Uneducated Opining: Is it Genetic or a Lifestyle Choice
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June 14th, 2012 at 8:43:21 AM
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should WoV members spend more time in the library learning about things that they post about?
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 8:52:21 AM
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This seems like a thread started with the (only) purpose of attacking other members ...
Perhaps, a little ban is in order?
Perhaps, a little ban is in order?
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
June 14th, 2012 at 8:55:54 AM
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please show where the "attack" is
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 8:58:28 AM
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Quote: weaselmanThis seems like a thread started with the (only) purpose of attacking other members ...
Perhaps, a little ban is in order?
What is it with you people and your bans?
I do agree, there have been quite a few 'gay' issue threads as of late.
I for one, do NOT like or approve of that lifestyle. Its my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
Ken
June 14th, 2012 at 9:00:17 AM
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Quote: WongBoplease show where the "attack" is
I would think that the options in your poll make the accusation that anyone who doesn't agree with your POV are either stupid or uneducated. I would consider that an attack
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
June 14th, 2012 at 9:01:28 AM
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Funny thing about polls.....you can always spot an AGENDA when 'certain' other choices are not part of the poll. (lol)
Ken
Ken
June 14th, 2012 at 9:02:11 AM
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there were plenty of things said in the "gay" posts that could be construed as attacks.
why the thin skin and double standard?
sorry to say it, but many of the opinions expressed in the other threads
were rather lacking in scientific foundation or educated reasoning.
the only people who might feel attacked were the ones making uneducated theories public.
and in doing so, the validity of my question stands.
why would you make uneducated posts, when you could instead choose to educate yourself?
why the thin skin and double standard?
sorry to say it, but many of the opinions expressed in the other threads
were rather lacking in scientific foundation or educated reasoning.
the only people who might feel attacked were the ones making uneducated theories public.
and in doing so, the validity of my question stands.
why would you make uneducated posts, when you could instead choose to educate yourself?
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:07:40 AM
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What about my prison example, has anyone answered that yet?
Ken
Ken
June 14th, 2012 at 9:08:26 AM
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I agree that there have been attacks. but you seem to think the only attacks in that thread are from people who don't agree with that lifestyle, whereas I and many others can see attacks from both sides. I don't wish to get into a pissing match here, because issues on this topic seldom seem to go over smoothly no matter what side of the issue one is on.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
June 14th, 2012 at 9:11:41 AM
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it is my opinion, we all should just stick to gambling and related topics.
people who start threads about religion, politics and sexuality know they are trolling for controversy.
people who start threads about religion, politics and sexuality know they are trolling for controversy.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:14:16 AM
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I agree, but at the same time, whether it be a gambling forum, or a sports forum, I have never been on one in which these topics have failed to appear either.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
June 14th, 2012 at 9:16:10 AM
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Quote: Gabes22I would think that the options in your poll make the accusation that anyone who doesn't agree with your POV are either stupid or uneducated. I would consider that an attack
Yes, exactly.
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
June 14th, 2012 at 9:17:26 AM
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Quote: WongBoit is my opinion, we all should just stick to gambling and related topics.
people who start threads about religion, politics and sexuality know they are trolling for controversy.
Wait ... So, you yourself think that you are trolling? Hmmm
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
June 14th, 2012 at 9:22:51 AM
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if SOME people (none of whom were identified by name) are making uneducated posts,
what is wrong with asking the OPINON of OTHER people what they THINK about those people?
nothing.
there was no attack made.
maybe there are not enough options in the poll to satisfy you,
you can then post your own opinion.
and that opinion will be judged on its merits.
what is wrong with asking the OPINON of OTHER people what they THINK about those people?
nothing.
there was no attack made.
maybe there are not enough options in the poll to satisfy you,
you can then post your own opinion.
and that opinion will be judged on its merits.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:28:18 AM
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Quote: WongBoif SOME people (none of whom were identified by name) are making uneducated posts,
what is wrong with asking the OPINON of OTHER people what they THINK about those people?
nothing.
there was no attack made.
maybe there are not enough options in the poll to satisfy you,
you can then post your own opinion.
and that opinion will be judged on its merits.
