skrbornevrymin
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March 1st, 2013 at 6:31:12 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Never seen it, and I've tried to get a suit to
talk. They refuse to discuss private details
of a player, in fact they get downright testy
if you push it.


EvenBob, private eye.
superrick
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March 1st, 2013 at 7:34:57 AM permalink
It is almost impossible to get a dealer or suit to talk about any player on a table when they are at work or even after work!

I've only seen it once when I was the only one at the table after a player left the table the dealers opened up the flood gates about the player like I wasn't even there. Maybe in all their rage they were blind to the fact that I was standing there! The player thought it was fun to hassle the dealers.

Having worked around the casinos and having lunch in their EDR's, I can tell you that you won't find any dealer talking about a player, They may say you should have seen the jerk I had at the table, betting this way or some thing like that, but their job is on the line for talking about players, or passing along any personal information they have about them! [EDR] Employee Dining Room.

So if you are reading that a suit said something about a player, or a dealer did, all I can say is BS. They would be fired for doing so!
I've known some of the dealers for years now and I can't get any information out of them about a player, even when asking about how they did playing yesterday! The same thing goes for bumping into them at a casino that they are playing craps at on their day off. They are closed mouth about anybody they deal to!

You can go on line and read a lot of the Employee Guidance Manuals, for the different casinos.

Here is just one of them :

http://www.hollywoodcasinoaurora.com/~/media/aurora/hr-documents/HCA%20%20Employee%20Guidance%20Manual.ashx

I've also seen a poster writing nothing but BS about what a dealer or suit said on this board, trust me it didn't happen. If someone from the casino was shown that post they would be fired!

I even got friends that are retired suits and dealers that you can't get to talk about the players they have dealt to!
Anybody that is posting that a dealer said something about a player is putting that dealer in jeopardy of losing their job!
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Buzzard
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March 1st, 2013 at 7:51:15 AM permalink
And yet when I worked at the Riviera in Blackhawk, the dealers did this regularly while on break. Suits usually were not in the breakroom, but joined in on the bus back down the hill.

tTust me it does happen in Colorado. And poker rooms everywhere for damn sure !

Just stating facts Rick. No disrespect meant.
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Beethoven9th
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March 1st, 2013 at 8:26:42 AM permalink
Quote: superrick

So if you are reading that a suit said something about a player, or a dealer did, all I can say is BS. They would be fired for doing so!

Fighting BS one post at a time!
superrick
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March 1st, 2013 at 8:38:35 AM permalink
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Buzzard

And yet when I worked at the Riviera in Blackhawk, the dealers did this regularly while on break



Well I stand correct it on this one!

I'm sure that if you put dealers in a break room where no players were you would have them talking about the jerk player they had on the table, but not out in the casino!

Personally I could never be a dealer, having to put up with some to the stuff that players do, specially in the high limit rooms. Where abuse of the dealers runs rampant.
So lets just say that won't find dealers talking about players while they are at the tables or to any individual that is not an employee of the casino they work in!

A good book to read about dealers is: Dummy Up And Deal By H. Lee Barnes copyright 2002
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March 1st, 2013 at 8:51:04 AM permalink
Quote: superrick

I'm sure that if you put dealers in a break room where no players were you would have them talking about the jerk player they had on the table, but not out in the casino!



Having spent some breaks with dealers, I can vouch for this. It seems to me the biggest dealer grievance about players are those who have a lousy attitude and blame the dealer for bad cards. Second would be players who don't tip, especially those who play for a long time, and win. Some dealers are sensitive about the smoking issue, and can't stand it when players blow smoke in their face.
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1BB
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March 1st, 2013 at 8:58:11 AM permalink
Certain games may be more conducive to this behavior than others. I hear it at the blackjack table but I usually ignore it. They wouldn't talk about me would they? :-) Guess what? They talk about each other just as much.

I've seen floors look at the computer and divulge the year a player was born or their hometown or state. I've never seen them say a person's age outright but that's probably because they can't add. If you play rated there are no secrets. These are not isolated incidents.
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superrick
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March 1st, 2013 at 9:21:55 AM permalink
Quote:



Wizard

Having spent some breaks with dealers, I can vouch for this. It seems to me the biggest dealer grievance about players are those who have a lousy attitude and blame the dealer for bad cards. Second would be players who don't tip, especially those who play for a long time, and win. Some dealers are sensitive about the smoking issue, and can't stand it when players blow smoke in their face.



So let me ask you this; have you ever heard these dealers talk about one player, using the players name when you were with them, besides just saying something like you know Mr. C is the biggest jerk that I've ever had to deal to?
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EvenBob
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March 1st, 2013 at 9:33:05 AM permalink
Quote: superrick


I've also seen a poster writing nothing but BS about what a dealer or suit said on this board, trust me it didn't happen. If someone from the casino was shown that post they would be fired!



We're supposed to believe at the Revel, suits routinely
discuss the private details about players, with other players.
They give everything but their SS numbers to anybody who
asks.

Whatever. I don't believe it. Somebody is up to something
here, thats as far as I'm going to take it..
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rdw4potus
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March 1st, 2013 at 9:38:31 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

We're supposed to believe at the Revel, suits routinely
discuss the private details about players, with other players.
They give everything but their SS numbers to anybody who
asks.

Whatever. I don't believe it. Somebody is up to something
here, thats as far as I'm going to take it..



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