Swearing in a Casino
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June 15th, 2013 at 1:23:55 PM
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I've gotten trouble for swearing in a casino before.
When I lose a bet I didn't expect to lose I often
say 'Shit!' And I get a dirty look from the dealer. Or
a rebuke from the pit. I've even been threatened
with expulsion. I'm thinking of using foreign words
for the same expression. My fave so far is 'scheiss'
which is German for shit and is pronounced shy-suh.
I like it because you can say it with force and it starts
with the same sh sound. Any better ideas?
When I lose a bet I didn't expect to lose I often
say 'Shit!' And I get a dirty look from the dealer. Or
a rebuke from the pit. I've even been threatened
with expulsion. I'm thinking of using foreign words
for the same expression. My fave so far is 'scheiss'
which is German for shit and is pronounced shy-suh.
I like it because you can say it with force and it starts
with the same sh sound. Any better ideas?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 15th, 2013 at 1:34:33 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAny better ideas?
Try pig Latin.
"Uck-fay Ee-may" might be apt for moments of acute exasperation.
"What, me worry?"
June 15th, 2013 at 1:44:48 PM
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Quote: EvenBobpronounced shy-suh
We need to check with our German experts. I am confident you pronounce it "shice" as in "nice", but shy-suh is also swearing, scheisse for spelling and means "fuck" I do believe
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
June 15th, 2013 at 1:57:37 PM
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I'm reminded of the American soldier who aimed his rifle at the enemy soldiers and thought he was telling them to come out with their hands up or he would shoot. It turns out he was telling them to come out with their hands up or he would sh$%. He couldn't understand why the Germans always surrendered while laughing.
In a casino... exercise self control. Darn few dealers are native speakers of the English language.
In a casino... exercise self control. Darn few dealers are native speakers of the English language.
June 15th, 2013 at 1:58:28 PM
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I assume by the title, everyone knows this entire thread is likely NSFW.
German is one of my fallbacks as well. While schnell merely means fast or quick, my mind interprets it as “hurry the fuck up”. It allows me to use an innocent word that gives the same reliefs as a good curse. schnell, schnell, herr cardmeister might even illicit some smiles or giggles, when you’re really saying “deal the fucking cards, slow-body!”
Seneca would work good too as no one outside of my small area has a clue. But I never leave my small area so everyone knows what I’m saying. I don’t use it as a fallback much anymore because my kid starting picking up on it. The harsh syllables are easy for a youngster =/
It’d probably sound ridiculous coming from you, but I found cartoon curses to be a godsend. Sure it sounds like Yosemite Sam is in my garage, but I can “consarn” and “rasafrackin” all I want while my kid stands right next to me. Rasafrackin is much more acceptable around children than “motherfucker”, and I’ve done it so much my mind gives them equal power.
All else fails, go English. Bloody hell instead of sonofabitch, tosser instead of asshole, pillock instead of dickhead. You can totally train your brain to accept whatever word you want as the king of curses, and get that stress relief from whatever word you want.
German is one of my fallbacks as well. While schnell merely means fast or quick, my mind interprets it as “hurry the fuck up”. It allows me to use an innocent word that gives the same reliefs as a good curse. schnell, schnell, herr cardmeister might even illicit some smiles or giggles, when you’re really saying “deal the fucking cards, slow-body!”
Seneca would work good too as no one outside of my small area has a clue. But I never leave my small area so everyone knows what I’m saying. I don’t use it as a fallback much anymore because my kid starting picking up on it. The harsh syllables are easy for a youngster =/
It’d probably sound ridiculous coming from you, but I found cartoon curses to be a godsend. Sure it sounds like Yosemite Sam is in my garage, but I can “consarn” and “rasafrackin” all I want while my kid stands right next to me. Rasafrackin is much more acceptable around children than “motherfucker”, and I’ve done it so much my mind gives them equal power.
