Flirting with female dealers
Does that ever happen?
Quote: debitncreditDoes anyone have any story about flirting with female dealers or cocktail waitresses leading to something more (phone numbers, dates, etc.).
Does that ever happen?
You bet it does.
Where do you think the phrase "I got lucky at the craps table" came from?
Quote: BigJerI don't flirt with them. They always flirt with me and want my phone number..............
Yes, they do indeed have an EVIl sense of humor !
Quote: BuzzardYes, they do indeed have an EVIl sense of humor !
Nah! They love me. lol.
Quote: debitncreditDoes anyone have any story about flirting with female dealers or cocktail waitresses leading to something more (phone numbers, dates, etc.).
Does that ever happen?
Where to begin...
Ok, good news first: Sure, it happens. In a world of infinite possibilities over an infinite number of trials it's bound to happen.
Now the bad news: Even if it did happen to you, and it probably won't unless you meet some very narrow guidelines*, you probably wouldn't actually want to. It's one of those "Nicer to daydream about than to really experience" kind of things.
Let me share some frank, but very realistic news with you guys. I take my breaks with these women you lust after and they either laugh at how pathetic your attempts are, or are just appalled that you think you can get someone like them.
*If you have enough money (and this is completely subjective and on a case-by-case basis) you can surely get the attention of the gold digger variety
Quote: MonkeyMonkeyWhere to begin...
Ok, good news first: Sure, it happens. In a world of infinite possibilities over an infinite number of trials it's bound to happen.
Now the bad news: Even if it did happen to you, and it probably won't unless you meet some very narrow guidelines*, you probably wouldn't actually want to. It's one of those "Nicer to daydream about than to really experience" kind of things.
Let me share some frank, but very realistic news with you guys. I take my breaks with these women you lust after and they either laugh at how pathetic your attempts are, or are just appalled that you think you can get someone like them.
*If you have enough money (and this is completely subjective and on a case-by-case basis) you can surely get the attention of the gold digger variety
I agree. They have so many drunks and losers hitting on them that they think it makes them the hottest. Inflated egos.
Get this there is this one waitress at a place I go to who rubs up against me to serve me a drink. But I know it's all for tips. Some guys don't and the the CWs think it makes them hot. In fact I would barely give most of them the time of day.
Quote: NicksGamingStuffI agree, it is usually a facade to obtain more tips. Some dealers hit on players though, so it works both ways.
I know it does.
Quote: debitncreditDoes anyone have any story about flirting with female dealers or cocktail waitresses leading to something more (phone numbers, dates, etc.).
Does that ever happen?
When I lived there during the late 70's, I dated some female dealers. All from downtown. Wasn't many on the strip back then.
When I am playing craps with a female dealer or boxperson, I am constantly surprised with how much off color joking goes on. I'm not put off by it, as I actually enjoy it, but I cannot help but think that this would NEVER fly in my workplace. I would be run up on sexual harassment charges so fast.......
My question to the dealers on this site, How do your employers handle sexual harassment in the workplace? Are you even warned about it? Is it permissible up to the point where a coworker complains, and then you have to watch what you say to that person?
The female dealers I have seen at craps all take the talk in stride, and some even dish it right back. My assumption is the females working in the casino sort of accept it as part of the job. Is that true?
Quote: NicksGamingStuffI agree, it is usually a facade to obtain more tips.
It definitely works on me.
To address the OP, several cocktail waitresses know me as the guy who gives bonus tips based on trivia questions. They can be very flirty with me, but I tend to think it is just for the tips and they actually enjoy the trivia.
Quote: RaleighCrapsThe female dealers I have seen at craps all take the talk in stride, and some even dish it right back. My assumption is the females working in the casino sort of accept it as part of the job. Is that true?
It was a long time ago, but I did have one date with a female dealer. She said that most of them are perfectly capable of dishing it right back at the men, and they would never report a customer, but it is simply tedious. It all sounds the same after a while. She seemed to appreciate that I spoke about other things. She actually asked me out.
Quote: debitncreditDoes anyone have any story about flirting with female dealers or cocktail waitresses leading to something more (phone numbers, dates, etc.).
Does that ever happen?
I am dating a Hostess now. You need something going for you. Good looks, personality, and/or $$ ha ha
Quote: BigJerI don't flirt with them. They always flirt with me and want my phone number..............
