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mkl654321
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February 17th, 2011 at 4:16:51 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I wish I could block entire sections of the site. I'd probably argue less on non-gambling topics and save myself time.

I often ignore whole sections anyways. And whole people too.



This isn't a gambling forum--it's an opportunity for transgendered people to vent their feelings and seek validation! Duh.

Though it might be more productive for Nareed to seek out an LBGT forum and start some gambling discussions there.
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mkl654321
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February 17th, 2011 at 4:25:45 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

So let me be prefectly clear:

I'm not angry at the world. I'm not bitter about who I am. I'm happy I've figured out what I want and need to do and am doing it. I'm angry at you because you're a thoughtless, insensitive prick. Got that? Or was that too simple for your massive brain?



"Prefectly" clear. Also prefectly clear that it's total bullshit. You claim that I have insulted "transgender" people--yet all I did was point out that what they are trying to do is a practical impossibility. For THAT, you hate me--not for the way I said it, but the fact that I said it at all. Why can't you just admit and acknowledge the true reason for your hatred?

You've tendered literally dozens of insults, as above: "You're a this and that" and "You're a that and this." Aside from the fact that such crude and gross behavior violates the rules of the forum (and I'm not going to call the Wiz's attention to it because I both pity and understand you, and I think that you NEED this forum to seek approval and validation), it also violates the rules of common decency. Just imagine a disinterested observer reading your personal insult-filled rants and diatribes aimed at me over the last few days.

Your trying to assume the moral high ground from the depths of the pit you've dug for yourself is both funny and pathetic.

And by the way, YOU'RE A MAN. Man up!
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February 17th, 2011 at 4:36:17 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

"Prefectly" clear. Also prefectly clear that it's total bullshit. You claim that I have insulted "transgender" people--yet all I did was point out that what they are trying to do is a practical impossibility. For THAT, you hate me--not for the way I said it, but the fact that I said it at all. Why can't you just admit and acknowledge the true reason for your hatred?

You've tendered literally dozens of insults, as above: "You're a this and that" and "You're a that and this." Aside from the fact that such crude and gross behavior violates the rules of the forum (and I'm not going to call the Wiz's attention to it because I both pity and understand you, and I think that you NEED this forum to seek approval and validation), it also violates the rules of common decency. Just imagine a disinterested observer reading your personal insult-filled rants and diatribes aimed at me over the last few days.

Your trying to assume the moral high ground from the depths of the pit you've dug for yourself is both funny and pathetic.

And by the way, YOU'RE A MAN. Man up!



Sadly, you're wrong. Many transgendered people have happily lived as a trans-folk for years, with or without your pity. It is possible to change your gender identity as viewed by other people, whether or not this is by surgery, hormones or merely outward appearance. They don't need your approval or your labels, but it'd probably help if there was one less person in the world who insisted on labelling everyone to their own satisfaction.

You last line is a sign of what little respect you have for the transgendered community. Which suggest you have some issue that you need to work through with it, and you find trans-gendered people a threat of some sort.(*) Such displaced anger. Who'd have thought it?

I do note how you'll now avoid ALL reference to the fact you assumed a bunch of stuff on my one use of a word you didn't understand. Perhaps you should stick to issues you do understand (like VP advantage play, casinos and the like).

(*) I don't know if that sentence is true. I thought I'd try a little psycho-babble myself.
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Nareed
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February 17th, 2011 at 4:40:44 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

This isn't a gambling forum--it's an opportunity for transgendered people to vent their feelings and seek validation! Duh.



Funny you should complain, when it was you who started the transgendered discussion in this thread. You've gone from hostility to paranoid delusions. Maybe you should look for a TG forum to post on.

Oh, it's not a gambling forum. It's a Vegas forum with some heavy emphasis on gambling. It's also a place for people to discuss other things, as evidenced by the many threads dealing neither with Vegas nor gambling. You've posted in them, too, and damn near everywhere else, so you should be aware of this.
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February 17th, 2011 at 5:37:58 PM permalink
Summary of last 100 posts here- mkl does not believe that a person can change his/her gender. Nareed believes one can change their gender. I have taken care of a few TG people over the course of my career. Although genetically they are still unchanged from their original gender, I would agree with Nareed that for all intents and purposes they have changed their sex. The medical community would consider a TG female, originally male, to be a female. Nareed- I have read many of your posts about gambling and you seem to be a 'low roller'. I have thought that the operation and assorted hormones and other stuff costs upwards of $100k. Are you presently saving up?
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February 17th, 2011 at 5:43:49 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

"Prefectly" clear. Also prefectly clear that it's total bullshit.



