December 1st, 2016 at 6:16:27 AM
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The Wizard "Nomination for best parking garage -- The Wynn"
Unfortunately they are following suit and charging for parking as well.
I'm normally not a MaxPen conspiracy theorists, but I somehow imagine they all made this decision together.
If it wasn't counter productive for me I would root for all them to go broke and shut down.
Unfortunately they are following suit and charging for parking as well.
I'm normally not a MaxPen conspiracy theorists, but I somehow imagine they all made this decision together.
If it wasn't counter productive for me I would root for all them to go broke and shut down.
Last edited by: AxelWolf on Dec 1, 2016
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
December 1st, 2016 at 6:28:45 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfThe Wizard "Nomination for best parking garage -- The Wynn"
Unfortunately they are following suit and charging for parking as well.
I'm normally not a Maxpen conspiracy theorists normally, but I somehow imagine they all made this discussion together.
If it wasn't counter productive for me I would root for all them to go broke and shut down.
Or no conspiracy is needed. Wynn knows that if Caesars does it and the Venetian is sure to follow, they are at a disadvantage if they are not charging. They don't want to risk people parking there to avoid a fee elsewhere. Maybe Ruffin with try to use it as a tool to get new customers to TI, but he will fall in line too. As long as they continue to provide free parking to locals and higher card holders, I don't see a downside from a business standpoint. In the end, the tourists will suck it up and pay, fair or unfair, just as they have with Resort fees.
A better discussion is how much money has been lost by the accumulation of all these fees and changes in Gambling odds and such over the years. I don't see parking as the issue that will make the decision to not visit Vegas for some, but I do feel that some have stopped coming over the years with the total changes. But you could also argue there are more new customers visiting each month when you look at the numbers flying in to McCarren. Most of them do not get a rental car, so again no effect.
So are they risking the weekend SoCal customers who come to party? I doubt it, they seem to have no issue paying $20 for a drink after a $50 cover charge.
Just more of the man sticking it to the little guy and him saying "Thank You, can I have another?"
December 1st, 2016 at 6:41:30 AM
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They thin the herd, but the rest of the herd goes somewhere else. Say if there are only 3 restaurants in town and one says tip 18% mandatory. Good tippers dont care, business is good, service and profits go up. Meanwhile the tip stiffers congregate to the other two restaurants, they order water and grilled cheese, and they wont leave fast enough. The other two dont see the volume translating to profits, so they react with the same policy. The action of one creates the change, but the reason it worked is there are only three restaurants.
These fees might kill the Raiders deal/plan as well. Now the extra room tax, on top of "resort fees", on top of parking fees, might be too much. I think people will avoid these fees, as was mentioned, about not renting cars, and looking at other options. It will kill the casino hopping, because going to another casino or two will add up. The room providers are doing a good job of discouraging them from leaving. It might be too much of a nuisance in the end, I hope. It's majoring in the minors I think, focusing too much attention on the details, losing sight of the big picture and failing.
These fees might kill the Raiders deal/plan as well. Now the extra room tax, on top of "resort fees", on top of parking fees, might be too much. I think people will avoid these fees, as was mentioned, about not renting cars, and looking at other options. It will kill the casino hopping, because going to another casino or two will add up. The room providers are doing a good job of discouraging them from leaving. It might be too much of a nuisance in the end, I hope. It's majoring in the minors I think, focusing too much attention on the details, losing sight of the big picture and failing.
I am a robot.
December 1st, 2016 at 7:04:08 AM
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Build a volcano and people flock to see it but pay for rooms elsewhere.
Originate the Massive Buffet (circus circus) and people flock to it, but how many gamble there is the question.
I know there is no such thing as an 'average' gambler, but for many a room price, a buffet price or a resort fee mean little. A Discount in one thing is illusory. If he is bringing his wife and four kids, the buffet discount helps but he still has to budget in the movie and teenage games alcove. A lower air fare, a high air fare, often make no real decision-making effect.
Parking is the one thing that will anchor players to some degree, but if there is no movie arcade what can he do with the teenagers? Should he tell his wife to walk three blocks to the shopping? You see some of the weirdos in Vegas recently? Fleastiff is put to shame by them.
Sure casinos compete on many fronts. One casino booked a convention of scrap waste buyers; the casino across the street parked a truck full of scrap metal and offered free guesses. Some of those scrap buyers spent ten grand to get their 'free' guess into the jar at the courtesy desk.
With all the drunken gawkers in Vegas, I'd take a taxi anywhere.
Originate the Massive Buffet (circus circus) and people flock to it, but how many gamble there is the question.
I know there is no such thing as an 'average' gambler, but for many a room price, a buffet price or a resort fee mean little. A Discount in one thing is illusory. If he is bringing his wife and four kids, the buffet discount helps but he still has to budget in the movie and teenage games alcove. A lower air fare, a high air fare, often make no real decision-making effect.
Parking is the one thing that will anchor players to some degree, but if there is no movie arcade what can he do with the teenagers? Should he tell his wife to walk three blocks to the shopping? You see some of the weirdos in Vegas recently? Fleastiff is put to shame by them.
Sure casinos compete on many fronts. One casino booked a convention of scrap waste buyers; the casino across the street parked a truck full of scrap metal and offered free guesses. Some of those scrap buyers spent ten grand to get their 'free' guess into the jar at the courtesy desk.
With all the drunken gawkers in Vegas, I'd take a taxi anywhere.
Last edited by: FleaStiff on Dec 1, 2016