When I cashed out at the Dunes 20 years ago with 80 black chips, I had a customer pick me up. You must be a High Roller :-)
The BAD news is they consider me harmless. GRRRR
I was in there playing poker and she brought me a beer, I tried to chat her up for a few minutes, but she said, "I'm sorry, it's really busy in here today, otherwise I'd chat because you're kind of cute." In any event, when I left, I ended up running into her at a nearby gas station and said, "Hey, you're the waitress that was working at Harrah's earlier." She verified that, and I said, "Let's see if you were being honest or just fishing for tips, here's my cell, give me a call and we'll go out sometime."
She asks, "What do you have going on right now?"
I replied, "Nothing, really."
She said, "I'm free and hungry, do you want to go get dinner?"
I ended up following her back to Harrah's where she parked and I took her to Cedar Cafe in Parkville. We went out two or three other times, but it never led up to anything, because we were at 100% disagreement politically. Additionally, we had absolutely nothing else in common, either. You really don't want to completely run out of stuff to talk about by your third date...I will say that she suggested we go back to her place after the second date, but I legitimately did have to go to work because it was my night auditor's night off at that hotel.
For once, I am speechless.
In Vegas, and other vacation destinations, I would imagine things are worse. The dealers/waitresses know that you are only in town temporarily, while they live their permanently. Thus, if you are hitting on them, there's only one thing on your mind. I'm sure that the majority of them do not believe you are hitting on them because you want them to move back to your home and live with you while they look for another job or you support them for the rest of your lives.
All that being said, and assuming I'm talking to someone who is single, the most effective method seems to be asking them where they hang out after they get off work. Like many people, they enjoy getting a drink somewhere after work. If they're willing to tell you where that is, that's a pretty good sign. If they're evasive about it, that's a solid sign in the opposite direction.
Quote: WizardIt definitely works on me.
To address the OP, several cocktail waitresses know me as the guy who gives bonus tips based on trivia questions. They can be very flirty with me, but I tend to think it is just for the tips and they actually enjoy the trivia.
Quote: Mission146I had a few dates with a cocktail waitress for Harrah's-NKC once, long time ago, late 2005 or early 2006, don't remember.
I was in there playing poker and she brought me a beer, I tried to chat her up for a few minutes, but she said, "I'm sorry, it's really busy in here today, otherwise I'd chat because you're kind of cute." In any event, when I left, I ended up running into her at a nearby gas station and said, "Hey, you're the waitress that was working at Harrah's earlier." She verified that, and I said, "Let's see if you were being honest or just fishing for tips, here's my cell, give me a call and we'll go out sometime."
She asks, "What do you have going on right now?"
I replied, "Nothing, really."
She said, "I'm free and hungry, do you want to go get dinner?"
I ended up following her back to Harrah's where she parked and I took her to Cedar Cafe in Parkville. We went out two or three other times, but it never led up to anything, because we were at 100% disagreement politically. Additionally, we had absolutely nothing else in common, either. You really don't want to completely run out of stuff to talk about by your third date...I will say that she suggested we go back to her place after the second date, but I legitimately did have to go to work because it was my night auditor's night off at that hotel.
Moderators is pimps too, go on and brush your shoulders off!!!
Now, if you don't mind, let me give you and other men on here some pointers. :) Someone else on here mentioned that the girls might want you to talk about something else beside sexual innuendo. This is very true. She might have 30 men a day tell her she's hot and while that might be great, having a guy make a more specific and genuine complement would stand out and be very appealing. I think trying to find some common ground that is not what she talks about 8 hours a day, 5 days a week would be great too. I don't know if handing the dealers your card is allowed, but that is how I would approach a dealer/want to be approached. Either that or suggesting you meet in a nearby, public safe place after her shift to buy her dinner. I guess this is just patronizing which is not my intention. Good luck with whomever has caught your eye!
Good grammar is sexy.Quote: drussell0208Good luck with whomever has caught your eye!
