Quote: SOOPOOWas 10 degrees F last night. Power went out from 11:30-4:30. House temp only went down from 71-64. Not bad! Driving ban still in effect. My street not plowed yet. 3-3.5 feet of snow on it.
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Buffalo-area death toll grows from 4 to 7 as city digs out from blizzard
Quote: DieterQuote: billryanMy water system froze up again last night, although it appears to have only been below freezing from 5AM to 630 AM. Major pain in the ass. I guess I will have to spring for a heated hose, even though almost everyone I talk to tells me it isn't needed.
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Do you have skirting installed?
I would definitely look into heat tape with a thermostat, simply for the convenience.
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I have the hose wrapped with pipe insulation and both ends wrapped. From examing it today, I think the weak point is the water filter.
The problem with being a new RV'r is when you ask ten veterans for advice; you get 23 answers. It would make a great podcast.
Forty-six complex answers to two simple questions.
I can just shut off the water at night and run the water until the hose is empty. My 5th Wheel has the Artic Package but it doesn't keep the cold out. I can't envision trying to stay in it in a colder climate. I have an electric fireplace and a portable space heater I use more than the furnace, but half the people tell me its better to use the furnace.
By the way- mobile RV mechanics can make $85 an hour and the two services here are desperate for them. Saw an ad looking for a seasonal one- $100 an hour and a $5,000 bonus if you stay until May 1. I called about getting mine washed and detailed and was given an appointment on April 18th.
Quote: MDawgQuote: SOOPOOWas 10 degrees F last night. Power went out from 11:30-4:30. House temp only went down from 71-64. Not bad! Driving ban still in effect. My street not plowed yet. 3-3.5 feet of snow on it.
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Buffalo-area death toll grows from 4 to 7 as city digs out from blizzard
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How many lives were saved by the storm? DWIs were reduced to almost nothing. No drivebys. No school shootings, no gang wars, little crime.
Quote: billryanQuote: MDawgQuote: SOOPOOWas 10 degrees F last night. Power went out from 11:30-4:30. House temp only went down from 71-64. Not bad! Driving ban still in effect. My street not plowed yet. 3-3.5 feet of snow on it.
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Buffalo-area death toll grows from 4 to 7 as city digs out from blizzard
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How many lives were saved by the storm? DWIs were reduced to almost nothing. No drivebys. No school shootings, no gang wars, little crime.
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Exactly! When they report 7 deaths DUE TO the storm I’m always skeptical of how they determine ‘due to’. This has been going on for two days. Say Erie county has 1million people. That would be an expected 10,000 deaths per year. Or 54 over this 2 day period. I’d bet there may have been fewer than the expected 54 so far. But it is certainly possible they will find more dead in abandoned cars, CO filled houses, etc. I just don’t see how I would ever freeze to death in my house, with all my winter clothes and blankets.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterQuote: billryanMy water system froze up again last night, although it appears to have only been below freezing from 5AM to 630 AM. Major pain in the ass. I guess I will have to spring for a heated hose, even though almost everyone I talk to tells me it isn't needed.
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Do you have skirting installed?
I would definitely look into heat tape with a thermostat, simply for the convenience.
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I have the hose wrapped with pipe insulation and both ends wrapped. From examing it today, I think the weak point is the water filter.
The problem with being a new RV'r is when you ask ten veterans for advice; you get 23 answers. It would make a great podcast.
Forty-six complex answers to two simple questions.
I can just shut off the water at night and run the water until the hose is empty. My 5th Wheel has the Artic Package but it doesn't keep the cold out. I can't envision trying to stay in it in a colder climate. I have an electric fireplace and a portable space heater I use more than the furnace, but half the people tell me its better to use the furnace.
By the way- mobile RV mechanics can make $85 an hour and the two services here are desperate for them. Saw an ad looking for a seasonal one- $100 an hour and a $5,000 bonus if you stay until May 1. I called about getting mine washed and detailed and was given an appointment on April 18th.
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There are many, many slightly differing answers.
Most of my RV experience was 20+ years ago. Always in winter, always north of the 45th parallel, always boondocking (no hookups). Typically on-site for two weeks, then drive into town for the day to resupply and dump tanks, then back on-site. Lather, rinse, repeat.
What we learned:
- Skirts help. Blocking the wind from blasting under the RV meant the furnace ran less, so we didn't need to refill the LP as often. Skirts seemed to help keep the grey and black tanks from freezing up.
- We were using water jugs. We did not trust the fresh tank and pump to not freeze, since it was a 3-season rig we were pressing to serve in winter.
