Chess Sluts
Well, there goes that GoDaddy.com-sponsored chess tournament. Gawker noticed that the European Chess Union has issued new rules for how women should dress during tournaments, which means they'd best keep their "décolletés" -- fancy talk for "boobs" -- covered up. From now on, female players can only unbutton the top two buttons of their shirts. The new dress code also requires both genders to wear "a pulled together, harmonious, complete look with colors, fabrics, shoes and accessories." The ECU's Sava Stoisavljevic told Chessbase, "I think it's good that we have started to do something with dress code, and it's very important for the image of chess."
Yes! Finally chess players will shake the stereotype that they're scandalous dressers.
After watching that you realize a woman should probably be able to defeat all comers... there clearly has been restraint already [g]
I see a couple of gals that may be affected by the new rules. Looks like the USA is under represented when it comes to attractive females playing chess....no surprise.
Quote: progrockerhttp://www.chesspics.com/rating.php?r=1
I see a couple of gals that may be affected by the new rules. Looks like the USA is under represented when it comes to attractive females playing chess....no surprise.
So you can in fact find ANYTHING on the internet !
there was never any girls. In the few tournaments I was
in, it was all boys. Course it was the 60's, women were
dumber then. Supposedly.
Maria Manakova, a 30-year-old Russian grandmaster caused a sensation by posing in glamour shots. "Women use their sexuality to promote all kinds of sports," she said. "Why not chess?"
I was one of those people who bought a classical violin album by Chinese - British Vanessa Mae partly because of her glamour.
Why do you suppose Maksim Mrvica is one of the more popular Classical pianists in the world?
Quote: pacomartinWhy do you suppose Maksim Mrvica [/urlis one of the more popular Classical pianists in the world?
I don't suppose its because he plays chess, is it ?
;-)
Where have I been lately? A little history. I played a little chess in middle school in the mid-60s. Of course we called it junior high back then. Then in 1978 I joined a chess club for a while. Then I was out of chess until 1992 when I took it up again. Judit Polgar was a sensation at the time. I would devour books about chess and its history.I I played in a tournament and got a rating of 1348. Then I didn't play much chess again until lately.
I don't know what motivated me to get back into the game. But I've been reading about chess a little lately--Magnus Carlson and his ELO rating of the 2882, videos on YouTube on Bobby Fischer.
Then I found the website, lichess.org. I've played almost 300 games since January 8th. It has really challenged me to my core to try to play better, not make mistakes, to come back for more games after losses.
Anyone who would like to play a game with me can look me up on that website; I go by the handle I use here.
I'd like to hear from other forum members about your interest in chess.
I have never been in a chess club or played tournaments, but I enjoy playing.Quote: GreasyjohnThought I'd post about chess here as opposed to starting a new thread. Besides, with a thread title like this one there, I'll get some views.
Where have I been lately? A little history. I played a little chess in middle school in the mid-60s. Of course we called it junior high back then. Then in 1978 I joined a chess club for a while. Then I was out of chess until 1992 when I took it up again. Judit Polgar was a sensation at the time. I would devour books about chess and its history.I I played in a tournament and got a rating of 1348. Then I didn't play much chess again until lately.
I don't know what motivated me to get back into the game. But I've been reading about chess a little lately--Magnus Carlson and his ELO rating of the 2882, videos on YouTube on Bobby Fischer.
Then I found the website, lichess.org. I've played almost 300 games since January 8th. It has really challenged me to my core to try to play better, not make mistakes, to come back for more games after losses.
Anyone who would like to play a game with me can look me up on that website; I go by the handle I use here.
I'd like to hear from other forum members about your interest in chess.
A few of us guys are on that site as well. Most everyone lost interest. I haven't played for a while, however Ill be glad to play a few with you. I have played Mike and a few others live a few times.
How many minutes on the clock do you use when you play? I don't like long games and I'm fairly aggressive.
I don't get how people get their rating on that site, it makes no sense, I have beaten people with a 2k+ rating (you can watch the matches I think) and I have lost to people with terrible a ratings. I know people under play their rating, but why tank if your 2k?
Fun fact: Magnus Carlson beats Karpov at age 13. karpov was annoyed the kid walked away during the match IIRC.
