weaselman
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May 2nd, 2011 at 6:04:53 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Not commenting on it being fake as logic tells me that no POTUS would take a chance like this as if Bin Ladden showed up alive later he would look so foolish the very security of the country could be in danger.


There are other possibilities:
1. There never was an Osama bin Laden to begin with (or he has been dead for a while, perhaps, since before 2001, and the President knows it).
2. They have actually captured him a while ago, and have been keeping in secretly and torturing all this time, and now he died, but they could not show us a picture of the body, because it is dismembered and mutilated beyond recognition.

Whatever that is, I found the theory of "we just did not know where to bury him, so we dumped him into the sea, and never thought of even taking a picture of the body", because we did not want to violate Islamic laws, about as far fetched as the two hypotheses above.
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May 2nd, 2011 at 6:16:30 PM permalink
Quote: weaselman

... Whatever that is, I found the theory of "we just did not know where to bury him, so we dumped him into the sea, and never thought of even taking a picture of the body", because we did not want to violate Islamic laws, about as far fetched as the two hypotheses above.


I guess I haven't heard any reports that say (1) "we just did not know where to bury him" or (2) "never thought of even taking a picture of the body". The reports I heard specifically did say that pictures were taken and at least implied that they did not want to present a physical burial place as a potential shrine.
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May 2nd, 2011 at 8:00:15 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

I guess I haven't heard any reports that say (1) "we just did not know where to bury him" or (2) "never thought of even taking a picture of the body". The reports I heard specifically did say that pictures were taken and at least implied that they did not want to present a physical burial place as a potential shrine.



The world as we now know it is tightly controlled by the media in that everything we know is fed to us from them. Whatever the truth is, when Obama speaks into the cameras he could have stayed the course and at least blamed George W. Bush for setting the table for him on this one.

No one in the civilized world wants a shrine for the creep, but we would have liked to at least see a true picture of him D.O.A. How hard would it be to cremate him and spread his ashes in dumps across America? Let the Muslim extremist freaks try and honor him at these places. It just doesn't add up and we're one again being asked to trust our Government. What have they done for us lately?
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May 2nd, 2011 at 8:11:57 PM permalink
Quote: Virgi

The world as we now know it is tightly controlled by the media in that everything we know is fed to us from them. Whatever the truth is, when Obama speaks into the cameras he could have stayed the course and at least blamed George W. Bush for setting the table for him on this one.

No one in the civilized world wants a shrine for the creep, but we would have liked to at least see a true picture of him D.O.A. How hard would it be to cremate him and spread his ashes in dumps across America? Let the Muslim extremist freaks try and honor him at these places. It just doesn't add up and we're one again being asked to trust our Government. What have they done for us lately?



It's pretty obvious that if a picture had been produced, the AM radio folks would just say it was fake. We all know how very easy it is to fake pics like that, so producing a picture is amazingly worthless.
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May 2nd, 2011 at 10:02:43 PM permalink
I think for some people a picture (which no doubt exists) is less about proof and more about satisfying their ghoulish tendencies.

One more corpse on the pages on the press would not add much to that torrent of macabre images out there. Not sure this is what we should encourage the kids to see. But if it helps Virgi sleep a happy American, lets stick out there.

I suspect one day you'll see the full gory image.
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weaselman
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May 3rd, 2011 at 3:58:24 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

It's pretty obvious that if a picture had been produced, the AM radio folks would just say it was fake.


Yes, it is possible. Nevertheless pictures and videos are produced most of the time, as proof, as illustration, as news of their own.
Why not this one time - that is the interesting question.

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We all know how very easy it is to fake pics like that, so producing a picture is amazingly worthless.


I am not talking about a picture as a proof. I am just asking why there was no picture this time.
As for proof, there are plenty of other ways. Cut off his beard, and bring it over to the states, and then give individual hairs out for independent DNA analysis. Bring the whole body back to the US, and have it examined by experts. Show it to somebody outside US.

But even without any of it, a picture, or better yet, a series of pictures, while not proof by itself, would give a lot of additional credibility to this odd story, not because it is hard to fake, but because it would make it less odd.
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weaselman
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May 3rd, 2011 at 4:02:29 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit


One more corpse on the pages on the press would not add much to that torrent of macabre images out there.


Exactly. If we have never seen a picture of a corpse in a newspaper or on a TV screen before, I could see the argument that we won't this time either, simply because there is nothing to see there. But that is not the case. There are pictures of everything everywhere. There is a tutorial on waterboarding on youtube.

But this one particular picture is not suited for the public all of a sudden. It just makes me wonder why.
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May 3rd, 2011 at 4:07:57 AM permalink
Quote: avargov

I am conspiritist either, nor am I a Rob Singer fan, but we did debate here for weeks about his claims. I would think that most of the minds on this forum would want a little proof.

Hell, just last week half of the US thought Obama was from someplace other, now we will all believe what he says. Perhaps we all want the news so bad we will take it at face value.



here we go

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rdw4potus
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May 3rd, 2011 at 6:02:23 AM permalink
Quote: weaselman

Yes, it is possible. Nevertheless pictures and videos are produced most of the time, as proof, as illustration, as news of their own.
Why not this one time - that is the interesting question.



Why offend/piss-off the Islamic world if people won't believe the pictures anyway? Not releasing the pictures is by-far the better position for us to be in.
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Virgi
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May 3rd, 2011 at 6:05:37 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I suspect one day you'll see the full gory image.



We saw Saddam swinging from a rope. We saw his sons being dragged through the streets. We'll see Ghadafi once he gets his head choppped off. Why not this putz?

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