Remember When
I loved being a kid.Quote: AZDuffmanI really hated being a kid.
Quote: AxelWolfI loved being a kid.
Is that why you have hung on to it for decades now? ;)
Quote: AxelWolfI loved being a kid.
Not me, I hated restrictions.
Hated school, way to boring
and I wasn't a social person.
I like doing what I want and
have never played well with
others.
Quote: EvenBobNot me, I hated restrictions.
Hated school, way to boring
and I wasn't a social person.
I like doing what I want and
have never played well with
others.
Sounds like we are long lost brothers. Being a kid was awful. Could not do things and the adults were always doing something better. I was always more interested in what the adults were talking about. Some of it helped me later in life as I remembered the lessons. My grandmother especially always said, "when you grow up you will wish you were back in school!" Not once have I ever wished that. I did almost zero in after school stuff and never looked back.
My hating being a kid absolutely is most of the reason I never wanted to have kids in life. Not for a minute. I would never put someone thru that.
Nothing wrong with that....Quote: kewljIs that why you have hung on to it for decades now? ;)
Quote: AZDuffmanMy grandmother especially always said, "when you grow up you will wish you were back in school!" Not once have I ever wished that.
That's because outside school their
lives were filled with chores and
work. School was a respite from
all that.
Quote: EvenBobThat's because outside school their
lives were filled with chores and
work. School was a respite from
all that.
Not so sure on that one. She was more a just enjoy your childhood type. My dad had the line, "just concentrate on having fun, all you have to worry about." But being a kid was little fun. I'd look out the window at school and someone working and think how much better that would be.
The school I did not hate was when we were doing self-directed learning. It was not often, but sometimes we were let loose. They would give us X many math concepts to work. Do it, turn it in, fix what you got wrong, repeat. Or some reading classes we had X to read and take a short quiz on. That was nice, not bothered by anyone.
Really, school in the USA is just to break you and turn you into someone who will sit and work all day. This is unnatural so they take 12 years to break you. Think about it. In K half the half a day you are there is play, but you have to sit and listen and work at your desk the other part. Eventually you are sitting in rows and listening all day.
Quote: gamerfreakI was watching a movie from the 70’s or 80’s and had never seen this device that a secretary warmed her boss’s coffee up with.
Apparently they were popular back in the day. I can’t imagine sticking a 120v power cord in my drink.
I had one of those in my college dorm. Microwaves and hot plates were not allowed so if you wanted some hot soup that is what you used.
Quote: DRichQuote: gamerfreakI was watching a movie from the 70’s or 80’s and had never seen this device that a secretary warmed her boss’s coffee up with.
Apparently they were popular back in the day. I can’t imagine sticking a 120v power cord in my drink.
I had one of those in my college dorm. Microwaves and hot plates were not allowed so if you wanted some hot soup that is what you used.
Yup. They were still used because they were convenient, not because they were safe.
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I saw an interview with Eva Marie Saint.
she said that she and the rest of the cast had not idea how great and important a movie it would come to be considered
Quote: AZDuffmanBut being a kid was little fun.
I came from a lower middle class broken home. Even so, all I can remember from childhood was fun! Go to school. Find it easy. Play either basketball or football or playground hockey or paddleball football or stickball virtually EVERY day after school and weekends.
Frankly, maybe I am just lucky, or maybe just a good attitude, but I’ve enjoyed every stage of my life. Kid, college, med school, career, raise kids, divorce, single!, remarry, retire. ALL good!
Quote: SOOPOOI came from a lower middle class broken home. Even so, all I can remember from childhood was fun! Go to school. Find it easy. Play either basketball or football or playground hockey or paddleball football or stickball virtually EVERY day after school and weekends.
Frankly, maybe I am just lucky, or maybe just a good attitude, but I’ve enjoyed every stage of my life. Kid, college, med school, career, raise kids, divorce, single!, remarry, retire. ALL good!