There is one dealer at Turning Stone who is attractive and is an excellent dealer. She is great with the cards and chips (I look for her on blackjack but I've played craps at her table once and she was also very good there, knowing what you are going to bet before you even put it up etc), has an excellent personality, can carry a conversation while dealing very quickly and efficiently. She really makes it fun to play even when you are losing. She gets hit on a lot but has a way of dishing it right back, kind of being flirty but being firm and professional too. Perhaps the most valuable thing she does in my opinion, is she acknowledges every tip with a thank you and a pat on the table, then yells something unique when she drops it in her toke box. She most have over 100 things she yells, ranging from "Dealer money" to "Beer money" to "Oh yeaaa!" Anyways the reason I tell this story is her tables are always full (unless she is in the high limit room), and she frequently fills up her toke box a couple times during the night and they have to call security to empty it. I've only seen a few dealers ever need their toke box emptied mid shift, but it's a regular occurrence for her. I have no doubt that if she were in a keep your own tips casino she would be making 6 figures.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI do not understand why a good dealer like this would work in a place where they don't get to keep their own tips. She is just throwing money away.
The casino winmonkeyspit3 was talking about (Turning Stone) is in Verona, NY. Its the only live action casino within 3 hours' drive. The nearest is probably the Niagara Seneca Casino in Niagara Falls (3 hrs), Mohawk Casino in Hogansburg, NY (3 hrs) or the Connecticut casinos (4 hrs). Even if her talent reliably shows up in the toke box, switching employers is not practical. They are the only game in town.
Quote: teddysGood grammar is sexy.
But you can forgive drussell0208 for this one mistake, right?
I always forgive "whomever" mistakes unless it was used pretentiously.
Tough one since it's after a preposition and they use a passive construction. Judge not, lest ye be judged . . . all is forgiven.Quote: CrystalMathBut you can forgive drussell0208 for this one mistake, right?
I always forgive "whomever" mistakes unless it was used pretentiously.
Quote: WizardIt definitely works on me.
To address the OP, several cocktail waitresses know me as the guy who gives bonus tips based on trivia questions. They can be very flirty with me, but I tend to think it is just for the tips and they actually enjoy the trivia.
It could be that they enjoy the fact you ask them questions and treat them as if they may actually have a brain and not just a good figure. It must be a nice change of pace for them!
Quote: FarFromVegasIt could be that they enjoy the fact you ask them questions and treat them as if they may actually have a brain and not just a good figure. It must be a nice change of pace for them!
NO! it's the tips.
Quote: debitncreditWhat would be a casual but not a creepy way to ask out a female blackjack dealer?
I think "Wanna go get a yummy meal?" would be a sure winner
Quote: thezoneThe hard truth of the matter is it all depends on the individual. If you've got some game, anyone is for the taking. That being said, If you don't have game, nor looks, nor personality... then you better have coin!
That leaves me 0/4
Quote: debitncreditI've noticed this one dealer (older looking, but pretty hot) eyeing me before. I've never played at her table and not much in that casino. I thought I was just imagining, but yesterday, I walked by her and she gave me another sexy look, and I heard her whisper to a pit boss, "I like this guy." I might play at her table and chat her up next time. What would be a casual but not a creepy way to ask out a female blackjack dealer? "Want to get a drink after work?"?
Play at her table. Talk to her. Neat the end of your play/conversion, ask her what time her shift ends. If she tells you, ask her if she'd be interested in getting something to eat/drink? If she says she can't that night because of a previous commitment, tell her to give you a call sometime when she is free. If she says ok and nothing else, keep playing. If she says ok and mentions she doesn't have your phone number, give it to her, and then keep playing. The former means she isn't interested in going out, the latter means she is interested in going out, but really can't that night, and gave you a legit excuse. Once she has your number, let her call you and take it from there. Whichever situation it is, keep playing until the hour is over or you hit your win/loss goal. You don't want to leave after asking this question, because you don't want her thinking your only reason for playing is to hit on her.
Quote: debitncreditI've noticed this one dealer (older looking, but pretty hot) eyeing me before. I've never played at her table and not much in that casino. I thought I was just imagining, but yesterday, I walked by her and she gave me another sexy look, and I heard her whisper to a pit boss, "I like this guy." I might play at her table and chat her up next time. What would be a casual but not a creepy way to ask out a female blackjack dealer? "Want to get a drink after work?"?
I've always been instructed to never date or see socially anyone that I deal to. So, a good opener might be, "How'd you like to lose your gaming license with me?"
At any rate she'd have to tell you her number because it's highly unlikely she could accept a piece of paper from you. And writing her number down and giving it to you is also pretty much out of the question. There are a lot of cameras to witness the note passing.
Play at her table and DON'T SAY A WORD. Smile, be polite and cordial, and wait for her to make the first move. If she really has interest, she will.
Unfortunately, if there are others at the table she might not be able to make the first move the first time you are at the table, or the second time.
