Remember When
My mother worked on and off as a secretary. I remember her typing on the old Royal manual typewriter Then later she worked a job with the ibm typewriter with the ball that rotated around. She no longer had to use white-out to correct mistakes. She also learned shorthand, and I remember seeing the books in the house.
Quote: rxwineYou had to walk a mile uphill both ways to use an old manual typewriter. Wouldn't even work if you didn't do that first. Pretty sure.
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Isaac Asimov published over 500 books in his lifetime. He typed so much he had four IBM selectric typewriters. He used one, one was always broken, one was always in the shop, and the fourth one was a spare. He just constantly rotated them. At one time he had 200 books in print, nobody has even come close to that, not even in the same stratosphere. He wrote mostly science books and he could write one in about 10 hours. Science fiction was the hardest took him 30 hours to write a science fiction book. Of course he had a mega genius IQ so the books were entirely written in his head before he started typing.
remembering before internet and cellphones
you weren't constantly bombarded with info
you likely read a newspaper in the morning that had about one one hundredth of the news that is easily accessible now
you didn't have easy access to tons of info but you really didn't care about that too much
if you needed to find something out you could go to the library
you didn't think to yourself - gee - if only I could have tons of info at my fingertips
the tv used to get about 7 channels
now on cable I get hundreds of channels that I never watch
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Quote: EvenBobI remember when the only place you ever heard cursing and swear words was in real life. You never heard it on TV or in the movies other than the standard non-swearing swear words like hell and damn. When I was a teenager we cursed a lot cuz it was fun and you couldn't do it at home, my parents never used curse words of any kind and nobody's parents did that I ever heard. I never heard the f word until I was 14 or 15 and I had no idea what it meant. But I sure used it a lot with my friends after that. Swearing was cool.
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A woman dropping f-bombs is a total turn-off. Even having gone MGTOW I still run into the occasional woman who I might have an interest in. Too often she then drops it. I use it so rarely that when I do it makes people notice, a useful thing actually. But I keep to the same code the mafia guys use, don't use it around women, don't tolerate women who use it.
Quote: EvenBobI remember when the only place you ever heard cursing and swear words was in real life. You never heard it on TV or in the movies other than the standard non-swearing swear words like hell and damn. When I was a teenager we cursed a lot cuz it was fun and you couldn't do it at home, my parents never used curse words of any kind and nobody's parents did that I ever heard. I never heard the f word until I was 14 or 15 and I had no idea what it meant. But I sure used it a lot with my friends after that. Swearing was cool.
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From a practical standpoint, little kids tend to repeat things they hear and use them at inappropriate times. So, basically, anything parents say might be repeated. My parents took us to church every week. They didn't want any of us repeating things they didn't want other people to hear.
Heck, my parents would "spell" words they didn't want me to know. Later, on, I remembered them doing this, but could no longer remember what they spelled.
repeating any kind of mildly bigoted stuff at all raises eyebrows with them ... like saying you had to dress up like an eskimo when it was cold one time
Quote: odiousgambitThe younger people today think nothing about using the f-bomb; I have nieces that will post [usually repost] f-bomb stuff on, say , Facebook that they know their elders will see ...... but they wouldn't dream of doing that with the n-word. So being scandalized by the latter thing seems to cause a vacuum and they swear away
repeating any kind of mildly bigoted stuff at all raises eyebrows with them ... like saying you had to dress up like an eskimo when it was cold one time
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One word insults a race of people, the other is a vulgar way to describe an act we all hope to do regularly. I don't see any equivalency between the two.
Quote: rxwineQuote: EvenBobI remember when the only place you ever heard cursing and swear words was in real life. You never heard it on TV or in the movies other than the standard non-swearing swear words like hell and damn. When I was a teenager we cursed a lot cuz it was fun and you couldn't do it at home, my parents never used curse words of any kind and nobody's parents did that I ever heard. I never heard the f word until I was 14 or 15 and I had no idea what it meant. But I sure used it a lot with my friends after that. Swearing was cool.
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From a practical standpoint, little kids tend to repeat things they hear and use them at inappropriate times. So, basically, anything parents say might be repeated. My parents took us to church every week. They didn't want any of us repeating things they didn't want other people to hear.
Heck, my parents would "spell" words they didn't want me to know. Later, on, I remembered them doing this, but could no longer remember what they spelled.
