final walk together before I leave Vegas. I
I read you like a book because I figured you were thinking this, since we had not talked before you turned in that night and I missed your first call. So I left a message with your room saying I would be there, also If you check your PM, you will see I sent you a message early saying, no worries and to call me when you got back to the room. I was concerned you may panic or be thinking you needed to search for other arrangements.Quote: AxelWolf
Natural worrier about things remaining on schedule, you're a great reader! I saw your PM, that's initially why I called back to re-re-confirm!
Quote: AxelWolfNO NO better yet, some Drinking plus No limit holdem. I'm willing to participate.
Perhaps some drinking and VP play over and under on how many hands played before any mistakes are made.
I'd prob be willing to do some type of VP challenge but it should be an obscure game that neither of us would ever take the time to actually learn the strategy for picked by a third party on the day of the event.
Is drinking involved? If so, Remember your are much bigger then me and that would have to be taken into account. I would rather do some holdem/ Omaha hi/dealers choice. Why play something where you have -EV just to win something you may only have a coin flip on winning?Quote: rudeboyoiI'd prob be willing to do some type of VP challenge but it should be an obscure game that neither of us would ever take the time to actually learn the strategy for picked by a third party on the day of the event.
Quote: AxelWolfIs drinking involved? If so, Remember your are much bigger then me and that would have to be taken into account. I would rather do some holdem/ Omaha hi/dealers choice. Why play something where you have -EV just to win something you may only have a coin flip on winning?
yah drinking can be involved. id prob be willing to do 3 shots to 2 shots. if we did something for vp the game would be something we could bet one nickel on. like maybe record 20 hands and the holds we make each. then compare who did better afterwards. id also be willing to do some kindof drunken game triatholon like backgammon, chess, and dominoes.
Perhaps we could do a few different things. Chess, poker, pool, VP, video game, darts, trivia. and have a few different challengers. Ill even toss in a game of physical Mercy. I offered it to mission a game of mercy and he is 2 times my size, but he said we would have to wait, because he was playing slots/VP and needed to rest his hands..... LOLQuote: rudeboyoiyah drinking can be involved. id prob be willing to do 3 shots to 2 shots. if we did something for vp the game would be something we could bet one nickel on. like maybe record 20 hands and the holds we make each. then compare who did better afterwards. id also be willing to do some kindof drunken game triatholon like backgammon, chess, and dominoes.
Quote: AxelWolfPerhaps we could do a few different things. Chess, poker, pool, VP, video game, darts, trivia. and have a few different challengers. Ill even toss in a game of physical Mercy. I offered it to mission a game of mercy and he is 2 times my size, but he said we would have to wait, because he was playing slots/VP and needed to rest his hands..... LOL
I suck at pool so would have to be something like 9ball I can get lucky on. For video game we can go to insert coins downtown and compete for some high score on some old arcade game.
Well that's the point, you cant just pick and choose what your good at, or whats the challenge.You should Have many different things. Obviously if its something like, Back Gammon, where someone has never played, then it would be an unfair situation. Everyone can toss some darts at a board.Then you could add some pinball.Quote: rudeboyoiI suck at pool so would have to be something like 9ball I can get lucky on. For video game we can go to insert coins downtown and compete for some high score on some old arcade game.
If you were to play something like chess a 2 min max per move or something would have to be stipulated. Of course you would have to end with poker, since that's not a quick game.
Quote: AxelWolfWell that's the point, you cant just pick and choose what your good at, or whats the challenge.You should Have many different things. Obviously if its something like, Back Gammon, where someone has never played, then it would be an unfair situation. Everyone can toss some darts at a board.Then you could add some pinball.
If you were to play something like chess a 2 min max per move or something would have to be stipulated. Of course you would have to end with poker, since that's not a quick game.
i understand that. i didnt say id be unwilling to play pool just a game where luck is more of a factor. and for darts something like 501 would have more of a luck factor than say something like cricket. im guessing insert coins prob has some pinball machines too.
