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Pabo
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October 3rd, 2013 at 11:53:46 AM permalink
Bob, you're absolutely right, so I'm not going to waste any more time with this. I do think, though, that gr8player's longing for attention and approval drive him to seek recognition in an outlandish manner. Trying to be remembered. A wannabe who'll never be, except in his own mind. That would be good enough for most people. Not him, though. As Mr. T would say: "I pity the fool."
DoubleOrNothing
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October 3rd, 2013 at 11:58:02 AM permalink
Quote: Pabo

Bob, you're absolutely right, so I'm not going to waste any more time with this. I do think, though, that gr8player's longing for attention and approval drive him to seek recognition in an outlandish manner. Trying to be remembered. A wannabe who'll never be, except in his own mind. That would be good enough for most people. Not him, though. As Mr. T would say: "I pity the fool."


When you argue with a deluded (fool), we all know whom is the (unhappily ordinary) fool.
I can't believe what I believe.
DoubleOrNothing
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October 3rd, 2013 at 12:06:08 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

Holy Crap!!! this thread is Better than "Young and the Restless"


You rock, man!
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AxelWolf
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October 3rd, 2013 at 12:34:38 PM permalink
Gr8player I asked this before but, I may have missed your response. What area do you play in. Someone said AC is true?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Beethoven9th
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October 3rd, 2013 at 12:37:40 PM permalink
Quote: rob45

The sum of two positives cannot equal a negative.


Hmm...that is a very good point. I will have to consult with my teacher gr8player, for he is the world's foremost expert in everything baccarat. (Don't believe me? Just ask him!)

I take it that the esteemed gr8player may indeed be a magician since he can make the sum of two positive numbers equal a negative number (i.e., a $250,000 loss)!
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October 3rd, 2013 at 3:28:54 PM permalink
Quote: JimRockford

Faces in the clouds my friend, but I'll not try to talk you out of it. Good luck to you.

Side note: As much as I disagree with gr8, I really don't understand the baiting and antagonizing.



JimRockford: I understand your concern. I said in another, earlier thread that I don't have anything against either gr8player or varmenti as individuals. They both appear to be nice guys. It's their systems and their inability/reluctance/refusal to explain and prove how those systems work that I am challenging.

gr8player refuses to speak clearly or articulately to explain his system and method of play. He simply reverts to speaking gobbledygook and circular doublespeak to try and portray himself as the Wizard of Baccarat. He claims great success, but is unable to explain how he achieves it or to provide evidence. He can't use math to explain it. He only uses pretention to try and convince people. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Who knows, maybe he does have the answer. But for me to believe him, he has to be able to drop the BS and spell out in plain English what he does. When you look behind the curtain, you see a plain, simple man, not a wizard, who relies on supercilious phrases to try and make his point.

As for varmenti. I agree that he is a very nice guy. He also truly believes in his style of play. Yet, he, too, is unable to clearly articulate his method/system and back it up with math to explain how it works. He further weakens his cause by claiming to be a professional gambler with 25 years experience, yet he spits out such bon mots as these:

- In blackjack, you should take the safe way out and insure your 18 against a dealer Ace. Absurd. Not advice that a true professional would give.

- Casinos have central servers to control the payout from slot machines. Equally absurd. I would like varmenti to identify those casinos that do that (maybe there are some in Canada, I dunno since I've never gambled there) and explain how he knows that. He can't. Again, this is not something that a true professional gambler would ever claim. A neophyte or noob, yes.

- Big Wheel and Rouletter are skill games because the dealers can influence them to land on the desired number. Again, no true professional would say something so absurd.

All I would like, because I do enjoy baccart, is for either of these gentlemen to spell out simply and coherently how their system works and why. They can't. My guess--when you sort through all the crap--is that they try to bet into streaks using betting progressions. Varmenti trys to hedge his bets by playing both Banker and Player. Oh, and guessing appears to be key element in both their systems, although they refuse to admit that. Regardless, none of it is going to overcome the house edge. Never has, never will.

I would love to find a way to beat baccarat. These two gentlemen claim to have the answer and I would like to learn their secret, yet they won't--or can't--explain themselves. They can only claim that whatever they're doing works. Just trust them. I'd like to, but I need proof.
Beethoven9th
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October 3rd, 2013 at 3:55:15 PM permalink
Quote: Pabo

gr8player refuses to speak clearly or articulately to explain his system and method of play. He simply reverts to speaking gobbledygook and circular doublespeak to try and portray himself as the Wizard of Baccarat. He claims great success, but is unable to explain how he achieves it or to provide evidence.

+1

In fact, that is exactly why he's prohibited from starting any new threads on baccarat. He talks...and talks...and talks.....yet he refuses to go into any detail about his "winning" system. (His last suspension occurred after he started another redundant thread about bac after being explicitly told by a moderator not to do so.)

Also, gr8player had issued a challenge (in regards to proving his system), yet he backed out of that, too! And he never mentions that he's in the hole $250,000!!! lol
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Pabo
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October 3rd, 2013 at 4:04:14 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

+1

In fact, that is exactly why he's prohibited from starting any new threads on baccarat. He talks...and talks...and talks.....yet he refuses to go into any detail about his "winning" system. (His last suspension occurred after he started another redundant thread about bac after being explicitly told by a moderator not to do so.)

Also, gr8player had issued a challenge (in regards to proving his system), yet he backed out of that, too! And he never mentions that he's in the hole $250,000!!! lol



Yeah, Beethoven9th, I've noticed he steadfastly ignores the challenge. He just keeps playing that same, 'ol tired tune over and over and over. Sigh.
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October 3rd, 2013 at 4:29:55 PM permalink
Quote: Pabo



- Casinos have central servers to control the payout from slot machines. Equally absurd. I would like varmenti to identify those casinos that do that .

He probably Can't but AxelGR8lWolf can Cosmopolitan, Aria, Revel
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Pabo
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October 3rd, 2013 at 4:33:59 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Cosmopolitan, Aria, Revel



Seriously? Is that public knowledge? How do you know this? Is this grapevine info? Do these casinos publicly acknowledge it?

Revel is in AC. Where are Cosmopolitan and Aria? I only know AC, Philadelphia area, Delaware and Maryland.

Thanks.

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