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I remember having to spell words are one the dog.
how about dressing like an 'Eskimo' or someone saying "My Dad fought the Japs" , that get your knickers in a knot?Quote: billryanQuote: odiousgambitThe younger people today think nothing about using the f-bomb; I have nieces that will post [usually repost] f-bomb stuff on, say , Facebook that they know their elders will see ...... but they wouldn't dream of doing that with the n-word. So being scandalized by the latter thing seems to cause a vacuum and they swear away
repeating any kind of mildly bigoted stuff at all raises eyebrows with them ... like saying you had to dress up like an eskimo when it was cold one time
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One word insults a race of people, the other is a vulgar way to describe an act we all hope to do regularly. I don't see any equivalency between the two.
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I suppose you could make a case that things are getting better based on this change
Call a native Alaskan an Eskimo, and you'll either be laughed at for your ignorance or punched in the face.
You didn't hear a lot of swearing on tv or in movies because they were heavily censored.
"Locker room " talk has been around for generations, as men spoke differently when they were around men than their families. I remember being a 13-year-old caddy when a cardiologist put a ball into a pond, and he used language I'd been led to believe wasn't acceptable in polite company.
Quote: odiousgambithow about dressing like an 'Eskimo' or someone saying "My Dad fought the Japs" , that get your knickers in a knot?Quote: billryanQuote: odiousgambitThe younger people today think nothing about using the f-bomb; I have nieces that will post [usually repost] f-bomb stuff on, say , Facebook that they know their elders will see ...... but they wouldn't dream of doing that with the n-word. So being scandalized by the latter thing seems to cause a vacuum and they swear away
repeating any kind of mildly bigoted stuff at all raises eyebrows with them ... like saying you had to dress up like an eskimo when it was cold one time
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One word insults a race of people, the other is a vulgar way to describe an act we all hope to do regularly. I don't see any equivalency between the two.
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I suppose you could make a case that things are getting better based on this change
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Hey, didn't you complain about being called the N word? The 4 letter word that ends in i? You gotta live by sword and die by sword.
Might not be you though. Not sure.
Quote: rxwineQuote: odiousgambithow about dressing like an 'Eskimo' or someone saying "My Dad fought the Japs" , that get your knickers in a knot?Quote: billryanQuote: odiousgambitThe younger people today think nothing about using the f-bomb; I have nieces that will post [usually repost] f-bomb stuff on, say , Facebook that they know their elders will see ...... but they wouldn't dream of doing that with the n-word. So being scandalized by the latter thing seems to cause a vacuum and they swear away
repeating any kind of mildly bigoted stuff at all raises eyebrows with them ... like saying you had to dress up like an eskimo when it was cold one time
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One word insults a race of people, the other is a vulgar way to describe an act we all hope to do regularly. I don't see any equivalency between the two.
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I suppose you could make a case that things are getting better based on this change
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Hey, didn't you complain about being called the N word? The 4 letter word that ends in i? You gotta live by sword and die by sword.
Might not be you though. Not sure.
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Nani?
I don't think it was me, since I can't think of any "The 4 letter word that ends in i" that would offend meQuote: rxwineHey, didn't you complain about being called the N word? The 4 letter word that ends in i? You gotta live by sword and die by sword.
Might not be you though. Not sure.
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I don't like being called any kind of Denier though
warning, anybody making a joke about "just not late to dinner" will get a 3 day suspension
Quote: EvenBobSoon restaurants won't be able to call themselves Chinese food or Japanese food or Indian food, it will all be Asian food and you get to guess what kind it is. An Italian restaurant will have to be called a European restaurant.
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You can call all the food you post, Chinese food. Fine with me. You can call yourself Chef Boyardee if you like. I don't know how the company will feel about, but I'm fine with it. You can call your cats "fine diners of exquisite food". if you want.
It's always bothered me that the most famous Italian Restaurant in America- Carmines- doesn't serve pizza or lasagna- two foods closely associated with Italian food.
Quote: billryanDo they still make Pace Car models? My friend's Dad bought a limited edition Buick Grand National one year ago and a Charger Daytona a few years later.
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I think that depends, sometimes yes but not like the old days. I think it is an SUV this year. Fun fact for a couple years nobody wanted to make one at all. I think at Indy one year a dealer had to provide cars, one of which crashed.
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remembering before internet and cellphones
you weren't constantly bombarded with info
you likely read a newspaper in the morning that had about one one hundredth of the news that is easily accessible now
you didn't have easy access to tons of info but you really didn't care about that too much
if you needed to find something out you could go to the library
you didn't think to yourself - gee - if only I could have tons of info at my fingertips
the tv used to get about 7 channels
now on cable I get hundreds of channels that I never watch
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I remember subscribing to two different newspapers because one was issued in the morning and the other came out in the afternoon.
We used to only get 4 TV channels.