If she really has the hots for you, she will try to get the word to you somehow, perhaps through another dealer.
If you misread her "tells" and if you really can't read lips, or if you imagined what she said to the pit boss, you could be creating a very awkward situation for her and for yourself.
So give it time. Angelina Jolie might become single in the interim.
Quote: MonkeyMonkey
*If you have enough money (and this is completely subjective and on a case-by-case basis) you can surely get the attention of the gold digger variety
So you're saying they are women?
Eyeing you or eyeing your wallet and toke potential. Or eyeing the cute young girl who was behind you?Quote: debitncreditI've noticed this one dealer eyeing me
Quote: gts4everSo you're saying they are women?
So you're saying you have difficulty with reading comprehension? I specifically said it was subjective and on a case-by-case basis. But you made your sexist intent clear so if that was the goal, mission accomplished.
Quote: MonkeyMonkeyI've always been instructed to never date or see socially anyone that I deal to. So, a good opener might be, "How'd you like to lose your gaming license with me?"
At any rate she'd have to tell you her number because it's highly unlikely she could accept a piece of paper from you. And writing her number down and giving it to you is also pretty much out of the question. There are a lot of cameras to witness the note passing.
Her telling you her number could be the BIGGEST MISTAKE OF HER LIFE!!!!
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2013/06/18/rejected-suiter-calls-for-10-years-after-one-failed-date/
Quote: MonkeyMonkeyI've always been instructed to never date or see socially anyone that I deal to. So, a good opener might be, "How'd you like to lose your gaming license with me?"
At any rate she'd have to tell you her number because it's highly unlikely she could accept a piece of paper from you. And writing her number down and giving it to you is also pretty much out of the question. There are a lot of cameras to witness the note passing.
I was interested in asking. You made a comment about "losing your gaming license". Was that just an attempt at humor or do you honestly believe you can lose your gaming license for dating a customer?
In my opinion these policies are company policies designed to stop collusion. Again, in my opinion the gaming board don't give much of a hoot who you date as long as you don't break any rules or don't get caught cheating/stealing/scamming ect. If you do then it becomes a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the amount of money involved.....THEN you will lose any gaming license you hold with the particular jurisdiction.
Having said that I dated a dealer once. She was super cute and I walked with her on a break and asked her if she wanted to go on a date. I was young, she was young, I figured why not ask. She said yes and she gave me her number. I went to her place to pick her up and there two things happened.
1) She was still living at home....not a deal breaker just an inconvenience.
2) She said good bye to a little 2 year old boy who I assumed was her mom and dads "late arrival" and her little brother. Turned out it was her 2 year old son she had out of wedlock with a notorious night club owner........
Needless to say things kinda didn't really work out as I planned :)
When ever you date a chick with a kid you know she's giving it up so that's the best opportunity there is! You know she probably doesn't get out much. That is a Sad story my friend.
KB1
Believe me if I had known this little bit of info I would never, ever have played a bad game such as Roulette just to get close to this girl :)
Thanks for the concern but I was so young it really didn't matter much. I just bounced back and found a nice Greek girl who took all kinds of advantage of little old me :)
It was day 13 back in 1994. I know I said 1993 elsewhere, but I'm remembering this Paul McCartney Concert on April 15th and I'm pretty sure is was 1994. Anyway, I was at the Desert Inn playing blackjack and this lady, and I mean lady sat down at the 3rd base seat and bought in for 50 bucks. She kept asking me for cigarettes and Bob the dealer wouldn't help me out even after a 125 dollar tip the previous month. I finally got up 1750 and instead of leaving the table, I tried to fight it out for 250 more. I only needed 250 bucks to have a 50 unit bankroll for the 100 dollar table. I ended up losing the 1750 I was up and the original 1750 I bought in for. I was pissed and went to the cashier cage and cashed out the money I had been stashing away for 3 months and then walked down to the Mirage and collected more stash. My winning streak ended at 12 days. I didn't go back to Vegas until 2008.
She was either a hooker, or an employee and I'm leaning towards shill because she reminded me of my mom based on her look. Not that my mom is a shill, but a little old to be a whore. 40ish, maybe as high as 50. Like I said. Not sure if it was a flirt. Damnit! I hate remembering that story. I want to blame the casino for not doing anything to get her off me, but the truth is, I was up 1750 and could have walked away and gone back to the roach motel down the street with win number 13 in my pocket.
