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EvenBob
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September 27th, 2020 at 1:18:05 PM permalink
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Well, yeah, membership in the mafia let most guys live well back then.



I worked in an adult bookstore
peep show for a year, owned
by the West coast Mafia. They
came in once a week and
emptied the quarters out
of the movie machines. Took
a hand truck to take them
out to the van. They had a
string of stores on the coast.

They actually had nicknames
just like in the movies. Never
any last names. Very professional,
never had any trouble with
them. Best job I ever had as
far as getting paid to sit there
and read books all day. We
had a pay phone in the store
and to get ahold of them we
called a number that changed
all the time. They would answer
by saying 'Identify yourself'.
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AZDuffman
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September 27th, 2020 at 2:41:44 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I worked in an adult bookstore
peep show for a year, owned
by the West coast Mafia. They
came in once a week and
emptied the quarters out
of the movie machines. Took
a hand truck to take them
out to the van. They had a
string of stores on the coast.

They actually had nicknames
just like in the movies. Never
any last names. Very professional,
never had any trouble with
them. Best job I ever had as
far as getting paid to sit there
and read books all day. We
had a pay phone in the store
and to get ahold of them we
called a number that changed
all the time. They would answer
by saying 'Identify yourself'.




Joe Pistone said they would empty the money, add the product, give the owner whatever his cut was, and be on their way.
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billryan
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September 27th, 2020 at 2:42:05 PM permalink
When I lived in Fort Lauderdale I responded to an ad for an overnite clerk in an adult bookstore. It wasn't really clerking, you were part security, part changemaker. I didn't understand until the guy took me into the backroom where there was a maze of cubicles, each about four feet by six feet. Place smelled terrible and I was losing interest when he said I would also be required to wipe down every booth after the fellow occupying it exited. I told him I thought I might be a bit over-qualified for the job and we parted ways.
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September 27th, 2020 at 2:47:49 PM permalink
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exited. I told him I thought I might be a bit over-qualified for the job and we parted ways.

g9od for you.
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EvenBob
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September 27th, 2020 at 7:24:34 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Joe Pistone said they would empty the money, add the product, give the owner whatever his cut was, and be on their way.



Yup. They emptied he machines,
gave me boxes of XXX mags
and sex toys for under the
counter, and left. Just a job
for them. It was always 3
men, 2 on the machines and
1 by the door with a gun in
a shoulder holster. Looked
bored to death. Real life
mobsters lead a very boring
existence.
The biggest buyers
of the toys were women and
young college girls. Great
job..

That was 45 years ago. I looked
at Google maps of Santa Barbara
a couple years ago and the store
is still there, still called The Adult
Store and probably still owned
by the Mob.
Last edited by: EvenBob on Sep 27, 2020
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billryan
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September 27th, 2020 at 9:44:03 PM permalink
Guys servicing porno shops aren't mobsters. They are mooks who work for a mobster. They may work their way up, but what they are doing is far more work than a mobbed-up guy would do. On the East Coast, a made guy might have a dozen revenue streams with dozens of employees. Just as you worked in a mobbed-up place but weren't a mobster, the guys collecting quarters and answering phones were only one rung up the ladder. Go up a few more rungs, and you are wearing thousand-dollar suits and having five-hour lunches. When you aren't serving a sentence upstate, that is.
EvenBob
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September 27th, 2020 at 10:26:17 PM permalink
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Guys servicing porno shops aren't mobsters.



They had Mob nicknames, were middle
aged, and at least one always had a
gun. I don't care what their rank was,
they were mobbed up. They all had
heavy East coast accents too. They
weren't mean or rude or nasty, but
they had a 'don't mess with me' aura.
Like Chili Palmer in Get Shorty. But
not as cool as John Travolta.
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AZDuffman
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September 28th, 2020 at 3:01:03 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Guys servicing porno shops aren't mobsters. They are mooks who work for a mobster. They may work their way up, but what they are doing is far more work than a mobbed-up guy would do. On the East Coast, a made guy might have a dozen revenue streams with dozens of employees. Just as you worked in a mobbed-up place but weren't a mobster, the guys collecting quarters and answering phones were only one rung up the ladder. Go up a few more rungs, and you are wearing thousand-dollar suits and having five-hour lunches. When you aren't serving a sentence upstate, that is.



Maybe a capo would not do this work himself, but plenty of made guys would. How else do you know you are not getting robbed? In "Donnie Brasco" he said how made guys had routes like this.

He did also say mob life is exceptionally boring. In the end they mostly are doing a job like anyone else and their life is the same repetition. Same hassles as even in the life of a racketter you have people involved that do not do things as they need to be done. In the end that is what I hated about running a business. Simple things getting done wrong all the time that you gotta watch every minute and clean up after.

Low level made guys have to do low level work like collecting on their route. Low level made guys do not usually live a great life, often it is not much better than a working stiff despite what you see in the movies and on TV.
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AZDuffman
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September 28th, 2020 at 3:06:02 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Yup. They emptied he machines,
gave me boxes of XXX mags
and sex toys for under the
counter, and left. Just a job
for them. It was always 3
men, 2 on the machines and
1 by the door with a gun in
a shoulder holster. Looked
bored to death. Real life
mobsters lead a very boring
existence.
The biggest buyers
of the toys were women and
young college girls. Great
job..

That was 45 years ago. I looked
at Google maps of Santa Barbara
a couple years ago and the store
is still there, still called The Adult
Store and probably still owned
by the Mob.



That has to be a business that just grinds a person down to nothing. I just heard a podcast about a guy was a DJ at a strip club. Thought it was a dream job but the guy he was replacing said he will hate life in 6 months. He was making a fortune as the girls had to kick up 10% of their tips with a certain minimum. With 20 or so girls and it all being cash his home safe was soon jammed full, But he did hate life! A few of the women seem to not mind the adult industry, the rest of the people seem to get addicted to the money and notice how low humanity really is.
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billryan
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September 28th, 2020 at 9:05:28 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Maybe a capo would not do this work himself, but plenty of made guys would. How else do you know you are not getting robbed? In "Donnie Brasco" he said how made guys had routes like this.

He did also say mob life is exceptionally boring. In the end they mostly are doing a job like anyone else and their life is the same repetition. Same hassles as even in the life of a racketter you have people involved that do not do things as they need to be done. In the end that is what I hated about running a business. Simple things getting done wrong all the time that you gotta watch every minute and clean up after.

Low level made guys have to do low level work like collecting on their route. Low level made guys do not usually live a great life, often it is not much better than a working stiff despite what you see in the movies and on TV.



There is no such thing as a low-level made guy. There are low-level guys and there are made guys. When the Gambinos were being brought down in Federal court, the evidence showed that while they had hundreds of low-level employees- there were less than two dozen actual made men. Carrying a gun doesn't make you a mobster.
People watch the Sopranos and think that's how the mafia works. At best, Tony Soprano ran a crew, not a family.

To give real life examples- John Gotti Jr ran numerous clubs in NYC and had coat check concessions in dozens more, but didn't become a made man until his dad went to prison for life. Carmine Agnello was married to Gotti's daughter and ran the immense Willets Point junk empire but never got made.

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