I am thinking it must all be relative. I grew up in a middle class / upper middle class family where we always had everything that we needed. I also played sports everyday after school and had many friends. Yet, I don't remember having a happy childhood, Honestly, I don't remember any part of my life being particularly happy. There were happy moments but never what I would consider happy times. That is why I am guessing everything is happy is such a relative term. I live a much better life than most people but I still don't think that I am happy.
Quote: SOOPOOI came from a lower middle class broken home. Even so, all I can remember from childhood was fun! Go to school. Find it easy. Play either basketball or football or playground hockey or paddleball football or stickball virtually EVERY day after school and weekends.
Frankly, maybe I am just lucky, or maybe just a good attitude, but I’ve enjoyed every stage of my life. Kid, college, med school, career, raise kids, divorce, single!, remarry, retire. ALL good!
I was born at the very trough of the baby bust of the late 60s/ear;y 70s so there were very few kids in the neighborhood. Those that were there were very bad. My family is one of the few that the kids were not a total disaster. One ended up in the river when he crossed some dope dealers. Another ended up a CI on the street, that was years ago he might be dead by now. Two more were total disasters. And one block over the kids hated us for reasons we never knew.
The steel industry crashed around us so we were in half a depression always worried about things going south. As I said, school was prison to me, albeit minimum security in the federal system level. But the thing is I just did not like "kid stuff." I preferred listening to the men talk about the mill or shop to conversations kids had. I read the football lines in the paper but had no guidance to what they meant. I had no interest in any extracurricular school activity. I just wanted to get out of there as fast as possible.
Some psych student might be reading this and want to make me a semester project.
Quote: DRichI am thinking it must all be relative. I grew up in a middle class / upper middle class family where we always had everything that we needed.
I was in the city till I was 10, then we
moved here, to the country. There
was nothing but farm houses out
here in 1960, now it's all half a
million dollar estates, some over
a million. A $500K house here
would be $4 mil in NYC, $2 mil
in LA, at least $1.5 mil in Vegas.
Living in the country means as
a kid finding ways to entertain
yourself cause other kids in the
area are hard to find. I still live
in the same house, I bought it
from my dad in 84. Lived here
off and on for 61 years, but
I've changed so much the
house feels totally different
than it did 60 years ago. The
other day I found something
my mom bought in the 50's
in the back of the linen closet.
Weird.
I'm fairly certain there are drugs for that.Quote: DRichI am thinking it must all be relative. I grew up in a middle class / upper middle class family where we always had everything that we needed. I also played sports everyday after school and had many friends. Yet, I don't remember having a happy childhood, Honestly, I don't remember any part of my life being particularly happy. There were happy moments but never what I would consider happy times. That is why I am guessing everything is happy is such a relative term. I live a much better life than most people but I still don't think that I am happy.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm fairly certain there are drugs for that.
It is why there are drugs. People think life is supposed to be happy, but it is rarely happy.
Quote: AZDuffmanPeople think life is supposed to be happy, but it is rarely happy.
Who ever told you THAT?
Quote: DRichI am thinking it must all be relative. I grew up in a middle class / upper middle class family where we always had everything that we needed. I also played sports everyday after school and had many friends. Yet, I don't remember having a happy childhood, Honestly, I don't remember any part of my life being particularly happy. There were happy moments but never what I would consider happy times. That is why I am guessing everything is happy is such a relative term. I live a much better life than most people but I still don't think that I am happy.
I am really sorry to hear you say this DRich. My father died when I was 7. I was homeless as I finished high school. I had heart surgeries when I was 28 and 34. My partner/spouse passed away when I was 35. Despite these sad times, I have had a very happy life. Life is what you make it. And if you are not happy, you should find what will make you happy. Everyone deserves to be happy.
Quote: kewljWho ever told you THAT?
