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varmenti
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October 5th, 2013 at 2:56:40 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Reason being, bac is one step above a coin flip in
complication. You bet B or P, that's it. A child of 6
can do it with the same amount of success as an
adult. On an excitement scale for casino games,
it's a -3. It's so boring the Asians invented card
mutilation to liven it up.



To me a "Coin Flip" Style Game of Chance that shows a Casino Vig of 1% is a good bet.
Seeing runs of 15 Bankers or Players is a good bet.

Asians use those score cards to determine math in their own way. in most cases sideways Runs instead of just vertical thus thus eliminating the Chop Chop betting that shows as a downfall in my method.

I don't care though. I like my Vertical runs of Bankers and Players. and I don't mind to lose a couple hundred during Chop Chop times.

Over all, the streaks are much more amazing than any other casino game.

EvanBob, what do you like to play?

Baccarat = 1% House edge, bet both sides, nothing allows you to lose both your bets.
Roulette = average runs of 5 with 0-00 wipes you out. 2.75 vig against you.
Craps = average runs of 6 on the pass line / Don't pass but again BAR12 and any Crap will wipe out your Bankroll before even getting started. 1.5 Vig against you.
Black Jack (counting cards using Basic strategy) average run of 3 in a row before wiping out your entire bank roll. +1% on your side but.... you still lose because the lack of runs.

Then there is Video Poker machines set to payout 100% (does that mean you put a hundred in and you get a hundred out? Nope because when the royal comes out, somebody is putting the money back in.

Slot Machines set for 110% payout will eat you up and spit you out in the short term.
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Beethoven9th
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October 5th, 2013 at 3:02:11 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

The card mutilation thing is pretty cool. There is a whole system to it. It's online somewhere (can't be bothered to google it). It really does add a whole extra layer to the game, in addition to all the "roads" and whatnot.


When I first started playing bac, I thought that squeezing the cards like this was stupid, but now I do it too! lol

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October 5th, 2013 at 3:03:19 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Reason being, bac is one step above a coin flip in.
complication. You bet B or P, that's it. A child of 6
can do it with the same amount of success as an
adult. On an excitement scale for casino games,
it's a -3. It's so boring the Asians invented card
mutilation to liven it up.

I actually learned something from you Bob, granted I don't know much about baccarat at all.

I seen this one time walking in a high limit room. I thought they were just spoiled brats. It reminded me of a few poker players I have seen ripping cards after being sucked out on. I didn't realize this was a thing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
varmenti
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October 5th, 2013 at 3:09:03 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

When I first started playing bac, I thought that squeezing the cards like this was stupid, but now I do it too! lol



This is the intensity that develops in players having 15,000 on a bet, they like to take their time to see the card from corner to corner and Whipping it on the Table when a Natural 9 appears giving them victory. this is the Climax of Asian Betting and Victory.
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October 5th, 2013 at 3:09:09 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

The card mutilation thing is pretty cool. There is a whole system to it. It's online somewhere (can't be bothered to google it). It really does add a whole extra layer to the game, in addition to all the "roads" and whatnot.


I believe baccarat is yet to be discovered. I simply don't know any other game where money won can be so astonishingly high. Most players unfortunately don't have a slightest clue of how to play it. Card torture is just another example, following patterns, streaks and so on. In some way proper play reminds day trading, you ride a wave increasing your bets,and time is your enemy, you can't allow yourself a luxury of playing a single hand for 15 minutes.
Beethoven9th
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October 5th, 2013 at 3:12:22 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I seen this one time walking in a high limit room. I thought they were just spoiled brats. It reminded me of a few poker players I have seen ripping cards after being sucked out on. I didn't realize this was a thing.


Yeah, bac is the one game where you can manhandle the cards. You usually don't see people totally rip them up and stuff, but bac players bend the cards like crazy all the time.
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October 5th, 2013 at 3:15:45 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Most players unfortunately don't have a slightest clue of how to play it...In some way proper play reminds day trading...


What are you talking about? Baccarat is game of 100% chance. There's no skill involved at all.
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October 5th, 2013 at 3:30:48 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Quote: Dicenor33

Most players unfortunately don't have a slightest clue of how to play it...In some way proper play reminds day trading...


What are you talking about? Baccarat is game of 100% chance. There's no skill involved at all.



You still don't get it man, Every game is 100% Gambling. That's why its in the Casino's. What builds the advantage to benefit the Player is Methods that include, Loss limiting, betting progression, Money management along with Goals.

you need all the elements in order to gain an advantage over the Casino.
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October 5th, 2013 at 3:34:36 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

What builds the advantage to benefit the Player is Methods that include, Loss limiting, betting progression, Money management along with Goals.
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Don't forget a heated car seat on the way to the
casino and your good luck charm. Those will be
as much help to you as the crap you just
listed. Remember, a warm ass is always
a welcome thing.
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Beethoven9th
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October 5th, 2013 at 3:35:11 PM permalink
gr8varmenti,

What were your math grades like in school?


Sincerely,
gr8beethoven
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