What I'm guessing may help:
- Since you said the filter is freezing, I'm guessing that you're using a remote filter panel with pressure regulator. A trash can turned upside down over the panel (and possibly the hydrant hookup) to act as a wind barrier and thermal break may help significantly.
That could be enough to let the overnight drip keep the filter thawed.
I do remember old timers telling me that they had a 100 watt lightbulb (filament, not CFL nor LED) next to their well pumps, and they kept it on during the winter. That put off just enough heat to keep the pump from freezing out on the farm. (Heat tape is probably more efficient.)
Walking back from the outhouse in a windy 40 below gives one a certain perspective.
I won't be offended if you figure out something better.
Good luck!
To my surprise, this little candles burned for eight days.
It keeps us warm
As with hospital admissions, most people who died had other health conditions, most commonly heart disease, substance use, and mental health disorders. According to detailed medical examiner records, 75% of those who died from cold exposure were outdoors. Of those exposed outdoors, about half were homeless or suspected to be homeless. The remaining 25% were inside when they were exposed to the cold and none had heat in their home. All were age 60 or older and two thirds had a mental illness, including one third who showed evidence of hoarding. Nearly all were living in single-family or row homes, rather than apartment buildings which are more common in NYC. A study by the Urban Green Council in NYC showed that single-family and row homes lose heat more quickly in cold weather than apartment buildings.
Hypothermia Can Happen Both Indoors and Outdoors
According to the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), older adults with inadequate heat, food and clothing and young children are at greater risk of getting hypothermia in any condition.
It may surprise you to know your body can lose a dangerous amount of heat even at room temperature if the conditions are right.
Not having any heat in your home in the winter can be very dangerous. So is keeping your heat turned down too low. Both can lead to hypothermia.
“It’s also not an uncommon scenario for a person to fall and be unable to get up off the floor,” Dr. Waters says. “Lying on a cold basement floor increases the body’s rate of cooling, creating a setting where hypothermia could set in.”
“If you’re wet, poorly nourished, or inadequately clothed on top of not having enough heat, you’ll get colder much faster — and the faster hypothermia can occur,” he says.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/footage-shows-looting-across-buffalo-city-plunged-chaos-after-blizzard
Travel bans in and around Buffalo and travel advisories for the rest of Erie County. Snow drifts up to 15 feet high amidst 60-80 mph winds and feet of lake effect snow over the weekend.
The looting is severe but there's no helicopters out there doing news coverage of it like during the LA riots. The police aren't even there because the roads are so bad. Tens of thousands are/were without power and heat. Almost all of the Family Dollar stores in the Buffalo area have been looted. No reason for these stores to return. The only coverage of the looting are passerbys and looters themselves streaming live on TikTok. The snow should melt later this week during a warmup to 50 degrees, and there are innumerable vehicles buried under snow on the streets. Bodies are being recovered in the cold. It's still snowing and still cold.
Buffalo Airport has a storm total of 49.2" of snow with another 3-6" on the way today. They've had 99" of snow this season, and the average for the entire season is 96".
Rain this coming weekend on top of the snowmelt could cause unprecedented flooding.
Eskom needs 5,000 MW or more to end the blackouts, and there's none of that in sight. Eskom is also so far in debt even the gov't bailing out half of their debt isn't enough. Eskom is almost bankrupt. Customers are being charged more for their electricity so even with hours of blackouts on many days, their bills are still going up. Lower classes can't afford electricity anymore. Blackouts have gone from 2-3 hours to over 8-10 hours, so backup batteries won't last that long. Grid collapse could come next month. Eskom has no money to buy diesel to run the power plants anymore, at least not until the next fiscal year starts in the spring.
TVA reinstates rolling blackouts for NES, other companies - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE20QRjIwgo
'Make us a priority': They went dark during the weather. Now they want answers. - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWqlpKWOLGU
The insects will start migrating north from Mexico soon, and the birds will follow.
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The insects will start migrating north from Mexico soon, and the birds will follow.
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That’s what she said.
Quote: SOOPOOI went from a month on Siesta Key wearing either a bathing suit or shorts for 30 straight days….. A few days only in the 60’s (PERFECT golf weather) most days in the 70’s, and a few days in the 80’s. To…. 6 degrees my first day back in Buffalo with bitter wind chills. Sunny, no snow, but just too cold to be outside. Short trip to Wegmans reminded me of why I wSnt to be back in Florida.
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You left at a good time, it is supposed to be a high of 75 tomorrow and windy. I will be miserable if i have to leave the house. Back to the 80's come Monday.