Who has to tell you that? Happiness is about feeling better than average, which means you would be happy less than 50% of the time. Life is a slog. Life is usually boring. Just get thru the day. Repetitive. People see life on TV and wonder why they are not living that way. So people turn to drugs to tune it out.
Quote: TumblingBonesRemember when Trump had casinos in AC? Just watched the live feed of the demolition. Amazing how they bring these towers down in such tight spaces.
Saw it. Notice how one side blew a split second before the second. Like a lumberjack who takes a notch out of the opposite side of a tree then gets it to fall where he wants.
Quote: kewljWho ever told you THAT?
Are you kidding? Only every episode
of every sitcom since the 50's. They
all have happy endings where every
problem of every kind is happily
resolved. Even most drama shows
have satisfactory endings where
the bad guy is punished and the
good guy thrives. The total opposite
of real life. Ever watch Live PD or
COPS? The huge number of people
using narcotics? Their lives aren't
working out like they see on TV so
they need to be high all the time.
it was a national thing for married
couples to go to bed at 11:30 and
watch Carson's monologue and
then go to sleep. And discuss it
over the water cooler at work the
next day.
Quote: EvenBobRemember when in the 60's and 70's
it was a national thing for married
couples to go to bed at 11:30 and
watch Carson's monologue and
then go to sleep. And discuss it
over the water cooler at work the
next day.
I do remember that and can't imagine how working people stayed up that late. On most days my wife and I are in bed at 8pm.
Quote: DRichI do remember that and can't imagine how working people stayed up that late. On most days my wife and I are in bed at 8pm.
8pm? Do you get up at 5am, then?
I haven't been to bed before 11pm
since 4th grade.
Quote: EvenBob8pm? Do you get up at 5am, then?
I haven't been to bed before 11pm
since 4th grade.
I usually get up between 5am and 6am. I usually watch some sporting event until I fall asleep. Although I go to bed by 8pm, I am usually awake until 9:30pm. My wife falls asleep by 8:30pm and gets up at 3;30am.
Quote: EvenBob8pm? Do you get up at 5am, then?
I haven't been to bed before 11pm
since 4th grade.
That is about my natural state. I wake up 5ish all the time, beat by 8. Definitely a morning person.
Quote: AZDuffmanThat is about my natural state. I wake up 5ish all the time, beat by 8. Definitely a morning person.
Hemingway used to say he'd seen every
sunrise of his life. I've seen none, I never
go to bed before 3 am. I get my best
work done at night. It's quiet and
uneventful. Forever people all over
the world slept in shifts. In segments.
They would go to bed at sundown,
sleep till midnight, and get up for
2 hours and do chores, visit with
neighbors, eat, and have sex. Then
sleep till dawn. The lightbulb changed
all that in the cities and gradually in
the rural areas.
Quote: EvenBobHemingway used to say he'd seen every
sunrise of his life. I've seen none, I never
go to bed before 3 am. I get my best
work done at night. It's quiet and
uneventful. Forever people all over
the world slept in shifts. In segments.
They would go to bed at sundown,
sleep till midnight, and get up for
2 hours and do chores, visit with
neighbors, eat, and have sex. Then
sleep till dawn. The lightbulb changed
all that in the cities and gradually in
the rural areas.
Lately I am up at 5, 2.5 or so of breakfast and checking on what I check online. Then 30 mins to lie and just sort of meditate/relax. Then work. I start at 0930, way too late for me but it is what it is. After work my eyeballs are shot and I am worn out so I am ready for bed early. Strange part is I always never minded working nights. I just cannot do swing shift.
in the 50's and early 60's. We had
no money, he was a factory worker.
But cars were built so poorly then,
even a Cadillac was worth only a
few hundred if it was 5 or 6 years
old. So we had a 49, a 52, a 54,
a 58, and the last was a 62. Great
cars, leather interior, power windows
and seats, huge engines, and back
seats so big it was ridiculous. This
is what a 58 looked like, he always
bought the DeVille's because they
were cheaper.