Quote: DRichQuote: lilredrooster.
remembering before internet and cellphones
you weren't constantly bombarded with info
you likely read a newspaper in the morning that had about one one hundredth of the news that is easily accessible now
you didn't have easy access to tons of info but you really didn't care about that too much
if you needed to find something out you could go to the library
you didn't think to yourself - gee - if only I could have tons of info at my fingertips
the tv used to get about 7 channels
now on cable I get hundreds of channels that I never watch
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I remember subscribing to two different newspapers because one was issued in the morning and the other came out in the afternoon.
We used to only get 4 TV channels.
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In the 1950s we only got 2 channels, CBS and NBC. ABC did not come to town till 1960 and that was a huge deal. Three channels to watch, what a luxury. We watched CBS the most in 1960s. Andy Griffith, The Rifleman, Twilight Zone, Gilligan's Island, Green Acres, Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction, Mission Impossible, Dick Van Dyke Show, Gomer Pyle, Get Smart, My Three Sons, Gunsmoke, Smothers Brothers, Hogan's Heroes, Lost in Space, Rawhide, Route 66, Have Gun Will Travel. I loved every one of those shows, some of the best ever on television and it was 60 years ago.
The announcer has such an old-timey sound!
My dad and older brother were bowlers, so even though I grew up in the '70s, I read about pro bowlers like Don Carter, Dick Weber, and that young whippersnapper Earl Anthony. I watched the PBA Tour and saw Mark Roth convert a 7-10 split on live television. I saw the infamous final roll by Del Ballard Jr., needing 7 pins for the championship, dropping the ball into the gutter. On my first visit to Las Vegas, I was excited to be where the pro bowlers competed: the Showboat Casino.
Later, I had heard that televised bowling at one time had bigger ratings in college basketball. Fascinating how the nation's interest in sports has evolved. Now when I go to the lanes, I'm surprised to see many young people still enthusiastically bowling, Though I'm sure the number of competitive bowlers has tremendously waned.
Quote: billryanEskimo is a made-up word, which causes images of people living in iglooos, eating blubber and getting around by a dog sled.
Call a native Alaskan an Eskimo, and you'll either be laughed at for your ignorance or punched in the face...
Certainly incorrect. Eskimo is the name of a group of related languages. Neither the Inuits or the Yupiks have a collective word for all speakers of the language, so Eskimo is good enough. Better than calling a Yupik an Inuit or vice versa. There are other Alaskan natives who are neither, and do not speak Eskimo.
Similar is the word "Desi," a collective term for South Asians who may have in common a religion, a language, or nothing whatsoever. Or "Hispanic," which when it was coined meant things pertaining to the Spanish Empire. That did age well as having once been part of the Spanish Empire is all those nations do have in common.
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I remember subscribing to two different newspapers because one was issued in the morning and the other came out in the afternoon.
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I remember evening papers too. Usually it was boys delivering the evening paper after school and old men delivering in the morning when kids should still be asleep or getting ready for school.
That must have made for some interesting geographical logistics, with the markets closing at 4 PM Eastern. You could probably get that day's closing stock prices in a California evening paper but not in an East Coast one. If you wait until morning in the West the markets might be open again before you saw yesterday's prices.
Now I have a vague recollection of something: weren't there special encoded TV channels you could subscribe to and get real-time financial information? It was something like a microfiche, but broadcast.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanEskimo is a made-up word, which causes images of people living in iglooos, eating blubber and getting around by a dog sled.
Call a native Alaskan an Eskimo, and you'll either be laughed at for your ignorance or punched in the face...
Certainly incorrect. Eskimo is the name of a group of related languages. Neither the Inuits or the Yupiks have a collective word for all speakers of the language, so Eskimo is good enough. Better than calling a Yupik an Inuit or vice versa. There are other Alaskan natives who are neither, and do not speak Eskimo.
Similar is the word "Desi," a collective term for South Asians who may have in common a religion, a language, or nothing whatsoever. Or "Hispanic," which when it was coined meant things pertaining to the Spanish Empire. That did age well as having once been part of the Spanish Empire is all those nations do have in common.
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Even Eskimo Pie had to change their name a few years ago because it was considered offensive by some people. In Canada it's as bad as using the n-word. I loved Eskimo pies as a kid.
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I remember subscribing to two different newspapers because one was issued in the morning and the other came out in the afternoon.
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I remember evening papers too. Usually it was boys delivering the evening paper after school and old men delivering in the morning when kids should still be asleep or getting ready for school.