All else fails, go English. Bloody hell instead of sonofabitch, tosser instead of asshole, pillock instead of dickhead. You can totally train your brain to accept whatever word you want as the king of curses, and get that stress relief from whatever word you want.
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June 15th, 2013 at 2:05:23 PM
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Quote: FleaStiffthought he was telling them to come out with their hands up or he would shoot.
I got this one, he used sheissen instead of shiessen
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
June 15th, 2013 at 2:37:46 PM
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Quote: odiousgambitWe need to check with our German experts. I am confident you pronounce it "shice" as in "nice", but shy-suh is also swearing]
{start off with a /sh/ sound as in "shoe"
then say the English word "ice"
depending on the context sometimes you say the final "e" and sometimes not. if so:
the end is pronounced "e" as in Edit
sh-ice-e simple way = shy-zuh}
I like it because swearing in involuntary, you do
it from years of practice. Shy-zuh sounds so much
like the same sound that its an easy substitute. And
I read in English it can mean Damn It as well as shit.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 15th, 2013 at 3:41:42 PM
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Quote: odiousgambitI am confident you pronounce it "shice" as in "nice", but shy-suh is also swearing, scheisse for spelling and means "fuck" I do believe
There are basically two common versions, "Scheisse" (sounds like "shice-uh") and "Scheiss" (like "shice"). I guess as a non-native speaker you can use both, however (if you want to polish your german coarse skills) there is a subtile differrence. The first one "Scheisse" is the vulgar word for the defecation product itself. Often used alone in the sentence.
The second one "Scheiss" as abbreviation is even more informal, and very often used in "So ein Scheiss" ("What a crap") when you compare or comment on a situation or thing, or use it as attribute "Scheissladen" (i.e. shitty joint). You can also use it as adjective to strongly "degrade" high-value things (often other peoples') "dein scheiss Auto" (your crappy car), although logically the passive form "beschissen" would make more sense "dein beschissenes Auto" (literally: your car someone had shit on - stating its worthless status).
Sorry I can't give you good sound-like transcription. The german vocals are difficult to match to english words, especially the "e".
June 15th, 2013 at 5:32:23 PM
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Face : " All else fails, go English. Bloody hell instead of sonofabitch, tosser instead of asshole, pillock instead of dickhead. You can totally train your brain to accept whatever word you want as the king of curses, and get that stress relief from whatever word you want. "
In grievances meetings I would quite often tell management, he was a JERK. They would get as mad as if I called him an asshole, proving my point.
In grievances meetings I would quite often tell management, he was a JERK. They would get as mad as if I called him an asshole, proving my point.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
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June 15th, 2013 at 7:20:48 PM
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I have only been warned for this once before at the Quad of all places (when it was formerly IP) for cursing to myself while playing poker. Locally in St. Louis, poker guys have flown around curse words much more frequently with nothing mentioned unless it was actually directed at people. It definitely varies among employees, but I would think casinos would like to keep cursing to a minimum since using such words could escalate things emotionally.
June 15th, 2013 at 7:36:57 PM
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In Reno, a heavy majority of casino employees are Vietnamese..so we say "Do-Mah!" (translates to "motherfucker" in Vietnamese)
You'll get a laugh out of most Asian descent employees and players...and the usually gweilo suits, have no idea...
You'll get a laugh out of most Asian descent employees and players...and the usually gweilo suits, have no idea...
Welcome to the Republic of Nevada, where the 13th Amendment doesn't exist.
June 15th, 2013 at 10:50:29 PM
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Quote: aKaTIMSPEEDIn Reno, a heavy majority of casino employees are Vietnamese..so we say "Do-Mah!" (translates to "motherfucker" in Vietnamese)
You'll get a laugh out of most Asian descent employees and players...and the usually gweilo suits, have no idea...
Is a gweilo a derogatory word for white? I'm a middle aged white guy so I might use it for a laugh.