The heating in my building is failing the stress test below +10°F. The boiler is not heating the hot water pipes to anything approaching 180°F, and it's more like 130°F right now. I've got to run some electric heaters to supplement my heat, and it's not enough to trip the thermostats. I'm not sure if it's +2°F, or -8°F outside right now.
it's dry heat.Quote: rxwineNot very cold I guess. I hear Vegas may break a heat record this weekend.
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you'll be fine outside. just drink lots of water every hr
https://nypost.com/2020/06/19/its-so-hot-in-arizona-people-say-their-shoes-are-melting-off/
It was hot enough this week in Arizona — where temperatures climbed to 110 degrees — to melt your shoes, according to first-person accounts on social media.
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I'd get one of those laser thermometers and check the street temperature. The Weather Channel did and came up with over 165°F. People are getting 3rd degree burns on their bodies.
Quote: EvenBobAlmost middle of January and no snow at all this year really strange. So of course there's a blizzard warning for the next 2 days, 12 to 18 inches of snow and 50 mph winds. Started the generator, got 15 gallons of gas on the porch, enough food in my two pantries and freezers to last me till June of 2025, have a fully charged portable generator that will run the lights, and for the first time I have my furnace rigged so I can plug the generator right into it. The cats three large water bottles are full and I have 6 gallons of well water in 1 gallon jugs and the water tank in the basement for the pump is full. I was not always this prepared but as you get older your priorities change.
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Somebody asked me what my portable generator was and it's a Jackery 300. Has two AC Outlets and I've never tested it during an emergency yet but I did test it by running 3 40 watt light bulbs 24 hours a day for 48 hours and they never dimmed so I don't know how long the battery would last. I also charged my phone on it a couple of times during the 48 hours. I would imagine this is going to be real convenient during an emergency. I can even recharge it with the 5000 watt generator on the porch. It's a nice thing to have before you get the generator going. I can plug my drop light into it so I have lots of light on the porch when I'm screwing around with the big generator. Us old guys get a kick out of being prepared that young people really can't understand.
They're darn handy units.
Quote: DieterEvenBob, I had to reread that a few times. I got the impression you had said the little Jackery would run a furnace blower. (No, I don't think so. Needs more oomph.)
They're darn handy units.
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My friends who live off-grid swear by their Jackery's, but the 300 is designed to run small appliances when camping or in a blackout. It wouldn't power a house or anything close. It will charge your cell phones, provide some light, and let you watch television. A 300 model won't even run your full-size refrigerator for more than a couple of hours. The 3000 model is another story but they cost thousands more.
I looked at the various Jackery models and every person who owned them stressed the importance of getting one of their pro model lines.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterEvenBob, I had to reread that a few times. I got the impression you had said the little Jackery would run a furnace blower. (No, I don't think so. Needs more oomph.)
They're darn handy units.
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My friends who live off-grid swear by their Jackery's, but the 300 is designed to run small appliances when camping or in a blackout. It wouldn't power a house or anything close. It will charge your cell phones, provide some light, and let you watch television. A 300 model won't even run your full-size refrigerator for more than a couple of hours. The 3000 model is another story but they cost thousands more.
I looked at the various Jackery models and every person who owned them stressed the importance of getting one of their pro model lines.
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One advantage EB has, He doesn't need to worry about his fridge running in this case. For heat, he has one million candles and apparently the ability to breathe monoxide. If he set his clock forward far enough, he could miss the storm entirely,
I do miss not being able to make my legal NYS sports bets!
Quote: SOOPOOMy house may be getting hit by the blizzard soon. I’ll check on it from the spectacular penthouse on the Pacific here in Costa Rica. I’ll be in the ocean in an hour. Mid 80’s.
I do miss not being able to make my legal NYS sports bets!
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Isn't Costa Rica the capital of the internet gambling world? Can't you place a bet in-country?
Quote: DieterEvenBob, I had to reread that a few times. I got the impression you had said the little Jackery would run a furnace blower. (No, I don't think so. Needs more oomph.)
They're darn handy units.
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That's why I said I started the generator and I have 15 gallons of gas on the porch. Because my Jackery 300 runs on gasoline. The Jack 300 is great for running LED light bulbs and charging phones and computers but it sucks for anything else. They have bigger models for the big stuff. You never want to charge your phones off a gasoline generator because the electricity isn't clean. It has surges which will burn up a phone or a computer. You can get a surge protector meant for electronics to use with the generator but I'd rather have the Jackery.
Quote: ChumpChangeJackerys can recharge off solar panels but it's been severely cloudy with 80%+ humidity for 3 months straight here, there's no way to recharge by solar power.
