Bellagio stabbing, new developements

I am VERY confused about this story. When this story broke, the person being arrested was named as Brenda Wilson.

last night on the local news here in Vegas, they ran a story about a local 10 year old girl who has been missing since friday afternoon, hours before the stabbing at Bellagio. The connection: The missing girl was last in the company of the woman charged in the Bellagio stabbing. Only now they refer to her as Brenda Stokes rather than Brenda Wilson. Same police picture though? This Brenda Wilson or Brenda Stokes person who is currently still in jail is not talking. I am very confused as to why this person has two different names and if the Bellagio stabbing had/has anything to do with the missing girl? Anyone know any details that I am missing?

http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/184726521.html

From: http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/story/Female-blackjack-dealer-suffers-facial-wounds-in/rg6J8UQ9LUm6TtLVSCdlbg.cspx

Brenda Jean Stokes, 50, was charged with burglary, battery with a deadly weapon, battery with use of a deadly weapon-substantial bodily harm and mayhem. Martin said a weapon was confiscated. Stokes was booked into the Clark County Detention Center. Stokes was originally identified as Brenda Wilson.

Probably gave a fake/or a relatives name.

Quote: EdgeLooker

From: http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/story/Female-blackjack-dealer-suffers-facial-wounds-in/rg6J8UQ9LUm6TtLVSCdlbg.cspx

Brenda Jean Stokes, 50, was charged with burglary, battery with a deadly weapon, battery with use of a deadly weapon-substantial bodily harm and mayhem. Martin said a weapon was confiscated. Stokes was booked into the Clark County Detention Center. Stokes was originally identified as Brenda Wilson.

Probably gave a fake/or a relatives name.

Ok, thank you. That clears up that part of it. Sadly, I have a feeling the 10 year old missing girl part of the story is related. Probably why she gave the phoney name. I have a bad feeling about that end of the story. Maybe it will have a happy, christmas ending.

So what name did MGM have her hired under? Seems like a lot of this story is yet to come out.

Police search for missing girl last seen with suspect in Bellagio stabbing

Apparantly, both the attacker and the victims were blackjack dealers as the Bellagio.

As expected this story got worse today.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/police-find-body-believed-to-be-missing-10-year-old-girl-in-desert-184980791.html

No dealer job yet to replace the attacker listed on the MGM site yet.

Clearly, this was expected. Whatever is exactly meant by "betrayal" and "seven year relationship" and "harassing phone calls" its clear something significant was afoot and that one or even a few doses of a mild anti-anxiety drug such as Xanax has nothing to do with an attempt at serious disfiguration in a crowded casino.

Obviously some sort of triangle existed and gave way with the carnage spilling over into an upscale casino.

Would it be crass to say this should have happened in a lowest tier place? Does the mug shot and multiple names suggest a high end casino or a low end casino? Lets face it, it was not a stabbing; it was a slicing and she knew what she was doing. Also let us not forget that some probably forever unsung hero is out there somewhere. He put a stop to it even though he was playing blackjack. Security took over pretty darn quick but it was a patron who ended it.

Oh well, shall we compare Vegas to local Indian casinos and perhaps have our illusions ended forever? High end Bellagio is a dream and always has been? Or perhaps High End Bellagio remains simply a part of "Vegas, Baby" and includes the same type of stabbings as take place at Excalibur. Or are these events too rare to be used to define various tiers of casinos in Las Vegas?

Blame the Bellagio? These seem to have been relatively longer term employees. The casino's name is on the line once its in all those press releases.

NOTE: It occurs to me that there is another thread somewhere here about Flirting With Blackjack Dealers. Anyone care to flirt with the type of dealer who would deep slice and disfigure another woman for life? Anyone want to flirt with her about in what sort of background she learned such values and actions?

Quote: NicksGamingStuff

No dealer job yet to replace the attacker listed on the MGM site yet.

Well, she is innocent until pr.. Hey!! Stop Stabbing Me!!

Ugh..

KEWLJ. Not faulting you for posting that link. Just wish I had not clicked on it. SO SAD !!!

Quote: FleaStiff

Clearly, this was expected. Whatever is exactly meant by "betrayal" and "seven year relationship" and "harassing phone calls" its clear something significant was afoot and that one or even a few doses of a mild anti-anxiety drug such as Xanax has nothing to do with an attempt at serious disfiguration in a crowded casino.

Maybe it was expected to those close to the situation of these people, but then again, perhaps not. The 10-year old deceased - murdered - girl (Jade) was entrusted to Brenda Stokes without concern right before this incident, and on the day that Stokes snapped and went absolutely berserk.
It's apparent that the wheels came off of this cart; abrupt discontinuation of any psych med can really be destabilizing, compounded with a hostile lovers' quarrel situation, but this is really tragic. (I think of Barbara Gordon's "I'm dancing as fast as I can" book.) I think a lot of factors went into this Stokes situation, and when it fell apart, it just exploded. There were parts in the news that Stokes expressed some concerns, comments that she was "losing it."