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June 16th, 2013 at 12:30:25 AM
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I tend to build somewhat of a rapport with dealers so they don't mind some of the obscenities I engage in.
I tip too much on table games. I'd probably be the only counter to lose my edge to tipping if I did it.
I tip too much on table games. I'd probably be the only counter to lose my edge to tipping if I did it.
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June 16th, 2013 at 4:39:38 AM
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Quote: BigJerIs a gweilo a derogatory word for white? I'm a middle aged white guy so I might use it for a laugh.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gweilo
but how do you pronounce it?
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
June 16th, 2013 at 11:12:38 AM
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Quote: odiousgambithttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gweilo
but how do you pronounce it?
Thank you.
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June 16th, 2013 at 1:57:44 PM
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It's one thing to cuss quietly and another to berate an employee or other players with obscenities. The place is 21+ and has drinking and smoking. If bad language is offensive then maybe a casino is not the right place for you.
Earlier this year I was in Deadwood and having a discussion about someone's ex GF and I described her as the acronym for a girl that Cannot Understand Normal Thought. The dealer got furious but 1) He was not a part of the conversation 2) Most of the people at the poker table were a part of my group 3) It was not said loudly and caused no disruption to the game. Again, if a dealer is this easily offended, then maybe he/she needs a different job because they do not belong in an adult establishment.
Earlier this year I was in Deadwood and having a discussion about someone's ex GF and I described her as the acronym for a girl that Cannot Understand Normal Thought. The dealer got furious but 1) He was not a part of the conversation 2) Most of the people at the poker table were a part of my group 3) It was not said loudly and caused no disruption to the game. Again, if a dealer is this easily offended, then maybe he/she needs a different job because they do not belong in an adult establishment.
June 16th, 2013 at 4:44:55 PM
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Time and Place, Gentlemen. Also direction. "F" is a bad word in a casino, "F-You" however usually means you are 86'd right then and there. An expletive uttered in a moment of stress is one thing but an expletive clearly directed at a casino employee is not tolerated. No warnings or second chances. "F" is bad enough when the dealer makes 21 but "FU" is "Goodbye".
June 16th, 2013 at 4:50:39 PM
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Quote: FleaStiffTime and Place, Gentlemen. Also direction. "F" is a bad word in a casino, "F-You" however usually means you are 86'd right then and there. An expletive uttered in a moment of stress is one thing but an expletive clearly directed at a casino employee is not tolerated. No warnings or second chances. "F" is bad enough when the dealer makes 21 but "FU" is "Goodbye".
I said the F word one time out loud and I covered my mouth then apologized. Did that one time with the s-word too.
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June 16th, 2013 at 5:19:21 PM
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Really, there is no more insulting word than the one you mention above to describe a woman. Much worse than eff. And no comparable word for males; c-s and m-f are the worst I can think of, and they don't come close. I'm not particularly sensitive to most descriptors, or censorous of my friends, but that one is not acceptable. Just so you have a female feedback...
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
June 16th, 2013 at 5:37:45 PM
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Quote: FleaStiffTime and Place, Gentlemen. Also direction. "F" is a bad word in a casino, "F-You" however usually means you are 86'd right then and there. An expletive uttered in a moment of stress is one thing but an expletive clearly directed at a casino employee is not tolerated. No warnings or second chances. "F" is bad enough when the dealer makes 21 but "FU" is "Goodbye".
Lol, I hear that alot...if a casino is such a "family environment" why do they force them to work on christmas/thanksgiving/any other "family" holiday...
Gimme-a-fuggin-break....A casino is no different than a bar...hell maybe WORSE than a bar...at least a bar closes on "family" days...
Another thing...trust me, if you're betting black-action at most places, you can do almost anything you want in the casino...(some places, though, you'll be required to have purple-action)
FWIW, I have watched this time and time again at multiple properties...if someone is betting black-action, it doesn't matter if they tell the dealers off...as soon as they're broke, BOOM! 86'd for the night...lol, it's almost comedic...sans feeling bad for the human spirit that casino employees must endure it. (They don't HAVE to, but as one dealer put it "I gotta eat!")