It was an enjoyable read while sitting on the couch, drinking an Irish coffee, and watching my son play his new video games on a Christmas morning.
Next time you go to Vegas, I want to hang with you, man. Thanks for posting.
You should understand that St Patrick's day is a bad day, for any AP to make plans. Also, this dose not necessarily have to be a drunken event. Certainly more fun, but I don't ever like purposely getting toasted just to compete in something, it just kind of happens.Quote: rudeboyoishoot for st patricks day for a drunken gaming decathalon? should prob start a new thread at this point.
Quote: AxelWolfYou should understand that St Patrick's day is a bad day, for any AP to make plans. Also, this dose not necessarily have to be a drunken event. Certainly more fun, but I don't ever like purposely getting toasted just to compete in something, it just kind of happens.
It doesn't have to specifically be on st Patrick's day but I think it should be around st Patrick's day for the spirit of the event. Maybe do $250 per entrant? 2nd place gets their money back. 1st place gets the rest?
And even though you don't like the strip, I think completely skipping it would have been a bit short-sighted. It's not like you're forced to gamble there. Hopefully you saw a little of it at night.
Quote: AxelWolfPerhaps we could do a few different things. Chess, poker, pool, VP, video game, darts, trivia. and have a few different challengers. Ill even toss in a game of physical Mercy. I offered it to mission a game of mercy and he is 2 times my size, but he said we would have to wait, because he was playing slots/VP and needed to rest his hands..... LOL
Slot tournament, pounding the button as fast as I could, very physically demanding...lol
Quote: KeyserSozeGreat report Mission.
It was an enjoyable read while sitting on the couch, drinking an Irish coffee, and watching my son play his new video games on a Christmas morning.
Next time you go to Vegas, I want to hang with you, man. Thanks for posting.
I'm good with that, let's throw down some drinks!!! Thanks for the compliment!
Quote: Beethoven9thMission, you're a really good writer. Have any of your writings been published?
Thank you for the compliment! I don't know if the Chapters (so far) of the The Ultimate System on WoO technically make them published or not, if not, then no...
Quote: tringlomaneGreat write up mission! Sorry your flight got canceled. That really sucks. The one time it happened to me, I was coming back from a conference with other grad students and we drove back from Philadelphia to champaign il because we could also beat the flight home. Wow that sucked. We also failed on getting refunds since we rebooked before the rental car idea.
And even though you don't like the strip, I think completely skipping it would have been a bit short-sighted. It's not like you're forced to gamble there. Hopefully you saw a little of it at night.
It's cool, it was a fun drive, bigger gamble than anything I did in Vegas, that's for sure!
No Internet access at the Hertz was the wild thing, I ask about getting out of Chicago and he hands me a map!
I didn't skip it completely, we drove through it twice, once on the way from the airport and the other time on the way to the airport!
the Nugget Incident.
Some pretty good video poker. I imagine most all the advantage slots are gone. But Axel took you into Mermiads and showed you some machines. They used to have Wild Cherry Bonus Pies and Diamond Mines. I'm wondering if they are still there and that's what Axel showed you.
So they still have that nickel Loose Deuce at the D. Did you piss on the Berlin Wall at Main Street? Did they still have the Good Times in the Fremont, California, Mainstreet? You guys should spin them off at 8X or higher. Nice little advantage play. The one drawback of downtown is the poker is much better on the strip.
Quote: Mission146I thought about going to strip clubs and was back-and-forth, Wizard gave me a great run down. How close can you hold your fingers together? That's how close I was. Beth encouraged it, but I decided not to.
SMH...
Quote: Mission146
We sat around and mused, talked girls, bets, advantage plays, strip clubs, terms and conditions, and finally, we left.
Wish I could have been there, again.