Quote: EvenBobMy dad drove nothing but Cadillac's
in the 50's and early 60's. We had
no money, he was a factory worker.
But cars were built so poorly then,
even a Cadillac was worth only a
few hundred if it was 5 or 6 years
old. So we had a 49, a 52, a 54,
a 58, and the last was a 62. Great
cars, leather interior, power windows
and seats, huge engines, and back
seats so big it was ridiculous. This
is what a 58 looked like, he always
bought the DeVille's because they
were cheaper.
When I was a kid that is what my grandfather drove. He sole one to his daughter and then her husband bought another one. Three Coupe DeVilles in the driveway, 69-72. As a little kid I thought nothing of it. When we were leaving his dog jumped in the wrong one so he told the dog, "Get out of there, right model, wrong year!"
When I was younger I still wanted one, then they changed so much I no longer did. Though I still would like one of those old monster size convertibles.
Quote: AZDuffman"
When I was younger I still wanted one, then they changed so much I no longer did. Though I still would like one of those old monster size convertibles.
I bought one Cadillac and it was a piece of junk. I have bought about 15 new cars in my life and the Cadillac was by far the worst. It was a 1990 Allante and the car had major issues until I sold it in 1996 or so. It was a $53,000 car and when I sold it I got about $4,000.
Quote: DRichI bought one Cadillac and it was a piece of junk. I have bought about 15 new cars in my life and the Cadillac was by far the worst. It was a 1990 Allante and the car had major issues until I sold it in 1996 or so. It was a $53,000 car and when I sold it I got about $4,000.
The Cadillac Allante was not much more than a polished up Chevy Cavalier. Almost put the company out of business.
Quote: zippyboyThe Cadillac Allante was not much more than a polished up Chevy Cavalier. Almost put the company out of business.
You are thinking the Cimarron.
The Allante I liked but the marketing was messed up. They made it out to be some kind of German road machine. It was just a highway cruiser. I still like the looks but I saw how hard it is to put the top up and down so it is kind of off my dream car list.
On that note last year this time I won a TV at work. I, one scrawny guy carried it into the house. 51" or so set. In 2003 I bought a 51" and two big umphs had to bring it in the house.
Quote: AZDuffman
The Allante I liked but the marketing was messed up. They made it out to be some kind of German road machine. It was just a highway cruiser. I still like the looks but I saw how hard it is to put the top up and down so it is kind of off my dream car list.
They were trying to compete with the Mercedes SL convertible. I didn't have many problems with the soft top and didn't think it was hard to operate. I also had the hard top for it and that required two people to put it on unless you had the winch system in your garage.
Quote: DRichThey were trying to compete with the Mercedes SL convertible. I didn't have many problems with the soft top and didn't think it was hard to operate. I also had the hard top for it and that required two people to put it on unless you had the winch system in your garage.
I saw it worked in a video and sorry but it it is not latch-latch-switch it is too complicated. My dad had a '47 Series 62 and it was one latch then flip the switch. 40 years later they had all kinds of crazy steps. Why?
Quote: AZDuffmanThough I still would like one of those old monster size convertibles.
If you've never driven one the older
ones, they literally float down
the road. You feel nothing from
the highway, like you do in a
modern car. It's like the road
is made out of Charmin Extra
Soft. Which, btw, if you've ever
used on your delicate bum, will
spoil you forever on TP. It's all
my wife buys, and I'm not allowed
to use it if I'm at her house. Too
expensive. I buy the Scott 1000
sheet rolls, you can still see the
wood chips if you hold it up to
the light.. Find an article on what
people used to wipe their asses
with before TP. It's truly frightening.
Quote: DRichI bought one Cadillac and it was a piece of junk
I owned one Caddy. In Calif it
was the first car I bought in 76,
a 69 Coupe DeVille. I think it
was $500. Put nothing into
it and sold it 6 months later
for $400. Hugely fast car for
it's size, smooth ride, like
a magic carpet..
