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AZDuffman
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December 4th, 2022 at 8:06:38 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Folks, this is swinging way off topic.
As absolutely fascinating as who has dated whom is, that is clearly NOT about forum rules and policies.

I'm guilty too. I'd expect a thread split, lockdown, and suggestion to take it somewhere else (like DT) to be coming soon.
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Isn't that your job to say? You are in green.
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darkoz
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December 4th, 2022 at 8:07:26 PM permalink
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I have had relationships with transgender women.

Haven't had one in a long time. Over a decade. I have children and grandchildren. My children know about my "adventures". Not my grandchildren unless their mom told them. I don't feel that's for me to discuss with them.

If I saw how a transgender woman looked before their transformation I would vomit. Not attracted to men.

Transwomen aren't a problem.

Watch the TV series Pose. It gives a good look into the lives of transgender women.
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Based on your response about vomiting I have to assume that your relationships with transgender women were limited to those who had surgically transitioned. There are many trans women who havent had any surgeries so they still have male body parts. Are those trans women not women to you?
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The male shape turns me off. Not a female shape with male sex organ.

Is there some psychoanalytic reason you are pursuing this?
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I'm not even sure what you mean by that. Someone that looks like a man is a turn off and that would make you vomit. But someone that looks like a woman but has a man's sex organ wouldn't? That's rather surprising and interesting.

I'm interested because you are the only person I've ever seen say a trans woman is truly a woman, that you are straight, and have indeed been with trans women. You appear to be a rarity.
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Since this isn't the point of this thread I will just answer one last time on the subject.

It's not rare at all. First season of Pose is pretty much about straight men who date trans women.

The film the Crying Game is about straight men who date trans women.

It's maybe not discussed much but it's not rare at all
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ThisIsMyJam
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December 4th, 2022 at 8:18:53 PM permalink
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I have had relationships with transgender women.

Haven't had one in a long time. Over a decade. I have children and grandchildren. My children know about my "adventures". Not my grandchildren unless their mom told them. I don't feel that's for me to discuss with them.

If I saw how a transgender woman looked before their transformation I would vomit. Not attracted to men.

Transwomen aren't a problem.

Watch the TV series Pose. It gives a good look into the lives of transgender women.
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Based on your response about vomiting I have to assume that your relationships with transgender women were limited to those who had surgically transitioned. There are many trans women who havent had any surgeries so they still have male body parts. Are those trans women not women to you?
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The male shape turns me off. Not a female shape with male sex organ.

Is there some psychoanalytic reason you are pursuing this?
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I'm not even sure what you mean by that. Someone that looks like a man is a turn off and that would make you vomit. But someone that looks like a woman but has a man's sex organ wouldn't? That's rather surprising and interesting.

I'm interested because you are the only person I've ever seen say a trans woman is truly a woman, that you are straight, and have indeed been with trans women. You appear to be a rarity.
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Since this isn't the point of this thread I will just answer one last time on the subject.

It's not rare at all. First season of Pose is pretty much about straight men who date trans women.

The film the Crying Game is about straight men who date trans women.

It's maybe not discussed much but it's not rare at all
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Ah, yes. I forgot they never make rare subjects the focus of television and film.

My last comment as well.
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December 4th, 2022 at 8:43:36 PM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Folks, this is swinging way off topic.
As absolutely fascinating as who has dated whom is, that is clearly NOT about forum rules and policies.

I'm guilty too. I'd expect a thread split, lockdown, and suggestion to take it somewhere else (like DT) to be coming soon.
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Isn't that your job to say? You are in green.
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Yes, but I'm guilty too, so I'm being all easygoing and mellow instead of dispensing my usual cruelties of crushing every voice not singing hymns in unison under the iron heel of administrative overreach.

Still, if everyone takes the hint... we might be overlooked when the usual suspects are rounded up.
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December 4th, 2022 at 9:03:04 PM permalink
Most straight men who date trans women are considered by the Alpha males to be Betas. As the resident swinger of the forum, and most experienced in the sexual arts it has been my experience these men often have been rejected by many genetic women. They do not identify as gay and are attracted to the female form. Often these trans women are more attractive then some overweight unkept genetic females. So the rejected beta male can pull more attractive partners because the trans women are often looking for acceptance from basically any straight male. Now this is not something Iím into but if two humans can find happiness with each other then so be it. Most democratic leaning men seem to gravitate toward trans women while independent, and republican men are more attracted to genetic women. However more men who identify as in the closet gay tend to lean republican.