That's a crazy story on the drive home. In this day and age, it's crazy that you found a family that agreed to that situation with the rental car. It seems like these days, if you ask someone to help you out and it might slightly inconvenience them but be a huge break for you, they'll say, "nah." Good karma for switching your seats on the trip to Vegas, perhaps.
And, you should get a credit card! Even if you don't use it, just apply, put it in a drawer, and take it with you on trips for emergencies like this.
Quote: Mission146I'm still drinking, though, losing now, Beth's watching Loose Deuces, switching to Joker Poker, drinking comped drinks. Beth's playing Deuces Wild again, close to Basic Strategy, I'm impressed, but we lose and lose and lose and go up to the room...and win again...and are slightly ahead for the day, but she is done, and I am going back out!!!
Sounds like you got plenty of sex on this trip at least...
Creepy!Quote: AcesAndEights
Sounds like you got plenty of sex on this trip at least...
Quote: AxelWolfCreepy!
ohhh, I thought he was playing tournaments on vp . com
Quote: EvenBobDid you end up losing money in Vegas, besides
the Nugget Incident.
Probably $200, or so, overall. I was in the hole more than that, but got a good bit of it back Saturday and Sunday.
Quote: mickeycrimmYour trip report was a great read, Mission. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's got me missing downtown Las Vegas. I'm like you, I prefer downtown to the strip. It's not that I dislike the strip. I just like downtown more. Everything is convenient. Cheap rooms, lots of places to eat without costing an arm and a leg. I was always a sucker for the beans and cornbread at the Horseshoe. I got plenty of meal comps out of the poker rooms at the Horseshoe and Nugget.
Thanks for the compliment, Mickey! The food was pretty good everywhere, just with that one exception...except I still question whether or not any of the restaurants in Vegas technically even know what cheesecake is!
Quote:Some pretty good video poker. I imagine most all the advantage slots are gone. But Axel took you into Mermiads and showed you some machines. They used to have Wild Cherry Bonus Pies and Diamond Mines. I'm wondering if they are still there and that's what Axel showed you.
See PM.
Quote:So they still have that nickel Loose Deuce at the D. Did you piss on the Berlin Wall at Main Street? Did they still have the Good Times in the Fremont, California, Mainstreet? You guys should spin them off at 8X or higher. Nice little advantage play. The one drawback of downtown is the poker is much better on the strip.
I'm afraid I didn't take the opportunity to urinate anywhere in public, nor did I know that I was supposed to. Good Times? I don't think I remember seeing that one, but it will give me something to look forward to for next time, thanks, Mickey!
Quote: AcesAndEights[
SMH...
Wish I could have been there, again.
That's a crazy story on the drive home. In this day and age, it's crazy that you found a family that agreed to that situation with the rental car. It seems like these days, if you ask someone to help you out and it might slightly inconvenience them but be a huge break for you, they'll say, "nah." Good karma for switching your seats on the trip to Vegas, perhaps.
And, you should get a credit card! Even if you don't use it, just apply, put it in a drawer, and take it with you on trips for emergencies like this.
What is SMH?
I think it just worked out in a mutually beneficial way, that gentleman (according to his wife) could hardly see at night to begin with, and he was one of the ones who slept the mostly soundly in the car! They also needed to get back no later than 12:00 on 12/24, so I think they may have kind of realized that having me behind the wheel was the only chance they had of that happening.
In fact, while he was busy floundering about the price, and believe me, we got f***ed because of that sudden increase in demand...those college kids started talking to me about arranging something, five of us, so they were trying to decide whether to break into groups of 2 and 3 and go with two cars or whether to all get a minivan and effectively chop the cost four ways.
Anyway, I was talking to them about that, because I thought the gentleman was going to back out, and he kind of pulls on my jacket and says, "No, no, we're going, we're going!"
I have a credit card, but it's in my safety deposit box. I've never had a problem with Debit, but haven't rented a car in a couple of years, (and, technically, the insurance company rented that one) so I simply didn't think I'd need it for anything.