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June 16th, 2013 at 5:39:47 PM
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One woman told me her husband had called her that twice .... I was shocked that both he and the marriage had survived.Quote: beachbumbabsReally, there is no more insulting word than the one you mention above to describe a woman.
Of course I used to tell of the time one woman used "The C-Word" several times with me and I actually started to count. When it happened for the tenth time that evening, I threw money for the cab down on the table top and stormed out loudly proclaiming that I didn't want to hear the word "commitment" ever again in my life! Men and women just have different views on that "C-word" stuff.
June 16th, 2013 at 5:42:01 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
June 16th, 2013 at 5:56:06 PM
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Quote: aKaTIMSPEED
Gimme-a-fuggin-break....A casino is no different than a bar...hell maybe WORSE than a bar..
I agree. When I had the bar the customers
swore all the time and it was fine. Same
environment, no children allowed and lots
of drinking. Why its so frowned on in a
casino is a mystery.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 16th, 2013 at 6:08:01 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI agree. When I had the bar the customers
swore all the time and it was fine. Same
environment, no children allowed and lots
of drinking. Why its so frowned on in a
casino is a mystery.
Maybe it is different, though. Pretty much the only reason you to a bar (at least the dives I frequent) is to go get rowdy with the boys. There, the worse the language gets, the better time you’re having.
A casino on the other hand has people that aren’t drinking at all. Maybe some are there for a sober relaxing game, or there for a “classy experience” (depending on joint). The nice old lady won’t be at “Ruffcutts”, but she will be at the $5 BJ.
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June 16th, 2013 at 6:33:59 PM
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There are worse oaths that one can utter than the ones you mention.
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June 16th, 2013 at 7:38:51 PM
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My very first time in Vegas was my 21st birthday. We played at Caesars Palace and it was myself and 2 other buddies. It was our very first time in Vegas. My buddies and I were casually chatting at a roulette table and my buddy said the f word during our conversation. The dealer flipped out. My friend didn't yell the word or even direct it at anyone else. The dealer was just a huge dick after that and said things like my friend had to take his sunglasses off at the table and other harassing things just so we would leave. We got the hint and left but I was pretty shocked the dealer was so upset that somebody said that word.
June 16th, 2013 at 8:10:40 PM
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Quote: BeardgoatMy buddies and I were casually chatting at a roulette table and my buddy said the f word during our conversation. The dealer flipped out. .
Totally believe it. I say words to myself quietly and
the warn me. Its nuts. Shi-suh..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 17th, 2013 at 2:29:05 AM
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Or you could always be the boss of yourself and control your language. Unless of course sounding uneducated and not in control of yourself in public is your goal.
June 17th, 2013 at 4:56:07 AM
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Quote: MonkeyMonkeyOr you could always be the boss of yourself and control your language. Unless of course sounding uneducated and not in control of yourself in public is your goal.
Some of the most educated people I know swear
all time. I have a friend who is 76, has a genius IQ
and 3 degrees and swears like a Marine. Education
has nothing to do with it. Its a matter of habit and
personal preference.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 17th, 2013 at 5:53:10 AM
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A C$%$ is a P#&$& without its makeup on.
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June 17th, 2013 at 8:12:44 AM
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Its also a matter of behavior that is appropriate to the time and place in which you find yourself. Its generally frowned on in a casino even if women are not present as either customers or dealers. Its simply not part of the fun no matter what your habits and preferences are elsewhere. Its discouraged and if an expletive gets blurted out that is different than if it gets uttered after careful selection. Its a place for merriment and booze and boobs and its most definitely not a convent, but it is a casino and the focus should be on making money.Quote: EvenBobIts a matter of habit and personal preference.