FYI. This might be something of interest to anyone who likes poker and chess or gambling in general. Chess master vs pro poker player with rook odds. Tom Dwan vs Greg Shahade https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/chess-master-vs-pro-poker-player-with-rook-odds.
Quote: JohnnyQMaksim Mrvica
That guy annoys me.
My favorite popular/glamorous pianist destroys his bumblebee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZPrrboTkY
They both annoyed me(he was more entertaining), I couldn't close her out fast enough.Quote: RigondeauxThat guy annoys me.
My favorite popular/glamorous pianist destroys his bumblebee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZPrrboTkY
Didn't like it in junior high when players were not serious about it. Too childish.
Played a little in Boston's Combat Zone with some blacks who had learned in NYC because "they had lots of time on their hands" which was the then current phrase for being a resident at the Gray Bar Hotel. At fifty cents a game they made pretty good money. In NYC I had played at a few outdoor chess tables in the village and at three chess clubs: Rossolimo's in the vilage (bad coffee), two in 42nd street (bad neighborhood).
In Boston I played most Sunday mornings with a man who had no fingernails and one early Spring day he wore sandals and I saw he had no toe nails either. I think he liked the fact that I never commented to him about it. I did once mention to him the Fried Liver Attack and he thought I was kidding ... commented to me about it when he learned a few months later that there was indeed such an opening.
I tended to like it when girls were members of a rifle club or a chess club. So few girls in junior high or high school were interested in anything other than hair styles and gossiping.
Haven't played in years of course. Out here in the boondocks its all dogs, gators and pickup trucks. Chess players are akin to them "latte drinkers". Gotta go almost forty miles to a Big Box Bookstore or to a Specialty Coffee House to get a chess game. Coffee house opened as a coffee house with computers and games but then along came wireless and laptops and so they switched to exotic coffees and managed to hang on.
Now... I'd probably do Pawn to King Four and fall asleep.
You really haven't played in a long time. That notation hasn't been used since the 1970's. It's e4, baby!Quote: FleaStiffNow... I'd probably do Pawn to King Four and fall asleep.
I've pretty much played every day since about 1981. Online or in tournaments. The best site out there, if you care, is http://chess24.com. You can watch live tournaments, with video commentary. And check out the Youtube chess lectures put out by the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis. They are fantastic. https://saintlouischessclub.org/ I'm an old FICS guy myself.
Quote: teliotYou really haven't played in a long time. That notation hasn't been used since the 1970's. It's e4, baby!
I was on a chess kick in high school and used the "pawn to kings's four" notation as well. This was in the early 1980's.
I think teliot is the one to beat in chess around here. We had a chess tournament about five years ago here. I forgot who won. All I know is I lost in a single elimination against odiusgambit.
Based on rating, maybe (I'm 2108 USCF and 2100 at FICS). But, that's only a number. My practical tournament strength has declined mightily.Quote: WizardI was on a chess kick in high school and used the "pawn to kings's four" notation as well. This was in the early 1980's.
I think teliot is the one to beat in chess around here. We had a chess tournament about five years ago here. I forgot who won. All I know is I lost in a single elimination against odiusgambit.
Totally caught the bug during the Fischer Spassky match
Everybody was playing chess back then
The local mall held a tournament
I was playing all my neighbors
those were the days, chess being popular with the masses
I'm a huge Fischer fan. Watched all the documentaries on Fischer
I still play sometimes on an app against a weak computer opponent.
Love the game
Still fascinates me
I still watch replays of 13 yr old Fischer's greatest game where he sacrifices a Queen against Donald Byrne
The moves Fischer makes are amazing
Too see the damage he can do with a Knight by sacrificing his queen, WOW
I have studied this game multiple times.
I wish I was a better player
Grab the app "droidfish" - it uses Stockfish 8 for an engine.Quote: terapinedI still play sometimes on an app against a weak computer opponent.
As for Fischer/Spassky, I greatly enjoyed this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnPeGmtjkNo
Quote: teliotGrab the app "droidfish" - it uses Stockfish 8 for an engine.