I'm also about to do a refinance in a few months, so my understanding is everything credit-related is supposed to stay the same.
Quote: Mission146
Sounds like you got plenty of sex on this trip at least...
Been awhile since we've not had the kids for more than one night.
Quote: Mission146Thanks for the compliment, Mickey! The food was pretty good everywhere, just with that one exception...except I still question whether or not any of the restaurants in Vegas technically even know what cheesecake!
Next trip try THE RIO BUFFET ...its OFF THE STRIP so you can go there
Its by far the best I have had in Vegas on my visits...but than again I have not done too many places.... but everybody has been pleased with the meals from RIO
Quote: rudeboyoithis gives me an idea for a challenge. drinking plus math problems.
This should be limited to arithmetic calculations. Never drink and derive!
Quote: Mission146The Main Street Station is probably the nicest casino downtown, in terms of aesthetics, very opulent, but not too much...close...vaulted ceilings, gold everything, smells good (why should it smell this nice?)
Ah yes, the magical amalgamation of cigarette smoke, body odor, and industrial-strength Renuzit. It's a rare example of 1+1+1=4.
Quote: mickeycrimmSome pretty good video poker. I imagine most all the advantage slots are gone. But Axel took you into Mermiads and showed you some machines. They used to have Wild Cherry Bonus Pies and Diamond Mines. I'm wondering if they are still there and that's what Axel showed you.
It's been a while since I walked through, but I think Mermaids (and the other place - La Bayou?) must be trying for some type of museum designation, because all their machines are antiques.
The Boyd properties have been somewhat more active in updating their inventories.
Quote: gpac1377Magnificent report Mission, thanks for posting.
Ah yes, the magical amalgamation of cigarette smoke, body odor, and industrial-strength Renuzit. It's a rare example of 1+1+1=4.
Thank you for the compliment!
Yeah, it was really strange that it should smell so good...
Mission, I'm not sure how addicted to cig's you are. So I'm not sure how hard this will be. If you find it harder then you remember. Since Mike is allowing you to use the patches, I would invest in them. They do work WELL seriously. You will not want to smoke while having one on, unless you have a hand to mouth fixation. I suggest starting at a 14mg for a few weeks, then 7mg and then 3mg, if they have 3mg.Quote: Mission146Thank you for the compliment!
Yeah, it was really strange that it should smell so good...
Good luck.
Quote: AxelWolfCreepy!
Hey man, he was the one who kept bringing it up!
Quote: Mission156Been awhile since we've not had the kids for more than one night.
Yep, that's what I suspected. Nice work making the most of it.
Quote: Misssion156What is SMH?
As IBYA clarified, SMH = shaking my head. Just saying that if I were in your shoes, with permission from my wife to visit a "Gentleman's Club," I would have gone. However, I wasn't there so I don't really know the context and I don't know your wife. It very well may have been a situation of "sure, you can go!" well knowing that you will pay for it later if you actually go. Anyway, that's all!
Quote: AxelWolfMission, I'm not sure how addicted to cig's you are. So I'm not sure how hard this will be. If you find it harder then you remember. Since Mike is allowing you to use the patches, I would invest in them. They do work WELL seriously. You will not want to smoke while having one on, unless you have a hand to mouth fixation. I suggest starting at a 14mg for a few weeks, then 7mg and then 3mg, if they have 3mg.
Good luck.
Thanks!
I do have a hand-mouth fixation, chew my fingernails constantly as it is.
Quote: Mission146I'm afraid I didn't take the opportunity to urinate anywhere in public, nor did I know that I was supposed to.!
In the mens restroom close to the buffet at Main Street Station, the wall that the urinals are on is made from a big chunk of the Berlin Wall.