You eat with that mouth?

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You claim that I have insulted "transgender" people--yet all I did was point out that what they are trying to do is a practical impossibility.



You claim it's a practical impossibility based on wrong assumptions and incorrect information. Not only that, but you go on to describe TG people desirous of SRS as being delusional. If that doesn't strike you as an insult, I don't know what does.

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For THAT, you hate me--



Hell, no. I've hated you since the thread about cheating in casinos. You spewed condescension and insults and never once answered any of the points I raised. This latest tiff is just gravy.

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You've tendered literally dozens of insults, as above: "You're a this and that" and "You're a that and this."



I did. I am a viscious animal: when attacked, I defend myself.

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Aside from the fact that such crude and gross behavior violates the rules of the forum



I think they're allowed under the Free Speech area, which is where we are posting right now. If I'm wrong, I expect I'll be suspended for a while. If any apologies are due, they're due the Wizard and his moderators, not you.

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(and I'm not going to call the Wiz's attention to it because I both pity and understand you, and I think that you NEED this forum to seek approval and validation),



And that's not condescending? I don't need validation or approval. I don't need pity. I come here for intelligent conversation about Vegas and gambling. I've found a lot more. I've found several smart, thoughtful adults who can discuss other topics. I've found support, too, from the Wizard and too many users to mention, lest I leave anyone out.

It must irk you to find you're wrong on so many levels. I'm sorry, but that's just the truth.

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it also violates the rules of common decency. Just imagine a disinterested observer reading your personal insult-filled rants and diatribes aimed at me over the last few days.



Oh, sweetie. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

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And by the way, YOU'RE A MAN. Man up!



Oh, that's really very compassionate and supportive. You're a saint. Hell, you're an angel.
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Croupier
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February 17th, 2011 at 5:44:28 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Nareed- I have read many of your posts about gambling and you seem to be a 'low roller'. I have thought that the operation and assorted hormones and other stuff costs upwards of $100k. Are you presently saving up?



Maybe this question would be better answered in one of Nareed's other threads.

EDIT - Such as this
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February 17th, 2011 at 5:51:03 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

You eat with that mouth?.........etc



What Happened to

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Dont Feed The Trolls

:P

I know you feel the need to defend yourself. I myself have felt defensive on a number of occasions, in disagreements with MKL, EvenBob, and JerryLogan, to name the three foremost in my mind.

I have also agreed with MKL on some things, Less with EvenBob, and It was JerryLogan who suggested if I wanted WoVCon to happen, I should try organising it myself.

I admit I am hot tempered. But even I draw the line. Please, Please, Please remember your own words.

MKL, can you not think of other peoples feelings, and Nareed, can you not either block mkl, or use your patented write, wait, post method to avoid jumping in.

In the words of President Dale "Why can't we work out our differences? Why can't we work things out? Little people, why can't we all just get along?"
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Nareed
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February 17th, 2011 at 6:14:22 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Although genetically they are still unchanged from their original gender, I would agree with Nareed that for all intents and purposes they have changed their sex. The medical community would consider a TG female, originally male, to be a female.



That sums it up well. Though I think doctors have a separate entry for transsexuals. The medical issues are different. For instance, due to the balancing of hormone doses, a TS can test positive in a pregnancy test. Which will do for an irony until a better one comes along :)

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Nareed- I have read many of your posts about gambling and you seem to be a 'low roller'. I have thought that the operation and assorted hormones and other stuff costs upwards of $100k. Are you presently saving up?



I'm a low roller because I don't need to bet more to enjoy gambling. I've no idea what the whole process will cost. Thus far electrolysis is cheaper than I figured it would be. Hormones won't be so bad because they're cheaper in Mexico, especially if I buy the generic kind (I won't before asking the endocrinologist). Surgery? I don't know. It's years away yet. I figure on doing a lot of research. There are several reputable surgeons, including some in Mexico.

I'm estimating around $25 to $50 thousand USD over several years, and that includes post-SRS cosmetic surgery.
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Nareed
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February 17th, 2011 at 6:21:04 PM permalink
Quote: Croupier

What Happened to



I can only be pushed so much.

Look, if an Evebob says something so monumentally outrageous, and wrong, as mkl did, I'd just post some facts and walk away. But when someone comes in making a show of being supportive and then hurls insults and vitriol out his mouth, he needs to be dealt with. God keep us from people who'd do us good.

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and Nareed, can you not either block mkl, or use your patented write, wait, post method to avoid jumping in.



I did. It dind't work out well. I can PM you later about it if you like.
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