I like playing a weak computer opponent just for fun
To me chess is like a puzzle
I like to figure out the puzzle and win
I don't like to play a strong computer
because I don't like getting into a situation where I look at the board and whatever I do, I'm f**ked :-(
Me too, absolutely. I play machines rated 1600 to about 2200 for fun. Stockfish is rated over 3000 :(Quote: terapinedI like playing a weak computer opponent just for fun
Also, I find it fun to have Arena analyze my games after I play, so I can see the alternatives and what I missed. That can also be a lot of fun. Just saying.
http://www.playwitharena.com/
I remember that once, during a boring lecture, I used that notation to play a chess game with myself. During a break, an attractive young girl next to me asked what are those numbers you were writing and I replied "Instructions from voices that I hear". She never sat next to me again.Quote: WizardI was on a chess kick in high school and used the "pawn to kings's four" notation as well. This was in the early 1980's.
I recall announcing at a Times Square chess club "that's the end then" but my oponent insisted on playing it out so it was seven checks in a row followed by check mate and all the men watching the little kid play chess cheered. That was the last time I ever got taken to that club.
Open air chess was nicer. I recall one player all he ever said to anyone was "Ein, Swie, Drie...well, move!" Some people slapped those time clocks so hard they broke. Retired old men, street kids, NYU students.
Want to know how to be certain of a victory over these fifty cent a game street hustlers? When he asks what you do for a living, say "I'm an IRS agent". Guaranteed win.
In New York Washington Square they cleaned that up. No gambling - you pay $5 for a game with one of them in the park, win or lose. I paid the $5 against this guy last summer when I was visiting NY, just for the experience. After I beat him, he gave me a free game. After I beat him again, he gave me another free game. Then we chatted for a bit. I asked him about his life. He said he had a wife and two kids and this was his income. He said it's really tough, especially during the winter.Quote: FleaStiffWant to know how to be certain of a victory over these fifty cent a game street hustlers? When he asks what you do for a living, say "I'm an IRS agent". Guaranteed win.
Meanwhile you can find free chess in the parks elsewhere, sponsored by the city. They provide tables and clocks. Again, no gambling and they watch it closely.
I've played lots of speed chess in DuPont circle in DC. Never once did I gamble on it but I could see others exchanging money sometimes. I've also played in Atlanta for free.
Quote: teliotIn New York Washington Square they cleaned that up. No gambling - you pay $5 for a game with one of them in the park, win or lose. I paid the $5 against this guy last summer when I was visiting NY, just for the experience. After I beat him, he gave me a free game. After I beat him again, he gave me another free game. Then we chatted for a bit. I asked him about his life. He said he had a wife and two kids and this was his income. He said it's really tough, especially during the winter.
Meanwhile you can find free chess in the parks elsewhere, sponsored by the city. They provide tables and clocks. Again, no gambling and they watch it closely.
I wonder why it's illegal? Chess is a game of skill, not chance. Also, most States have a clause that social gambling is legal.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13I wonder why it's illegal?
Allow me...
Quote: teliotIn NY...
You're welcome.
Quote: FaceAllow me...
You're welcome.
Ahh yes. Forgive me. I live in Arizona. I'm accustom to a few more personal freedoms.
ZCore13
Quote: EvenBobwomen were
dumber then. Supposedly.
I agree but be careful, in todays American society, you could get strung up for saying something like this. It's a good thing you said women on this forum cause if it was about the LBGT or other types you might get suspended. Women bashing is no problem here!! Bash away!
Want proof? Just look at the title of this thread.
I usually play 30 minute games (that gives a maximum of 30 minutes to each player). If I play shorter games then I run into significant time trouble. I'm not fast like some players but I have a pretty good theory background.
To the forum:
If I could do one thing to make my game better it would without a doubt be to quit making obvious mistakes. Have it I left a piece unprotected? Do I have any pieces in line with each other that are open to an x-ray attack? Do I have any pinned pieces that cannot protect certain squares? When I move a piece with a certain intention what am I now not protecting or leaving behind that is worse off?
When I first went to lichess.org on January 8th, I thought my rating might be around 1500, but the site showed me where I really belong. I went down to 1280 pretty quickly. Now I've worked myself back up to 1501. I choose games with people that have a rating of between 1400 and 1700 (that way I don't have to get stuck playing somebody rated 1850 where I would have little chance) and I choose black or white to get a more-fair rating. But of course if I beat someone with the higher rating my rating goes up quite a bit. It's interesting how the ratings work. When I was about 1460 I played a guy rated about 1645 or thereabouts. We had a draw, but I gained six points and he lost six points (I guess drawing against a higher hated player bodes well for someone rated 200+ points less. ChessOK.com is also a fun site; there are a lot of problems that you can solve at different levels of difficulty.