Quote: FleaStiff

Obviously some sort of triangle existed and gave way with the carnage spilling over into an upscale casino.

Would it be crass to say this should have happened in a lowest tier place? Does the mug shot and multiple names suggest a high end casino or a low end casino? Lets face it, it was not a stabbing; it was a slicing and she knew what she was doing. Also let us not forget that some probably forever unsung hero is out there somewhere. He put a stop to it even though he was playing blackjack. Security took over pretty darn quick but it was a patron who ended it.

The whole things reeks low class, - not Bellagio. But how can the employer know if help was not requested, and her own associates didn't know. The people who went postal were not the ones walking into a hostipal psych ward saying, "Help me!" They keep up the veneer until it all breaks down.

Quote: Fleastiff

...Blame the Bellagio? These seem to have been relatively longer term employees. The casino's name is on the line once its in all those press releases.

Stokes is to blame, - her actions. And just Horrible PR, I'm sure legions of gaming execs are cringing, understandably. What kind of press release can the Bellagio put forth? Place an item under their site's "Latest News?" What possibly can be said?

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NOTE: It occurs to me that there is another thread somewhere here about Flirting With Blackjack Dealers. Anyone care to flirt with the type of dealer who would deep slice and disfigure another woman for life? Anyone want to flirt with her about in what sort of background she learned such values and actions?

If Stokes had worked as marketing exec or a electrician, would it reflect upon those professions?

Thousands of horny, half-drunk guys flirt with Blackjack dealers and cocktail waitresses in Vegas casinos, I don't think the electricians quite get that sort of action as part of their jobs. Or live on tips so that they have to tolerate it.

Dancing Fast? Ain't never read it. If it ain't about card counting, I don't think I want to read it. Benzodiazepines are pretty weak drugs and Models of Madness, Models of Medicine said it all, long ago.

There's an update on this:
Blood found in car that Stokes borrowed.

The blood is being tested for a match to the child. Stokes is the primary suspect in the child's demise.

Also, there WERE signs. She tried to be admitted for a psychiatric exam. To quote: A police report said Wilson told investigators following her arrest that she visited her doctor last week, seeking to be admitted to a hospital "due to feeling like she wanted to hurt someone."

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Reporting live from Bellagio...

One table has a different (darker) shade of new felt than the others. Also all dealers are denying anything ever happened and "...that you can't believe everything reported in the news."

Yeah, sure...

self serving post arrest statements are hardly reliable.

You can pay twenty dollars a night for a room and associate with this type of person.

Or, you can pay Bellagio's ultra-high rates for supposed luxury and associate with this type of person without knowing it.

Kudos to that quick reacting Blackjack player.

Quote: Buzzard

Wonder what type of Medical Insurance Bellagio employees have ? All to often HMO doctors are reluctant to admit patients when it might affect their annual compensation.

Cite one example. How 'often'? Seriously, Buzzie, cite one example of a physician who contractually gets less from an insurance company because of an admission for psychiatric evaluation. It may be the opposite.... a doctor would fear liability if they let a looney back on to the streets. And of course, it is VERY difficult to force an admission to a facility against a person's will......

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Quote: FleaStiff

NOTE: It occurs to me that there is another thread somewhere here about Flirting With Blackjack Dealers. Anyone care to flirt with the type of dealer who would deep slice and disfigure another woman for life? Anyone want to flirt with her about in what sort of background she learned such values and actions?

Well......you are there to gamble.

Brings new meaning to the expression " dying to date her" .

And to "femme fatale."

As was anticipated clothing found in the defendant's apartment contained copious amounts of blood linked to the dead ten year old girl and the defendant Bellagio dealer will therefore be charged with kidnapping and murder. Dealer is said to have been dating the girl's father for four years and to have referred to as her step mother.

No further details released about nature or extent of phone calls between the two female dealers or further motivation for the slicing attack that took place at about 9:45pm in BJ pit 2 opposite the entrance to the Bellagio Bar at which a player wrestled her to the ground and awaited security intervention.

Upscale? No guarantees anywhere.

LVRJ feature:

Although the official records were drowned long ago by Hurricane Katrina it seems the entire town of Moss Point knew of the defendant having laced her bed with razor blades so as to have one handy when her former lover came calling on what was to be his wedding day to another woman. As might be expected the target of the attack was not his face. Many people in town are reported to describe it as darn near severed.

It seems the father of the dead girl in Vegas had been told many times of the incident that took place in Moss Point, MS and therefore was aware that the blackjack dealer had a tendency to settle disputes with razors. No indication if he knew of the dealer's prior act at McCarren Airport wherein a supervisor received a hot pot of coffee to her head.