That must have made for some interesting geographical logistics, with the markets closing at 4 PM Eastern. You could probably get that day's closing stock prices in a California evening paper but not in an East Coast one. If you wait until morning in the West the markets might be open again before you saw yesterday's prices.
Now I have a vague recollection of something: weren't there special encoded TV channels you could subscribe to and get real-time financial information? It was something like a microfiche, but broadcast.
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In the 1950s and in the decades before that newspapers is where you got all your news from. Even if you had a TV the news was only on once a day and it was on for a really short time, the Evening News was 15 minutes long with commercials. I remember in the 1960s when Huntley Brinkley went to half an hour it was a huge deal. A whole half hour of news oh my God. We read the newspaper every day, my Dad read it first, and then I usually read the first page and the funnies. The funnies in the Sunday papers were the best cuz they were totally in color. In the 1920s through World War II instead of saying goodbye to somebody you would often say, see you in the funny papers. You can hear it in old movie sometimes.
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remembering before internet and cellphones
you weren't constantly bombarded with info
you likely read a newspaper in the morning that had about one one hundredth of the news that is easily accessible now
you didn't have easy access to tons of info but you really didn't care about that too much
if you needed to find something out you could go to the library
you didn't think to yourself - gee - if only I could have tons of info at my fingertips
the tv used to get about 7 channels
now on cable I get hundreds of channels that I never watch
.
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I remember subscribing to two different newspapers because one was issued in the morning and the other came out in the afternoon.
We used to only get 4 TV channels.
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It was a big deal in the 1980's when a new network appeared, and we went to 5 channels in the local market. We had a big TV antenna on a tower on a hill, and enjoyed pulling in "foreign" TV from 90 or 100 miles away. The programming and schedule was just slightly different from the local market, if a bit fuzzy to watch.
I couldn't be bothered to look at the afternoon papers, since they didn't really have comics.
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Now I have a vague recollection of something: weren't there special encoded TV channels you could subscribe to and get real-time financial information? It was something like a microfiche, but broadcast.
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I think that may have been a satellite service.
I thought anybody who had it also had a DTN dish.
I believe those were usually a 3 or 4 foot dish, not the 6 to 15 foot "big ugly dish" used for C-band TV.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanEskimo is a made-up word, which causes images of people living in iglooos, eating blubber and getting around by a dog sled.
Call a native Alaskan an Eskimo, and you'll either be laughed at for your ignorance or punched in the face...
Certainly incorrect. Eskimo is the name of a group of related languages. Neither the Inuits or the Yupiks have a collective word for all speakers of the language, so Eskimo is good enough. Better than calling a Yupik an Inuit or vice versa. There are other Alaskan natives who are neither, and do not speak Eskimo.
Similar is the word "Desi," a collective term for South Asians who may have in common a religion, a language, or nothing whatsoever. Or "Hispanic," which when it was coined meant things pertaining to the Spanish Empire. That did age well as having once been part of the Spanish Empire is all those nations do have in common.
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Can you name a group or nationality considered Hispanic where Spanish isn't the main language?
Desi, as I understand it, is a term people of South Asian descent that live abroad use. People living in India don't describe themselves as Desis. :People living in England or America who originally came from that region use it, although, in my experience, Desi's usually have a connection to both England and the sub-continent. My old stomping ground of Jackson Heights had the largest Indian population of any US zip code and I had enough customers to consider dedicating a special Indian night.
I had a "job" as a kid delivering an evening newspaper - The Washington Daily News - it shut down in '72
it was the 3rd most popular newspaper in the DC area way, way behind the Washington Post and The Evening Star
I had only 10 people to deliver to - all spread out - I had to walk about a 1.5 miles to make all the deliveries
I made about $15.00 per month including tips
the regular channels on the TV were 4, 5, 7 and 9 - WRC, WTTG, ABC and CBS - and then later came UHF which added a couple or more channels that came in blurry
the UHF channels - you had to play with the antennae to try and get them to come in clearly
they were stations 20 and 26 - 20 was typical stuff but 26 was highbrow stuff - iirc they called it an educational channel
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The best part of the job was that I'd always have a couple of leftovers, which usually contained coupons from Hardees.I remember buying dinner for my family with MY money. It was a very satisfying moment.
In my freshman year in college, I took a job delivering the Yellow Pages. It paid well, but loading my car up with hundreds of phone books wasn't good for it's longevity. I think I lasted three days, but it might have been two or four. I remember chasing the guy down for weeks to collect less than $100.