"that opinion will be judged on its merits" >>> Can you expand on that a bit? I dont know if you can have OPINION and JUDGED and/or OPINION and MERITS in the same sentence.
Ken
June 14th, 2012 at 9:32:08 AM
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Wow, If I were to post a thread or comment like Wong Bo's then I'd be banned. Wong Bo clearly gets preferential treatment from this boards owner and administrators because he's gay.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:33:45 AM
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hey keyser, you keep saying that.
to what are you referring?
to what are you referring?
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:36:57 AM
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"Uneducated Opining: Is it Genetic or a Lifestyle Choice". This entire thread is an example
June 14th, 2012 at 9:37:11 AM
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Quote: KeyserWow, If I were to post a thread or comment like Wong Bo's then I'd be banned. Wong Bo clearly gets preferential treatment from this boards owner and administrators because he's gay.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you !!!
June 14th, 2012 at 9:44:03 AM
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keyser, you just made a personal attack on the wizard.
just to be clear, doing so is a violation of the terms of the forum.
whereas, polling opinions on my own opinion is not.
maybe you need to review the terms
just to be clear, doing so is a violation of the terms of the forum.
whereas, polling opinions on my own opinion is not.
maybe you need to review the terms
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:46:01 AM
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Quote: Wongbokeyser, you just made a personal attack on the wizard.
just to be clear, doing so is a violation of the terms of the forum.
whereas, polling opinions on my own opinion is not.
maybe you need to review the terms
Where?
June 14th, 2012 at 9:52:06 AM
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why don't we all just list our degrees ,
and then we can guage who might know more about this topic.
i have (among others) a Ph.D. in population studies from princeton.
what do you guys have?
and then we can guage who might know more about this topic.
i have (among others) a Ph.D. in population studies from princeton.
what do you guys have?
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 9:53:29 AM
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Quote: KeyserWong Bo clearly gets preferential treatment from this boards owner and administrators because he's gay.
Banned. Sentencing to be forthcoming.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 14th, 2012 at 9:54:46 AM
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So basically, you have a doctorate in philosophy?
http://www.princeton.edu/gradschool/about/catalog/fields/population/
http://www.princeton.edu/gradschool/about/catalog/fields/population/
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June 14th, 2012 at 10:02:54 AM
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wow gabes....
the irony is stunning.
the irony is stunning.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 10:02:57 AM
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WongBo:
While I have no interest in this thread at all, that link provided by Gabes22 was interesting in itself. Perhaps you can clarify the Princeton program for us from first-hand experience. How do you earn a PhD in a field where they only offer ten graduate courses and haven't bothered to list the faculty? Is something missing from that link?
While I have no interest in this thread at all, that link provided by Gabes22 was interesting in itself. Perhaps you can clarify the Princeton program for us from first-hand experience. How do you earn a PhD in a field where they only offer ten graduate courses and haven't bothered to list the faculty? Is something missing from that link?
June 14th, 2012 at 10:08:02 AM
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Quote: WongBowhy don't we all just list our degrees ,
and then we can guage who might know more about this topic.
i have (among others) a Ph.D. in population studies from princeton.
what do you guys have?
fun game!
I have a BA in Political Science and a Masters in Public Policy. Why population studies? Was your research so focused the population studies was the best fit? Otherwise, I'd have thought that anthropology or sociology would get you farther...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
June 14th, 2012 at 10:11:16 AM
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High School graduate with some college. I plan to finish my bachelors degree sometime after the next transit of Venus.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
June 14th, 2012 at 10:18:26 AM
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I would be interested in knowing the educational makeup of the forum. But I start too many threads, so I'll let someone else do it if they want.
June 14th, 2012 at 10:19:53 AM
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I have a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration with an Emphasis in Marketing and a Minor in Communication.