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I can pick up a slow charge on mine on fairly cloudy day. But if it's like close to dark storm cloud type, that's probably too dark. The more panels you have the more you might get some charge in dimmer light.
But slow charges aren't worth much if you need to run something big.
Quote: rxwineQuote: ChumpChangeJackerys can recharge off solar panels but it's been severely cloudy with 80%+ humidity for 3 months straight here, there's no way to recharge by solar power.
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I can pick up a slow charge on mine on fairly cloudy day. But if it's like close to dark storm cloud type, that's probably too dark. The more panels you have the more you might get some charge in dimmer light.
But slow charges aren't worth much if you need to run something big.
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I don't have any solar panels for mine because I never have any intention of using it outdoors. I like working outdoors but anything leisurely outdoors I really don't like. What's to like about bugs, and wind, and heat and cold. I haven't had an outdoor grill in 35 years because I don't like it. That's why we built the indoors to get away from the outdoors. Even as a kid I hated picnics, what's to like.
Can ran for less then 3min from building to building lobby. Extreme breathing issue! Overnight cold destroyed European build streetcars painting due a metal conjunction force and blow away original paint to the clean steel panels. Beautiful unrealistic nature scenery of the snow covering trees to the white forest. Frozen rivers (3-4 feet ice depth) creates shortcuts for transportation. Very long winter and short summer. Unhuman / no habitat living conditions, but top place for the nature resources access like uranium, oil, gas, diamonds. That my childhood sweet memories of the family of Holocaust survivors. That my 2C to this topic
It's around 50 right now won't get higher than low 60s today. That's pretty much it for the week.
But I recall Decembers where it was so hot you could go jump in the ocean at 9pm, get out, and not feel chilly. It can happen in southern Cal.
Quote: gordonm888Where I live, Wednesday morning is predicted to have a low temp of 1 degree F.
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The the high temperature on Wednesday for here is 9°. Heck, my thermometer hasn't moved off 12° all day. Power outage 200 yards from here, the limbs are so heavy with snow they're falling on power lines in front of people's houses so there's lots of outages but they're not massive they're all localized. Another storm coming day after tomorrow with another 8 in of snow predicted.
There's about six inches of new snow on my garage but it only weighs about 300 lb total because it's dry lake effect snow. What I removed yesterday was about the same depth but it weighed about 1500 lb because it was wet snow. Huge difference. For those who don't know lake effect snow is caused by a warm Lake Michigan or any of the Great Lakes, with cold Arctic air blowing across it. It's the same effect as how a snow machine works on a ski slope. And of course all the Great Lakes are totally thawed because it's been the warmest winter so far in many years. Dieter lives in Wisconsin on the other side of Lake Michigan but he'll never have Lake Effect because the wind always blows west to east.
I regularly get whomped by the lake effect when I'm travelling around the Chicago-Michigan City-Benton Harbor area (absolutely awful), or along the Cleveland-Buffalo axis (no joke).
I'm not above revising travel plans due to weather. Currently relaxing in the Lake Region of the Poconos after spending 2 days slogging through that storm. (Shout out to the folks in the Wyoming Valley region.)
Quote: DieterI "live" in Wisconsin in the sense that my wife and kids stay there. Aside from some medical misadventures, I'm nomadic.
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In other words you're divorced. You talk about your family so much I thought you lived with them. You talk about your kids like you see them everyday. I don't live with my wife but we're not divorced or even separated. I just talked to my wife a while ago she's stuck in the retirement community snowed in. She's been playing her piano all afternoon. Thank God I'm not there, all she plays is Christian music and drives me nuts. Plus a big piano is way too loud, I can't be in the same room when she's playing.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterI "live" in Wisconsin in the sense that my wife and kids stay there. Aside from some medical misadventures, I'm nomadic.
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In other words you're divorced. You talk about your family so much I thought you lived with them. You talk about your kids like you see them everyday. I don't live with my wife but we're not divorced or even separated. I just talked to my wife a while ago she's stuck in the retirement community snowed in. She's been playing her piano all afternoon. Thank God I'm not there, all she plays is Christian music and drives me nuts. Plus a big piano is way too loud, I can't be in the same room when she's playing.
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You figured out a way to not cohabitate with your wife.
So did I. (shrug)
I have no intention of getting divorced again. It was unpleasant enough the first time around.
They don't like my taste in music, movies, or television - they seem to enjoy entertainments for the least common denominator, and I prefer more abstract cerebral expressions of creativity.
Anything they cook seems to be too salty or too greasy for me to eat.
Back on topic, it's been quite strong wind gusts. The temperature seems to be just below freezing, but the wind keeps trying to yank doors out of my hand whenever I try to go outside.