Quote: EvenBobIf you've never driven one the older
ones, they literally float down
the road. You feel nothing from
the highway, like you do in a
modern car. It's like the road
is made out of Charmin Extra
Soft. Which, btw, if you've ever
used on your delicate bum, will
spoil you forever on TP. It's all
my wife buys, and I'm not allowed
to use it if I'm at her house. Too
expensive. I buy the Scott 1000
sheet rolls, you can still see the
wood chips if you hold it up to
the light.. Find an article on what
people used to wipe their asses
with before TP. It's truly frightening.
That is what I want! FWIW I think these cars have a special place in automotive history. They show just how excessive America had become by 1970. On one hand, you just look like someone important in them. OTOH, they got 9 mpg and you can imaging people driving down the highway just throwing trash out the window until that crying Indian showed how bad littering was. They were the peak of longer-lower-wider. And they showed a man had made it to the big time.
Quote: AZDuffmanAnd they showed a man had made it to the big time.
My dad never owned a car before
1950, he was 35. He just never
needed a car before then, many
people didn't. I think he got
the 49 Caddy in 54. It had
an automatic tranny which was
a big deal. On weekends the
hood was always up on whatever
Caddy he had, working on it.
Something always had to be
fixed in those days. In those
days 75K on the odometer was
a high mileage car. You rarely
saw one make it to 100K.
Quote: AZDuffmanThat is what I want! FWIW I think these cars have a special place in automotive history. They show just how excessive America had become by 1970.
In 1992 I bought at a farm auction a 1969 Chrysler Newport.
I paid $300 because it didn't have a battery in it and nobody
knew if it ran or not. It had 60,000 miles on it and no rust. I
put a battery in it and drove it home and drove it in the
summer for the next 3 years. It had a 428 under the hood
and it went like a raped ape, as we used to say. It was a giant
car and it floated down the road like a cloud.
One day I was driving through my bank's parking lot and
some woman in a Honda backed out really fast into my
front bumper. I got out and saw her rear end assembly
was laying in the parking lot. On the Chrysler, I swear this
is true, on the bumper there was not even a scratch. It was
one of those giant smooth 1960s chrome bumpers that
weighed half as much as her car did. I was totally impressed.
After 3 years the brakes started to go and I took it in for
an estimate, the whole brake system needs to be replaced.
The guy quoted me $1,000 if he could find the parts. I
ended up selling it for the engine the some gut for $500.
Quote: EvenBobMy dad never owned a car before
1950, he was 35. He just never
needed a car before then, many
people didn't. I think he got
the 49 Caddy in 54. It had
an automatic tranny which was
a big deal. On weekends the
hood was always up on whatever
Caddy he had, working on it.
Something always had to be
fixed in those days. In those
days 75K on the odometer was
a high mileage car. You rarely
saw one make it to 100K.
Until the early 1980s 100K was hard to hit. The cars rusted and after 70000 miles lots of things broke. But you really drove less. Even when I was a kid 100 miles could seem like a long trip. Now I have had 80 mile commutes and done courier work taking me a couple hundred miles and thought not a thing about it. In Phoenix I commuted across the metro, luckily it was a 4/10s type schedule.
Quote: AZDuffmanUntil the early 1980s 100K was hard to hit. The cars rusted and after 70000 miles lots of things broke. But you really drove less. Even when I was a kid 100 miles could seem like a long trip. Now I have had 80 mile commutes and done courier work taking me a couple hundred miles and thought not a thing about it. In Phoenix I commuted across the metro, luckily it was a 4/10s type schedule.
If you didn't live near a sea costal area or deal with yearly salting of the roads for winter you could avoid the rust issue. On the other hand, if you had a dry heat like the desert your interior could be drying and cracking.
Quote: rxwineIf you didn't live near a sea costal area or deal with yearly salting of the roads for winter you could avoid the rust issue. On the other hand, if you had a dry heat like the desert your interior could be drying and cracking.