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June 14th, 2012 at 10:28:26 AM
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I have posted my opinion on being gay in the other controversial poll. That being said, the most offensive language in either poll is the option "should probably admit they are secretly gay curious". I have heard this many times in my life, and it troubles me that this is always brought up when a straight man (which I am) has a strong opinion about a gay man. Just because someone disagrees does NOT mean they are curious to try it out. I would never jump out of a plane, I do not require that kind of thrill, and I can assure you that I am not secretly curious about skydiving. And before you zealots try to jump on me, it has rarely been used in reference to me, because I do not care if an individual is gay.
Utterly ridiculous!
(on a side note, I would wager (even though I wager no more) that of the 5 votes that option received, at least 4 were by gay men)
Utterly ridiculous!
(on a side note, I would wager (even though I wager no more) that of the 5 votes that option received, at least 4 were by gay men)
Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." ~ William Gibson
June 14th, 2012 at 10:38:51 AM
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it really was not meant to be offensive.
it is a valid option.
many homophobes have in fact turned out to be secretly involved in homosexual activity.
it is a valid option.
many homophobes have in fact turned out to be secretly involved in homosexual activity.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 10:47:45 AM
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So out of 300 million people in America (or more) who aren't gay, you find 15 who delve into it, yet disagree with it, and you find that a relevant sample size?
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
June 14th, 2012 at 10:49:50 AM
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Then I could start a poll with the option "Gay teens should just commit suicide and get it over with". That would be a valid option since studies show that gay teens are five times more likely to commit suicide than other teens. It would be clearly offensive, but still a valid option since I can find a study that shows it is true. I am sure we can find a "study" to back almost any point of view...doesn't make it less offensive.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study-gay-teens-five-times-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide
BTW, I wouldn't start a poll with any options about gays, and if I did I would not include the above option. Just showing how foolish we can be. And it offends me that I have to write a disclaimer to show that I do not agree or believe that gay teens should kill themselves!!!!
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study-gay-teens-five-times-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide
BTW, I wouldn't start a poll with any options about gays, and if I did I would not include the above option. Just showing how foolish we can be. And it offends me that I have to write a disclaimer to show that I do not agree or believe that gay teens should kill themselves!!!!
Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." ~ William Gibson
June 14th, 2012 at 10:49:52 AM
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Quote: Gabes22So out of 300 million people in America (or more) who aren't gay, you find 15 who delve into it, yet disagree with it, and you find that a relevant sample size?
I'm confused. Are you saying that there are only 15 who both disagree with it and delve into the subject? If so, that's not a sample, it's the entire subject population...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
June 14th, 2012 at 10:51:31 AM
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I am saying he has to find more than a 1:20,000,000 correlation to use it as a point in his argument.
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June 14th, 2012 at 10:52:04 AM
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gabes, i am sorry to say, but after you asked me
if i have a doctorate in philosophy and posted a link which explains the program,
i am having a little trouble taking you seriously.
i only posted the link as an example illustrating that homophobia is often a smokescreen.
if i have a doctorate in philosophy and posted a link which explains the program,
i am having a little trouble taking you seriously.
i only posted the link as an example illustrating that homophobia is often a smokescreen.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 10:55:33 AM
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The link says the doctorate is in philosophy.
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June 14th, 2012 at 11:21:20 AM
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Quote: Gabes22I am saying he has to find more than a 1:20,000,000 correlation to use it as a point in his argument.
That's not how that works. If 15 of the 300,000,000 are both straight and interested, and they're the only people who meet that qualification, then it's a 1:1 correlation.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
June 14th, 2012 at 11:25:05 AM
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Quote: WongBoPh.D.
there is a difference between
doctor of philosophy and
doctorate in philosophy
Yeah, that's sad. But it also leaves Doc's question and my question unanswered.
Doc's question - how'd you get a PhD in a program that's so academically sparse? It doesn't look like Princeton's Population Studies program has enough meat to support a PhD program. (restated, sorry if I missed the point)
My question - why population studies? Sociology or anthropology or even political science would seem to be closely related and also more easily accepted/understood.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
June 14th, 2012 at 11:30:04 AM
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your questions are clearly not asked out of curiosity for an answer,
so they will not be getting one.
if you want to see the diploma,
stop by my office next time you are in manhattan.
so they will not be getting one.
if you want to see the diploma,
stop by my office next time you are in manhattan.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief.