Quote: AxelWolfMission, I'm not sure how addicted to cig's you are. So I'm not sure how hard this will be. If you find it harder then you remember. Since Mike is allowing you to use the patches, I would invest in them. They do work WELL seriously. You will not want to smoke while having one on, unless you have a hand to mouth fixation. I suggest starting at a 14mg for a few weeks, then 7mg and then 3mg, if they have 3mg.
Good luck.
I had to go from patches to gum. I dreamed of rainbow highway traffic while I had the patch on. It was messed up.
Quote: Mission146I do have a hand-mouth fixation, chew my fingernails constantly as it is.
The gum will be a lot better for battling this too. I actually did smokeless tobacco as a teenager. Used the gum, eventually ran out. Moved to regular gum for a bit. Then nothing at all. One of my best decisions ever, and easier than expected. Only a couple of months. I still bite my nails though... :-\
Quote: PerditionWhen you were at Mermaids did you try the Deep Fried Twinkie or Oreos? I remember there was a poster a couple months back that took a trip with his sons, did a report of day 1 and day 2 was going to be about if he got those. But he never posted again :(
No, I'm afraid that's not ever going to happen!
He cant use the gumQuote: tringlomaneI had to go from patches to gum. I dreamed of rainbow highway traffic while I had the patch on. It was messed up.
The gum will be a lot better for battling this too. I actually did smokeless tobacco as a teenager. Used the gum, eventually ran out. Moved to regular gum for a bit. Then nothing at all. One of my best decisions ever, and easier than expected. Only a couple of months. I still bite my nails though... :-\
This thread has about died down, so I wanted to go ahead and throw a few random tidbits out there that I will be adding to my blog, anyway. After the thread dies again, which probably won't be long, I will be moving all of my trip report to my blog.
RANDOM PROP BETS
1.) Will the cocktail waitress in Vintage Vegas be able to identify the Vice-President?
Wizard: No. ($1)
Mission146: Yes. ($1)
Result: Wizard +$1
2.) Can Mission146 catch more quarters off his elbow than Wizard if an initial miss by Wizard results in a loss.
Wizard: No ($1)
Mission146: Yes ($1)
Result: Wizard initial drop, Mission146 +$1
3.) Will the waiter at Hash House a Go-Go be able to identify the Vice-President?
Wizard: No ($1)
Mission146: Yes ($1)
Axelwolf: Yes ($1)
Result: No, Wizard +$2
4.) What is the waiter's age?
Wizard: 28 $1
Mission146: 28 $1
Axelwolf: 27 $1
Result: 32 Wizard and Mission146 + $0.50
5.) Did two (or more) people guess the same age for the waiter's age?
Mission146: No ($1)
Axelwolf: Yes ($1)
Result: Yes $1
6.) On Buffalo's last offensive drive of the game, will they score a touchdown that absolutely does not matter? (At this point, 1st/Goal in Red Zone)
Misson146: Yes ($1)
Wizard: No ($1)
Result: Touchdown, Mission146 +$1
7.) On San Diego State's last position, kneel or make a play on 2nd down? (They just made a play on first)
Mission146: Play ($1)
Wizard: Kneel ($1)
Result: Kneel Wizard +$1
8.) Free Roll, "Mission146, I bet $1 you won't let that dominatrix spank your ass,"-Wizard
Result: Spanked ass, Mission146 +$1
9.) (On flight to Chicago) Mission146: "I bet you $1 we're over Kansas City right now, you can have everywhere else on Earth."
Result: Win $1, got it in the form of a chip, I forget from where.
10.) Mission146 can answer correctly for perfect JoB strategy.
Mission146: Yes $1
Axelwolf: No $1
Result: Axelwolf got me with a really good exception, $1 for him.
Prop bets that didn't happen:
1.) Whether or not there is a specific drink called the, "Bradford," Mission146: Yes Wizard: No.
2.) Whether or not, "Exploitative," is a word. Mission146: Yes Wizard: No.
(Wizard explained later that my pronunciation of the word threw him off, plus he had been drinking)