I had a Mazda Miata back in the early 1990's and it had a plastic rear window. The Las Vegas heat discolored it and it eventually cracked. The car was still under warranty but the dealer tried to say it wasn't covered. I sent the report to MazdaUSA with pictures and they said that they have never had that problem. Apparently there were not many of them in Las Vegas. Mazda ended up paying to replace it under warranty.
Quote: rxwineIf you didn't live near a sea costal area or deal with yearly salting of the roads for winter you could avoid the rust issue. On the other hand, if you had a dry heat like the desert your interior could be drying and cracking.
We had a 76 LTD wagon. Ran good but rusted like you would not believe. I am talking rust holes before 3 years old! We drove it to Florida and saw many like it with good bodies. My dad considered flying down or bussing down for free as far as GA or the Carolinas and buying one as it was far cheaper than getting something newer. Never came to anything.
Here is an explanation.
Quote:You are correct that cars do rust more in coastal locations than in inland places. It's true that "sea air" contains many minute salt particles, and those salt particles do cause accelerated rusting of automobile bodies exposed to that air. Sea air is salty for the same reason that ocean water is salty: When water evaporates, its load of dissolved salt is left behind. Sea air is salty because spray from ocean waves is constantly becoming airborne, and when those droplets of spray evaporate, they leave their dissolved salt behind — floating in the air. It's a serious problem in coastal locations, but it's something that is overlooked.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/weather/ct-wea-0906-asktom-20150904-column.html
Florida is still plenty big that you can live here and not be exposed to lots of salt.
Quote: AZDuffmanUntil the early 1980s 100K was hard to hit. The cars rusted and after 70000 miles lots of things broke.
People don't realize that in 1965 you
were not driving a 55 Chevy if you
lived back East. A used car was 4-5
years old and bought cheap. In
HS in 1966 I was driving a 1960
Dodge and it was considered
ancient. 65K miles. Today a car
like that, 6 years old, is just getting
broken in at 60K. When I had the
cab co in the early 80's we got
used cop cars when they had 80K
on them. The only way to get high
mileage was to change the oil
once a week and have 2 full time
mechanics constantly working
on them.
Quote: EvenBobPeople don't realize that in 1965 you
were not driving a 55 Chevy if you
lived back East. A used car was 4-5
years old and bought cheap. In
HS in 1966 I was driving a 1960
Dodge and it was considered
ancient. 65K miles. Today a car
like that, 6 years old, is just getting
broken in at 60K. When I had the
cab co in the early 80's we got
used cop cars when they had 80K
on them. The only way to get high
mileage was to change the oil
once a week and have 2 full time
mechanics constantly working
on them.
Yet now people waste so much money on cars. The Karens of the world think they have to keep leasing every 3 years or else they will not be "safe." Who would have thought of 6 year loans even in the 80s? And now people are taking 84 month loans! 15 years ago when I did 18 months in auto finance it was scary what people paid for cars. How much of their take home they were willing to lay out. I cannot imagine it is getting better.
My next car may be new as if I buy new it will be probably one of the last 2 cars in my life so I may let myself enjoy. But only if I can pay cash.
everybody from that era remembers bell bottoms
but how many remember these................................................𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘯𝘦𝘤𝘬 𝘵𝘦𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘳𝘵𝘴........................?
I had 4 or 5 of the ugly a** things......................................................................................................................................................(~:\
Quote: AZDuffmanYet now people waste so much money on cars. The Karens of the world think they have to keep leasing every 3 years or else they will not be "safe."
I am one of those people that gets a new car every 3 years or so. I don't splurge on a lot but on cars and houses I do. I only drive about 7000 miles a year and I don't think that I have ever put more than 40,000 miles on any car that I have ever had. My current daily driver is leased and is almost 3 years old. I will most likely get a new one this year. For me, the $197 a month I spend for it is well worth it.