- Proverb.
June 14th, 2012 at 11:35:08 AM
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Quote: WongBoyour questions are clearly not asked out of curiosity for an answer,
so they will not be getting one.
if you want to see the diploma,
stop by my office next time you are in manhattan.
If you're going to bring up your education, you should be willing to answer questions about it. Just sayin...
June 14th, 2012 at 11:37:35 AM
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High School Dropout 11th grade Mt. St. Joseph's High School*. Current freshman age 72 Colorado Mesa University.
Informal Education : had to quit high school to support family Worked grocery store during the day, rack boy at pool hall
evenings, later dealt 5 card stud in back room at pool hall, hustled pool and duckpins, ran bets for bookies,
Vietnam era Vet, then at age 28 went over to the Dark Side.
32 years as technican and shop steward at AT&T.
* say what you will about Catholic Education, but 55 years later I had the highest GED overall score in
Western Colorado.
Informal Education : had to quit high school to support family Worked grocery store during the day, rack boy at pool hall
evenings, later dealt 5 card stud in back room at pool hall, hustled pool and duckpins, ran bets for bookies,
Vietnam era Vet, then at age 28 went over to the Dark Side.
32 years as technican and shop steward at AT&T.
* say what you will about Catholic Education, but 55 years later I had the highest GED overall score in
Western Colorado.
June 14th, 2012 at 11:40:26 AM
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Quote: WongBoyour questions are clearly not asked out of curiosity for an answer,
so they will not be getting one.
if you want to see the diploma,
stop by my office next time you are in manhattan.
I think that they are asked out of curiosity. Perhaps the restatement was a bit harsh, but that's only because you blew the questions off earlier and instead focused on more ridiculous material.
So, legitimately:
Doc's question: The link to the population studies department site shows a relatively small number of classes. Is the pop studies PhD track an inter-disciplinary program? Did you study in other departments as well? (this probably inter-relates with my question)
My question: Why pop studies? Was your research very specifically pop-nerdy? I did an MPP instead of an MA in political science because I was most interested in public opinion polling and that's a subject that's more fully addressed in the public policy department than in the political science department at most schools (certainly true at Minnesota, where I studied). Did something similar steer you to pop studies and not anthro or sociology?
As to your manhattan office: NYC scares me. Bring a pic of the degree & let's meet in AC:-P
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
June 14th, 2012 at 11:47:33 AM
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I apologize WongBo. I didn't know until now what PhD stood for.
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June 14th, 2012 at 12:04:36 PM
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Quote: Gabes22I apologize WongBo. I didn't know until now what PhD stood for.
There is an old quip about someone who gets a B.S., an M.S., and a PhD.
BS -- We all know what that stands for.
MS -- That seems to be More of the Same.
PhD -- A bit more, Piled higher and Deeper.
June 14th, 2012 at 12:06:01 PM
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Quote: DocThere is an old quip about someone who gets a B.S., an M.S., and a PhD.
A popular joke in medical schools is asking certain teachers "Are you a PhD or a real doctor?"
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
June 14th, 2012 at 12:11:55 PM
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You would have thought that they could have thought up a better term than Doctorate of Philosohpy. It almost sounds like something you should be ashamed of.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
June 14th, 2012 at 12:12:18 PM
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Quote: NareedA popular joke in medical schools is asking certain teachers "Are you a PhD or a real doctor?"
The truth of the matter is that a person with an earned PhD is far closer to being a "real doctor" than the people who go to medical schools. Do you know the background of the title "Doctor" and how it got applied to academic degrees? And about the shortcut that the medical profession and some others took? Let's just say that neither a modern M.D. degree nor a J.D., or D.D.S, or a bunch of others are classified as "academic doctorates." They fall into a lesser category called "first professional degree".