June 17th, 2013 at 12:30:36 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsReally, there is no more insulting word than the one you mention above to describe a woman. Much worse than eff. And no comparable word for males; c-s and m-f are the worst I can think of, and they don't come close. I'm not particularly sensitive to most descriptors, or censorous of my friends, but that one is not acceptable. Just so you have a female feedback...
It's an awful word and one that I would never utter. It's certainly no way to describe someone's mother, wife, daughter or sister. That said, I'm not sure how these words are rated more or less offensive than others. For the record I've been called that word and laughed it off. I'm a guy so I guess it depends on the context.
In Pokeraddict's case it was a group of males who knew each other and they were talking quietly. Based on his recollection, I'm of the opinion that the dealer should have kept his mouth shut. Some casinos instruct their dealers to do just that. Confrontations with patrons are to be avoided and dealer concerns are to be brought to the floor or pit boss. Those failing to adhere to that policy can be subject to discipline up to and including termination. Dealers where I play can't even ask a player for an ID.
Here's hoping that you never hear that word again!
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
June 17th, 2013 at 1:04:30 PM
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Quote: 1BBIt's an awful word and one that I would never utter.
There's a hilarious episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where
Larry David uses the C word at a get together of friends, couples
actually, and everybody is so shocked they find excuses to
leave. Like he says, its just a word, so what. He writes all
the episodes and his point here is we are soooo PC now and
our delicate sensibilities are so easily offended that its ridiculous.
Read the comment section below the video, the Brits think we're
nuts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E_7q4hzWFc
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June 17th, 2013 at 1:09:04 PM
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I heard of someone saying "fuck" (I think after getting aces cracked), being warned, asking what the penalty was, and on hearing it was a 1-hand penalty, saying it again out of simple spite - I hear the word often enough, though, without any warnings. I suspect when most of your patrons come from Boston and New York, you've got to pick your battles.
The thing about that other word is that I'm not really sure what else to say. I'm told to avoid it (and even "bitch") because it's a "gendered" insult, but really all similar insults are gendered - it doesn't sound right to call a woman an asshole or a motherfucker, and some women just plain are, well, assholes and motherfuckers.
The English say it all the time, it's true, but almost never men to describe women - and Americans who use it hardly ever use it to describe men.
The thing about that other word is that I'm not really sure what else to say. I'm told to avoid it (and even "bitch") because it's a "gendered" insult, but really all similar insults are gendered - it doesn't sound right to call a woman an asshole or a motherfucker, and some women just plain are, well, assholes and motherfuckers.
The English say it all the time, it's true, but almost never men to describe women - and Americans who use it hardly ever use it to describe men.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
June 18th, 2013 at 6:50:41 AM
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Quote: EvenBobSome of the most educated people I know swear
all time. I have a friend who is 76, has a genius IQ
and 3 degrees and swears like a Marine. Education
has nothing to do with it. Its a matter of habit and
personal preference.
Aw Bob, how nice of you to respond. And here I had taken you at your word that you had me blocked. I guess I was wrong to believe you. Oh well, live and learn.
As you your comment, I think you might read mine again, I didn't say that only the uneducated used swear words, I said that if you wanted to "sound" uneducated you would talk that way. And if you can't help yourself or you've let it become habit it would appear that you aren't in control of yourself. Not surprising really that you'd jump up to defend those that appear to not be in control of themselves.
June 18th, 2013 at 7:53:54 AM
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I would say use of those words only makes you sound uneducated to the same type of person to whom rhetorically pointless jargon sounds educated.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
June 18th, 2013 at 8:44:21 AM
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Once I was in town with a bunch of the boys for a bachelor party. We took over a red chip blackjack table at TI for a few sessions, always going back to the same dealer. We had our drink on and she was playing along with it. One of our boys liked to play blackjack very fast, usually preferring to play solo and with green chips. Needless to say our table was going slow. At one point he wanted ot hit his 15 and the dealer was busy chatting with one of the other guys or something and finally he shouted out for all to hear "GIVE ME A F***ING SIX!!!" The whole pit stopped and everyone looked at him. I don't remember the result of the hand but it didn't happen again and I don't think we really got in trouble aside from the floor giving him a dirty look.