I've pulled the Fried Liver attack on several people. You can tell by how long they take to respond to some of the moves whether they are familiar with the line or not. The Blackburne Shilling gambit is fun too. Or how about the Fishing Pole trap? Or the Albin counter gambit? (I've laid that one several times and no one has taken the bait.)
I played an old Greek every day and never beat him and probably never would. Maybe he cheated, that's possible.Quote: AxelWolfIf there's a significant gap in skill it's usually not fun for either player, especially for the person who's always dominating. I guess you can stat handicapping but that never feels that good for the weaker player.
Perhaps I missed the joke?Quote: onenickelmiracleI played an old Greek every day and never beat him and probably never would. Maybe he cheated, that's possible.
Online?
I'm not sure how someone would cheat face to face unless they were using an electronic device. Unless they were playing for money I don't see the point.
Happening all the time these days ....Quote: AxelWolfI'm not sure how someone would cheat face to face unless they were using an electronic device.
https://en.chessbase.com/post/yet-another-case-of-cheating-in-chess
https://en.chessbase.com/post/new-case-of-cheating-in-chess
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/chess/11531055/Grandmaster-makes-bad-move-after-being-caught-cheating-at-chess-in-a-lavatory.html
It seems a harsh rule, but it prevents someone from picking up a piece and "changing his mind" about moving the piece .... in order to put the piece in a new spot instead of returning it to where it came from. If an argument erupts then the game might get restarted, benefiting the cheater, or perhaps instead thereby moving twice in the same turn doesn't get caught.
Quote: odiousgambitone way to cheat live is revealed by the rule "touch, move" - meaning of course if you touch a piece you must move it.
It seems a harsh rule, but it prevents someone from picking up a piece and "changing his mind" about moving the piece .... in order to put the piece in a new spot instead of returning it to where it came from. If an argument erupts then the game might get restarted, benefiting the cheater, or perhaps instead thereby moving twice in the same turn doesn't get caught.
I always played by the touch any piece you want.
Move any piece you want and move it back as long as you never let go of the piece
Once you make a move and let go of the piece, then its an official move
I have no doubt there is a significant amount of cheating going on when there is something at stake. I'm sure people use computers online when there is nothing at stake and do it just for kicks(kinda like trolls do).Quote: teliotHappening all the time these days ....
https://en.chessbase.com/post/yet-another-case-of-cheating-in-chess
https://en.chessbase.com/post/new-case-of-cheating-in-chess
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/chess/11531055/Grandmaster-makes-bad-move-after-being-caught-cheating-at-chess-in-a-lavatory.html
I was referring to when two guys get together and play for fun.
Quote: AxelWolfI was referring to when two guys get together and play for fun.
You must live in a different world. People lie, cheat, steal, kill, rape and whatever all the time for no reason. Millionaires shoplifting candy bars. Friends lying to each other just to lie. Two guys playing a friendly game for nothing and cheating each other just because. If one guy didn't cheat this time it's because he is setting his friend up for something bigger down the road. Long gone are the days of loyalty, trust and self sacrifice... that is to say if they ever really did exist.
A 30 minute clock is what I have it set at as well. I just play random people no matter what their rating is. I have the rating turned off. I do that because I will just quit if I start a game and they dont move fast enough. I don't want to sit and wait for the clock to wind down, I want to play. It also gets annoying when people are losing so they just let the clock run down hopping you will give up, or they will keep offering draws or take backs. They even get tricky and switch up what they are offering and then the position of accept or decline has changed and you end up clicking the wrong one. I'm sure there are options that dont allow them to make them offers, or you can just not do anything and force them to move, but again I just want to play chess and not play other silly games.Quote: GreasyjohnAxel,
I usually play 30 minute games (that gives a maximum of 30 minutes to each player). If I play shorter games then I run into significant time trouble. I'm not fast like some players but I have a pretty good theory background.