At the swinger parties I attend monthly There is no discussion of politics. Open gender parties are welcoming to trans women but not gay men. The hierarchy is still the same as the Alpha males will still have first choice of sexual partners. Betas are normally in attendance with their wife but do not perform or participate in the traditional sense. Alphas are determined in the circles I participate in by their length, girth, and stamina. If you are a great lover and provide amazing experiences for the women in attendance the group will elevate you. Young bucks often show up and are sometimes unable to perform when the lights are on. Stage fright I guess but the beauty of this arrangement is everyone is understanding.
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December 4th, 2022 at 9:13:24 PM permalink
Quote: Seedvalue

Most straight men who date trans women are considered by the Alpha males to be Betas. As the resident swinger of the forum, and most experienced in the sexual arts it has been my experience these men often have been rejected by many genetic women. They do not identify as gay and are attracted to the female form. Often these trans women are more attractive then some overweight unkept genetic females. So the rejected beta male can pull more attractive partners because the trans women are often looking for acceptance from basically any straight male. Now this is not something Iím into but if two humans can find happiness with each other then so be it. Most democratic leaning men seem to gravitate toward trans women while independent, and republican men are more attracted to genetic women. However more men who identify as in the closet gay tend to lean republican.

At the swinger parties I attend monthly There is no discussion of politics. Open gender parties are welcoming to trans women but not gay men. The hierarchy is still the same as the Alpha males will still have first choice of sexual partners. Betas are normally in attendance with their wife but do not perform or participate in the traditional sense. Alphas are determined in the circles I participate in by their length, girth, and stamina. If you are a great lover and provide amazing experiences for the women in attendance the group will elevate you. Young bucks often show up and are sometimes unable to perform when the lights are on. Stage fright I guess but the beauty of this arrangement is everyone is understanding.
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I probably am a Beta male because I remember choosing Beta over VHS

Beta tapes were definitely shorter in length physically than VHS. But the quality and performance was better!!!!
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December 5th, 2022 at 2:00:41 AM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Folks, this is swinging way off topic.
As absolutely fascinating as who has dated whom is, that is clearly NOT about forum rules and policies.

I'm guilty too. I'd expect a thread split, lockdown, and suggestion to take it somewhere else (like DT) to be coming soon.
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Isn't that your job to say? You are in green.
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Yes, but I'm guilty too, so I'm being all easygoing and mellow instead of dispensing my usual cruelties of crushing every voice not singing hymns in unison under the iron heel of administrative overreach.

Still, if everyone takes the hint... we might be overlooked when the usual suspects are rounded up.
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For once, I agree with AZDuffman.
Members are not taking the hint.
Maybe it's time to use this thread as intended and discuss those members who are about to get added to the suspension list. Where's the cattleprod when it's needed?
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December 5th, 2022 at 2:50:27 AM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Dieter

Folks, this is swinging way off topic.
As absolutely fascinating as who has dated whom is, that is clearly NOT about forum rules and policies.

I'm guilty too. I'd expect a thread split, lockdown, and suggestion to take it somewhere else (like DT) to be coming soon.
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Isn't that your job to say? You are in green.
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Yes, but I'm guilty too, so I'm being all easygoing and mellow instead of dispensing my usual cruelties of crushing every voice not singing hymns in unison under the iron heel of administrative overreach.

Still, if everyone takes the hint... we might be overlooked when the usual suspects are rounded up.
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For once, I agree with AZDuffman.
Members are not taking the hint.
Maybe it's time to use this thread as intended and discuss those members who are about to get added to the suspension list. Where's the cattleprod when it's needed?
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I was going to make a point about this but you are so polite here I will wait for the thread split if any. I think Wizard may be yelling some new swear words when he logs back in and sees all this.
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December 5th, 2022 at 5:16:44 AM permalink
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Where is PokerGrinder when everyone is discussing Transgenders and Transsexuals? He knows this subject inside and out.

He's probably just a little slow coming out talking about the subject.
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Oy vay Wolfy, like I said just cause I date Asian woman doesnít mean they arenít females who were all born female lol.
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December 5th, 2022 at 5:19:42 AM permalink
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Where is PokerGrinder when everyone is discussing Transgenders and Transsexuals? He knows this subject inside and out.

He's probably just a little slow coming out talking about the subject.
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Oy vay Wolfy, like I said just cause I date Asian woman doesnít mean they arenít females who were all born female lol.
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