June 18th, 2013 at 9:32:55 AM
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Personally a little profanity is ok, but overused every other word and it does make me uncomfortable. To be more precise, using profanity is better described as showing a limited vocabulary rather than being uneducated.
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June 18th, 2013 at 10:32:35 AM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleTo be more precise, using profanity is better described as showing a limited vocabulary rather than being uneducated.
Not so. Choosing to be profane occasionally
has nothing to do with anything. Education,
vocabulary, upbringing. Profanity is sometimes
the perfect response, the perfect word at just
the right time.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 23rd, 2013 at 11:01:54 AM
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They are usually usually pretty strict regarding the word Fcuk down-under, was listening to one guy arguing with the pit crew about a casino not being a church. He ended up with a 24hr ban. In the UK things a bit more relaxed, although the four letter "c" word would be a no-no, then again it all depends who you are and how much leverage you have with management. One Chinese player uses it all the time and gets away with it.
Sometimes the Chinese wanting to see the end of a Punto streak will call out 'kill the cunto' while betting Bank. Personally having spent many years in the company of Chinese players, I've learned a fair amount of Cantonese which I can use, although I need to be doubly careful. It isn't so much as losing a bet or any bet size, rather the manner in which you lose.
Once had a big bet on Punto. Punto pulls a N9, end result a Tie and I hadn't hedged the Tie, okay double Tie even less remote so I am not backing it this time around, I had already missed the bus. N8 to the Punto "YES", end result another bloody tie, jaysus, those Tie wins would have covered my bet. I really do need this win, N8 to the Punto, this time? Three naturals in a row (incidentally I was betting the opposite of the entire table), N9 to the Banco, roar goes up and high fives to the guy squeezing the bastard cards, meanwhile I sink sitting at box 9 .
Tell me you ain't gonna curse to high heavens after that debacle, I was so mad I had to walk away from a laughing & hooting table. Baccarat, is like this sometimes, gambling is gambling and can be hard-core at times, which is why I never understood why some forums don't tolerate swearing.
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Sometimes the Chinese wanting to see the end of a Punto streak will call out 'kill the cunto' while betting Bank. Personally having spent many years in the company of Chinese players, I've learned a fair amount of Cantonese which I can use, although I need to be doubly careful. It isn't so much as losing a bet or any bet size, rather the manner in which you lose.
Once had a big bet on Punto. Punto pulls a N9, end result a Tie and I hadn't hedged the Tie, okay double Tie even less remote so I am not backing it this time around, I had already missed the bus. N8 to the Punto "YES", end result another bloody tie, jaysus, those Tie wins would have covered my bet. I really do need this win, N8 to the Punto, this time? Three naturals in a row (incidentally I was betting the opposite of the entire table), N9 to the Banco, roar goes up and high fives to the guy squeezing the bastard cards, meanwhile I sink sitting at box 9 .
Tell me you ain't gonna curse to high heavens after that debacle, I was so mad I had to walk away from a laughing & hooting table. Baccarat, is like this sometimes, gambling is gambling and can be hard-core at times, which is why I never understood why some forums don't tolerate swearing.
Pokki
June 23rd, 2013 at 11:50:43 AM
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I was once nailed at a horse track for letting out a huge F bomb after getting nose photoed for lots of money. Lots. Nobody heard the F Bomb as it was late during a simulcast. It was me and two tellers, that I had been tipping heavily the entire day. Next thing I know security is tapping me on the shoulder. Barney Fife threaten to kick me out. My reply was the standard....."this is not a church, people die, horses die, people go broke, families are destroyed, crippled and broken people everywhere." "f you JO." I left quickly before cops got there. Never returned to the dump.
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