To the forum:
If I could do one thing to make my game better it would without a doubt be to quit making obvious mistakes. Have it I left a piece unprotected? Do I have any pieces in line with each other that are open to an x-ray attack? Do I have any pinned pieces that cannot protect certain squares? When I move a piece with a certain intention what am I now not protecting or leaving behind that is worse off?
When I first went to lichess.org on January 8th, I thought my rating might be around 1500, but the site showed me where I really belong. I went down to 1280 pretty quickly. Now I've worked myself back up to 1501. I choose games with people that have a rating of between 1400 and 1700 (that way I don't have to get stuck playing somebody rated 1850 where I would have little chance) and I choose black or white to get a more-fair rating. But of course if I beat someone with the higher rating my rating goes up quite a bit. It's interesting how the ratings work. When I was about 1460 I played a guy rated about 1645 or thereabouts. We had a draw, but I gained six points and he lost six points (I guess drawing against a higher hated player bodes well for someone rated 200+ points less. ChessOK.com is also a fun site; there are a lot of problems that you can solve at different levels of difficulty.
I've pulled the Fried Liver attack on several people. You can tell by how long they take to respond to some of the moves whether they are familiar with the line or not. The Blackburne Shilling gambit is fun too. Or how about the Fishing Pole trap? Or the Albin counter gambit? (I've laid that one several times and no one has taken the bait.)
I too sometimes make big blunders when I'm playing, that's out of hast.
I focus more on what I'm doing and not enough on what they are doing.
Quote: terapinedI always played by the touch any piece you want.
Move any piece you want and move it back as long as you never let go of the piece
Once you make a move and let go of the piece, then its an official move
That's a friendly way to play, but if your opponent insists on 'touch, move' he is following more standard rules - and I hope I was able to demonstrate why the rule makes sense, isn't just being shitty.
Quote: teliotBlitz chess (5 min per side and under) doesn't use touch move. It's clock move. I've never played touch move blitz and I've played hundreds (maybe thousands) of hours of blitz.
Watch out for cheaters then.†
Of course everything changes playing on the computer - the board can't be re-arranged on the sly - I assume you don't meant that.
† this is levity, or something meant to be jocular in tone. I don't use emoticons.
I love Cornbread and his chess chatter
An 11 year old boy beats him twice :-)
How jocular of you!Quote: odiousgambitWatch out for cheaters then.
In the last 2 years of grad school, the grad students played blitz every afternoon - I also went to the chess club and played blitz, sometimes all day. I ran a chess club for 7 years at Ohio University. We met twice a week, Wednesday nights and Saturdays 11 to 5. It was non-stop blitz. On top of that, blitz at tournaments and blitz with friends. I also ran the GO club and competed in local weekly duplicate bridge games. Thinking back -- zow. Holy crap. Since 1995 or so, I've played blitz online almost every day at FICS along with watching chess games at various sites. Since 1995, the number of long games (longer than 30 minutes per side) I've played probably numbers under 20. According to the records on FICS, I've played 15929 games of blitz and 8435 games of bullet chess (2 min. per side) there.
In all that time, I never saw a hint of cheating in live chess - online you run into it daily.
Quote: monet0412You must live in a different world. People lie, cheat, steal, kill, rape and whatever all the time for no reason. Millionaires shoplifting candy bars. Friends lying to each other just to lie. Two guys playing a friendly game for nothing and cheating each other just because. If one guy didn't cheat this time it's because he is setting his friend up for something bigger down the road. Long gone are the days of loyalty, trust and self sacrifice... that is to say if they ever really did exist.
Sometimes I want to say "Hear! Hear!" and sometimes I feel that the comment is excessive. Perhaps its like marriage: a fiendish fatal plot wherein two polar opposites unite in ignorance. The business world seems to have cheaters and victims in it also.
I think poker is largely to 'win' rather than to 'make money'. Too many businessmen would rather make money cheating than make money legitimately simply because it is more fun that way.
I've been competing in tournaments since 1998. Highest FIDE and national rating obtained was above 2100. As of two years ago, I have pretty much given up all ambitions of ever obtaining master rating in FIDE or national rating. AP has taken some of my attention away.
On another note. Cheating with a device at live tournaments have occured more frequently at tournsments with large prize funds. There was a news article at Chessbase.com exposing the busted individual in the washroom with photos and everything.
