Drawings/86'ed

I believe this has been discussed, however I will ask anyway. What is gaming control's official stance on situations like this? :Lets say you have been playing in a multi part drawing. Earn tickets for a weekly drawing. After the weekly drawing the unpicked tickets go into a bigger 2nd drawing. After 3 months They will have the 2nd bigger drawing. Now the casino decides to 86 you for AP, prior to both a weekly drawing and final drawing in which you have many tickets? 1 pick only for the weekly drawing winner must be present. Final drawing draw until someone is present.

You're not there (because you are not allowed to be there) so you can't win. Bad timing.

ZCore13

Is casino mail an out if it doesn't include a qualifier voiding 86ed members?
I would think this would be an invitation if received after banning.
I'm not a lawyer and will not bail you out.

I think you would be entitled to collect the prize if you win. My advice is to show up anyway, but be discreet. If you are called and they try to refuse to give you the prize then Gaming would take your side.

The mailing issue was not part of the OP explaination, but I would still say the player would not get to receive the prize. Mailings for promotions like this are created and sent out well before the actual event starts. If the player is banned (which I'm assuming is the OP's definition of 86'd) from the casino during a promotion, anything received during that time was probably in the process or sent prior to knowleded of the incident.

As part of a ban, the player is told they may not return to the property for any reason. A lot of times this includes any property owned by the establishment, including corporate offices.

ZCore13

What happens if the drawing is not on the casino floor? Like if Aria had a drawing on the City Center part of the property, or Caesars had one in the Forum shoppes. Or, as really does happen, Valley Forge had a drawing on the convention center property but outside of the casino. As a banned player, can I claim a gambling-related prize if I don't have to enter the casino to do it?

That you may be able to do since it's not on the property. Not sure on that one though.

ZCore13

Quote: Wizard

I think you would be entitled to collect the prize if you win. My advice is to show up anyway, but be discreet. If you are called and they try to refuse to give you the prize then Gaming would take your side.

The place is to small certainly they would notice.
giving it more thought since they call by name only, they would just say the ticket was blank or illegible and toss it back in.

Quote: AxelWolf

I believe this has been discussed, however I will ask anyway. What is gaming control's official stance on situations like this? :Lets say you have been playing in a multi part drawing. Earn tickets for a weekly drawing. After the weekly drawing the unpicked tickets go into a bigger 2nd drawing. After 3 months They will have the 2nd bigger drawing. Now the casino decides to 86 you for AP, prior to both a weekly drawing and final drawing in which you have many tickets? 1 pick only for the weekly drawing winner must be present. Final drawing draw until someone is present.

I hope this reply isn't too late to help you. I had a very similar situation come up; I was playing VP in a smallish casino, not in Vegas or Reno, when management came around and told a bunch of people (including me) that they weren't allowed to play machines anymore. OK, fine. But then when I went to get my many hundreds of drawing tickets, the boothling saw a note on my account and asked management, and management told them I'd been backed off and wouldn't be receiving drawing tickets. Not OK.

I called Gaming and explained the situation. They came out immediately. It was already late, and it was quite a drive for them, so it was 2am when they arrived. They took my statement, and interviewed the shift management, who said it'd been the general manager's decision. They then had the GM woken up and brought in to be Spoken To. After all this, they ordered the casino to print out my tickets, and made it clear that I must be allowed to attend the week's drawings. (It was not a multi-part affair.) They could prevent me from playing, they could 86 me after the drawings, but they were not to interfere with my use of the drawing tickets I'd properly earned.

Security was hovering near me and some other backed-off players during the drawings, and engaged in some petty harassment (making up imaginary rules to try and prevent us from waiting in the nearly-empty cafe between drawings), but whatever. I won three times in the drawing for a total of $6500; by rule no one could win more than three times, so I wandered off to use the restroom, then slipped out from there. Those who stuck around for the last drawing were read the Trespass Act and escorted out immediately afterwards.

TL,DR: Gaming will probably require the casino to allow you to attend the drawing. No idea about official policy, but that was my experience.

I wonder if they could give you the fair value of the drawing entries and say goodbye again. Personally, I'd call GCB before entering the property again just in case a trespass voids your tix.