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FarFromVegas
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October 17th, 2012 at 3:13:45 PM permalink
Quote: Scotty71

I don't know if why your family status is or your sex or orientation kids etc... but when I went to get snipped (my choice as it is safer than tubal ligation), my wife was required to sign off on the paperwork. That sounds like women making decisions about my reproductive rights (sniff sniff). Its about power Wong, plain and simple. You made it clear in an earlier post you had an issue with the Catholic Church's view on condoms. Do you think condom use will increase when you can roll down to the convenience store and get day after pills like aspirin...it wont because it feels better without condoms and their not 100%, so "f*ck that" your daughter or son will say - "skip the condom and just take the pill"...that is what will happen over time
however
Making abortions illegal would be a dumb idea IMO, you'll never hear me advocate that. Encouraging better family planning, yes that is important. Our society is on a bad path... if you have kids( especially a daughter) you probably worry more as I do. I have told my daughter she CAN DO ANYTHING she wants but she CANT DO EVERYTHING. The myth of the superwoman is just as false as the myth of the super man.



I didn't have to sign anything when my husband got snipped. I don't know what's up with your doctor.
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1BB
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October 17th, 2012 at 3:29:03 PM permalink
I'm guessing the lawyers?
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AZDuffman
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October 17th, 2012 at 4:39:46 PM permalink
Quote: FarFromVegas

I didn't have to sign anything when my husband got snipped. I don't know what's up with your doctor.



I have heard of doctors refusing to snip a person if they are not a certain age. May be state laws or an ethics code.

Fwiw the people who make the "if men could get pregnant...." seems to be made by women who wish they were men or men who wish they were women.
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thecesspit
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October 17th, 2012 at 4:43:38 PM permalink
The "if men could get pregnant" line is a bit daft anyways... one of the defining differences between men and woman (and hence the cultural differences between the two) is that one bares the children and the other doesn't.... so if men could get pregnant... women would have the top jobs and the greater part of the wealth and power.
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Scotty71
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October 17th, 2012 at 4:44:05 PM permalink
II thought of that and it tells me their is liability- they usually don't draft legal forms if their isn't a precedent. I found it odd myself.
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WongBo
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October 17th, 2012 at 6:14:08 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I have heard of doctors refusing to snip a person if they are not a certain age. May be state laws or an ethics code.

Fwiw the people who make the "if men could get pregnant...." seems to be made by women who wish they were men or men who wish they were women.



If this snide remark is directed at me, I can assure you I have no desire to be a woman.
Your original answer to it was extremely naive, bordering on absurd,
so I am not surprised that you are now trying again...
Still failing, still sexist, still clueless...

I stand by the comment.
I am nearly 100% sure that if by some fluke of nature
it were possible that a man were to wake up pregnant tomorrow
He would be seeking an abortion before noon.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
AZDuffman
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October 17th, 2012 at 7:11:49 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

If this snide remark is directed at me, I can assure you I have no desire to be a woman.
Your original answer to it was extremely naive, bordering on absurd,
so I am not surprised that you are now trying again...
Still failing, still sexist, still clueless...

I stand by the comment.
I am nearly 100% sure that if by some fluke of nature
it were possible that a man were to wake up pregnant tomorrow
He would be seeking an abortion before noon.



I stand by my comment. Take from it what you like.

I stand by that men are more logic based in decisions and responsibility so if your silly comment was true men would be far less likely for an unplanned pregnancy. If you could today make a male birth control pill you would make billions.
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WongBo
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October 17th, 2012 at 7:20:56 PM permalink
Interestingly, most states have concluded that an unplanned pregnancy is at least partially a man's responsibility.
How in all of his logic and responsibility, does a man end up on the hook for child support for eighteen years?
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
thecesspit
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October 17th, 2012 at 7:25:06 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I stand by my comment. Take from it what you like.

I stand by that men are more logic based in decisions and responsibility so if your silly comment was true men would be far less likely for an unplanned pregnancy. If you could today make a male birth control pill you would make billions.



That pill is in development :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19281690

I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader if they think men are more or less likely to take the pill than a woman.
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rxwine
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October 17th, 2012 at 7:25:13 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I stand by that men are more logic based in decisions and responsibility so if your silly comment was true men would be far less likely for an unplanned pregnancy.



Yeah sure, that's why prisons are much more full of responsible men to women (5 to1 or around), teenage boys have the highest car insurance rates.

What are you basing your premise on?
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