Quote: FleaStiff

LVRJ feature:

Although the official records were drowned long ago by Hurricane Katrina it seems the entire town of Moss Point knew of the defendant having laced her bed with razor blades so as to have one handy when her former lover came calling on what was to be his wedding day to another woman. As might be expected the target of the attack was not his face. Many people in town are reported to describe it as darn near severed.

It seems the father of the dead girl in Vegas had been told many times of the incident that took place in Moss Point, MS and therefore was aware that the blackjack dealer had a tendency to settle disputes with razors. No indication if he knew of the dealer's prior act at McCarren Airport wherein a supervisor received a hot pot of coffee to her head.

I'm just amazed she passed the background checks.

I am too.
I know people who went to dealer school, only to find themselves unemployable for misdemeanors of a violent nature that popped up from the past on their records. How she made it to the Bellagio, and slashed a fellow dealer in the face right in the pit, and murdered a child, is unfathomable.

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I know people who went to dealer school, only to find themselves unemployable for misdemeanors of a violent nature that popped up from the past on their records.

Some dealers find themselves out for bankruptcies, some for events from long ago, many for trivial offenses compared to the nature of the assault that took place at the Bellagio.

It is true that some events such as the coffee server incident may have been obscured by anger management counseling programs or the like but usually the sheriff's background checks find everything.

I would of course like to think that the Belaggio checks were far more thorough based on the prices and reputation involved, but it seems internal transfers can be a way of evading review from time to time.

Irrespective of Katrina-drowned arrest reports, one wonders what the common knowledge of half the town was toward the nearly severed member. Such things usually get a great deal of discussion. The incident was even a frequent topic of conversation amongst the parties involved in the Bellagio incident. So its news to the general public and I would hope news to the Bellagio but its not in any respect whatsoever news to the people involved.

I think somewhere a sheriff's deputy is madly scrambling to review a file and see how things happened.

Nevada has Wobblies. Crimes that are charged as felonies but become Gross Misdemeanors upon successful drug court completion. This avoids a career killing felony conviction. And of course Hurricane Katrina's disruption made the defendant's description of the incident "self defense" versus planned dismemberment a factor, however its clear that the system has weaknesses.

How many half drunk gamblers want to see a name plate that reads Lorena Bobbitt? Of course they would probably finish their drink before the long ago newspaper headlines about penis slashing came to mind, but how many would like this to take place at an upscale hotel?

Recently it was a domestic violence shooting incident at Excalibur, then it became a razor attack on a female Blackjack dealer at the upscale Bellagio and now it seems to be the Circus Circus casino that is getting the incidents but avoiding much of the media storm.

Dec 31st. 9:20am. Forcible rape of young teenage boy by Saudi Arabian sergeant. Apparently a case of snatched from hotel corridor and "accidentally" raped by drunk sergeant under the influence of the boy's witchcraft.

New Years: Man fired one round into floor inside Circus Circus at very crowded time. Gun and perpetrator seized immediately with assistance of two off-duty correctional officers one of whom is thought to have been involved in verbal altercation with shooter.

Major theme at Circus Circus: Media downplay. Terse news releases.

Quote: FleaStiff

Dec 31st. 9:20am. Forcible rape of young teenage boy by Saudi Arabian sergeant. Apparently a case of snatched from hotel corridor and "accidentally" raped by drunk sergeant under the influence of the boy's witchcraft.

Vegas is NOT Disney world. It really isn't a destination for kids. Circus Circus is one of the last casino's holding on to that 'family and kid friendly attractions', everyone else gave up on that. Vegas is adults gambling and drinking and drinking and drinking and being stupid, not to mention all the thieves and scammers. Who ever came up with the idea that this was a place to bring the family and kids???? Every time I am on the strip and see a family, especially with young kids in tow, pushing throw all the porn slappers and drunken college guys and club goes, I just cringe. I feel so bad for the kids.

Now that said, certainly the teen boy didn't deserve this. But sadly it's just another case of the two worlds that shouldn't mix.

The Post Crescent of Appleton, Wisconsin reports that deputy sheriffs arrested each of two strippers, one of them pregnant, who fought over a one dollar bill a customer had attempted to give to one of the strippers in a strip club near Juneau, Wisconsin.

I guess if strippers will fight on stage over a one dollar bill, then perhaps Blackjack dealers will fight over the events both real and imagined that take place in their love lives.

The Post Crescent of Appleton, Wisconsin reports that deputy sheriffs arrested each of two strippers, one of them pregnant, who fought over a one dollar bill a customer had attempted to give to one of the strippers in a strip club near Juneau, Wisconsin.

I guess if strippers will fight on stage over a one dollar bill, then perhaps Blackjack dealers will fight over the events both real and imagined that take place in their love lives. Still, I view it as management's job to keep such battling broads off the stage and off the premises, no matter how much the men in the strip club may have enjoyed the fight. Those who would fight particularly over a dollar bill are not welcome among the customers.