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I had a "job" as a kid delivering an evening newspaper - The Washington Daily News - it shut down in '72
it was the 3rd most popular newspaper in the DC area way, way behind the Washington Post and The Evening Star
I had only 10 people to deliver to - all spread out - I had to walk about a 1.5 miles to make all the deliveries
I made about $15.00 per month including tips
the regular channels on the TV were 4, 5, 7 and 9 - WRC, WTTG, ABC and CBS - and then later came UHF which added a couple or more channels that came in blurry
the UHF channels - you had to play with the antennae to try and get them to come in clearly
they were stations 20 and 26 - 20 was typical stuff but 26 was highbrow stuff - iirc they called it an educational channel
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Back when TV started in the late 1940s it was supposed to be all educational and highbrow. Shakespeare plays and concerts and operas and they tried it and nobody watched it. It did not sell TVs. Only when they started making entertainment shows and selling commercial air time did people start wanting a TV in their house.
A job likely diminished by Ebay but not gone.
It had and still has schools. One known as "The Harvard of ____________?.
Most may be online now. I had no idea it was called "chant".
The online class includes LIVE chant improvement small group video conferencing via Zoom with Missouri Auction School instructors and auctioneers. Instructors will include world champion auctioneers.
Quote: rxwineI'll make this one a guessing question. Probably too easy.
A job likely diminished by Ebay but not gone.
It had and still has schools. One known as "The Harvard of ____________?.Auctioneering I was just wondering where you learn that talking skill or was it all passed down.
Most may be online now. I had no idea it was called "chant".
The online class includes LIVE chant improvement small group video conferencing via Zoom with Missouri Auction School instructors and auctioneers. Instructors will include world champion auctioneers.
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Auctions are huge in the Midwest, I used to go to them every week. There's even a newspaper that comes out once a week called the Auction Exchange that lists all the upcoming auctions and there's always lots of them and they are always very well attended. Quite often it's the only way to get rid of an estate is to auction It.
Wait...I just turned 63, and I'm a Young Whippersnapper around here?Quote: EvenBobQuote: FatGeezusI left VN on 12/05/67.
As I have done since my return, I will be going out with my wife to celebrate my safe return from VN.
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Good grief how old are you. I'm 75 and I was a senior in high school in 1967.
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For the most part, you still can't swear on broadcast TV. Even live events have delays in them.Quote: EvenBobI remember when the only place you ever heard cursing and swear words was in real life. You never heard it on TV or in the movies other than the standard non-swearing swear words like hell and damn. When I was a teenager we cursed a lot cuz it was fun and you couldn't do it at home, my parents never used curse words of any kind and nobody's parents did that I ever heard. I never heard the f word until I was 14 or 15 and I had no idea what it meant. But I sure used it a lot with my friends after that. Swearing was cool.
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Cable and streaming shows have unwritten rules of their own. I remember somebody discussing Netflix's Bojack Horseman where they said they were allowed to use the F-word once per season, which is one more than they're allowed to use on TBS's American Dad.
I remember when Dale Earnhardt Jr. slipped in an S-bomb in a post-race interview on NBC, and the first thing the announcer did on the following week's race broadcast was to (a) apologize on behalf of NBC for it, and (b) announce there would be a seven-second delay from that point forward.
Quote: rxwineI'll make this one a guessing question. Probably too easy.
A job likely diminished by Ebay but not gone.
It had and still has schools. One known as "The Harvard of ____________?.Auctioneering I was just wondering where you learn that talking skill or was it all passed down.
Most may be online now. I had no idea it was called "chant".
The online class includes LIVE chant improvement small group video conferencing via Zoom with Missouri Auction School instructors and auctioneers. Instructors will include world champion auctioneers.
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Harvard is the Hofsta of the North.
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Harvard is the Hofsta of the North.
Are you an English major from Hofsta? I have always seen it spelled Hofstra.
Quote: rxwineI'll make this one a guessing question. Probably too easy.
A job likely diminished by Ebay but not gone.
It had and still has schools. One known as "The Harvard of ____________?.Auctioneering I was just wondering where you learn that talking skill or was it all passed down.
Most may be online now. I had no idea it was called "chant".
The online class includes LIVE chant improvement small group video conferencing via Zoom with Missouri Auction School instructors and auctioneers. Instructors will include world champion auctioneers.
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I see fewer and fewer of these people each year. when I worked for David Maltz, he'd attended that school and used it, but not all the time. His son now runs the business and barely uses it. I've never liked it and am glad it is a dying language.
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Harvard is the Hofsta of the North.
Are you an English major from Hofsta? I have always seen it spelled Hofstra.
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It's fame proceeds it.
My autocorrect wants to change Hofstra to Hofsta. It must be from Bawston.
