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June 26th, 2021 at 2:10:38 PM permalink
I'd like to draw attention to the thread RESORTS WORLD VIP OPENING JUNE 24, 2021. I am not trying to make another thread on the same topic. Let's discuss the grand opening party there and general comments about Resorts World here. I will be putting an emphasis on the game rules.

For now, here are some pictures. Give me a day or two to compile to notes on the odds. Generally speaking, they are on the stingy side, which I would expect of a high-end Strip properly.


This is a big illuminated sphere in the shopping area.


Where is that license plate from?


Trivia time! Phoenix is the only state capital to have an X?


Table game area


There is a collection of Rolls Royces in the corredor (why doesn't my computer like that spelling?) between the parking garage and casino. This is just one of them.


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June 26th, 2021 at 3:10:06 PM permalink
Here is my first installment of game odds information. This is on a randomly selected video poker machine on the main floor. There are very few video poker machines to be found. In fact, I found only four, but I don't claim to have seen every machine. Of those four, two were specialty games. One was Split Card and I forgot the other.

Here are the games available for the $0.25, $0.50 and $1 denomination. The average return is 96.43% and the maximum 96.87%.

Game Pay Table Return
Bonus Poker 6-5 96.87%
Bonus Poker Deluxe 7-5 96.25%
Deuces Wild Bonus Poker 12-4-3-2 96.22%
Deuces Wild 16-13 96.77%
Double Bonus 9-6-4 96.38%
Double Double Bonus 8-5 96.79%
Jacks or Better 7-5 96.15%
Triple Double Bonus 8-5 95.97%
Triple Triple Bonus 7-5 96.49%



Here are the games available for the $2, $5, $10, $25, and $50 denomination. The average return is 97.41% and the maximum 97.87%.

Game Pay Table Return
Bonus Poker 35,6,5 97.36%
Bonus Poker Deluxe 8-5 97.40%
Deuces Wild Bonus Poker 10-4-3-3 97.36%
Deuces Wild 20-12-9-4 97.06%
Double Bonus 9-6-5 97.81%
Double Double Bonus 9-5 97.87%
Jacks or Better 8-5 97.30%
Triple Double Bonus 9-5 97.02%
Triple Triple Bonus 8-5 97.55%


I have no idea of the value of points. There was an enormous line to apply for a player card.
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June 26th, 2021 at 3:42:51 PM permalink
There was a story here on the morning news about new technology that they are utilizing for a cashless casino experience. It seems you can use a phone app to buy in at slot machines and table games. I would be interested to learn more about this. The claim was that this technology is a response to Covid, I guess maybe safer than handling money. Seems like it could be more convenient than the current marker system. Maybe it is also too convenient, could induce people to gamble more than anticipated? Is the system optional or mandatory? Is anybody else doing anything like this?
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June 26th, 2021 at 5:59:31 PM permalink
Quote: PapaChubby

There was a story here on the morning news about new technology that they are utilizing for a cashless casino experience. It seems you can use a phone app to buy in at slot machines and table games. I would be interested to learn more about this. The claim was that this technology is a response to Covid, I guess maybe safer than handling money. Seems like it could be more convenient than the current marker system. Maybe it is also too convenient, could induce people to gamble more than anticipated? Is the system optional or mandatory? Is anybody else doing anything like this?



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June 26th, 2021 at 6:03:26 PM permalink
Here is my next installment of game rules at Resorts World. These are returns on a randomly chosen keno game on the main floor.

First, here are some games at the $0.25, $0.50, and $1 denomination. The average return is 89.69%.

Game Return
Spot 88.20%
Caveman 10X 89.63%
Caveman Plus 90.18%
Cleopatra 90.15%
Power 89.65%
Triple Power 90.31%


Second, here are some games at the $2 and $5 denominations. The average return is 92.00%.

Game Return
Spot 92.31%
Caveman 10X 91.28%
Cleopatra 92.08%
Power 91.90%
Triple Power 92.44%
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June 26th, 2021 at 6:04:01 PM permalink
The saga that started off as the Echelon project in 2007 and turned into Resorts World Vegas in 2013 has finally come to an end.
RIP Stardust. :(

Now the New Frontier casino next door was also demolished in 2007 but still sits empty.
After many twists and turns, it is currently owned by Wynn for a fraction of the cost. (His Encore casino is across the street.)
No cool name for this project though.

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June 26th, 2021 at 6:09:37 PM permalink
WARNING: Resorts World Las Vegas Prices are a JOKE🤡 - YouTube - Not Leaving Las Vegas - a Vegas Video Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olbpGjHXEFw
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June 26th, 2021 at 6:59:36 PM permalink
Any word on craps minimums as well as high limit craps table?
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June 26th, 2021 at 7:47:45 PM permalink
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There is a collection of Rolls Royces in the corredor (why doesn't my computer like that spelling?) between the parking garage and casino.


Because it's spelled "corridor" - apparently, "corredor" is Spanish for "runner."
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June 26th, 2021 at 8:42:59 PM permalink
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Any word on craps minimums as well as high limit craps table?



The minimum on all table games are high. I think the lowest it got in craps is $15. There is a little craps table in the high limit room. I've never seen that before. I didn't check the limits, but probably $100+. Not that you asked, but they do have 3-4-5x odds, liberal Field, and 15-30 "to one" hops.
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June 26th, 2021 at 8:50:58 PM permalink
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Because it's spelled "corridor" - apparently, "corredor" is Spanish for "runner."



That would explain it. Pass the dunce cap, again.
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June 26th, 2021 at 8:53:44 PM permalink
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WARNING: Resorts World Las Vegas Prices are a JOKE🤡



Just to verify that, I went to their direct site and requested a room for one week, July 9-15, at the Conrad. I chose that week because I didn't want to cover the July 4 weekend, which I'm sure would be worse.

You can see the average, including everything, is $339.

Boo for the resort me of $45 per night!

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June 26th, 2021 at 9:17:58 PM permalink
You just have to play Blackjack at $400 a hand for 4 hours a day to get the comped rooms for a week. $275 a hand for weekdays.
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June 27th, 2021 at 6:41:21 AM permalink
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Game Pay Table Return
Bonus Poker 6-5 96.87%
Bonus Poker Deluxe 7-5 96.25%
Deuces Wild Bonus Poker 12-4-3-2 96.22%
Deuces Wild 16-13 96.77%
Double Bonus 9-6-4 96.38%
Double Double Bonus 8-5 96.79%
Jacks or Better 7-5 96.15%
Triple Double Bonus 8-5 95.97%
Triple Triple Bonus 7-5 96.49%

Nice Pictures.

And YIKES on the Video Poker paytables ! I played 9/6 JoB ( 99.54 % ) at Cosmo yesterday at the $1 denom.

Aren't you supposed to have a grand opening with good paytables and then gradually pull back ?
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June 27th, 2021 at 9:36:07 AM permalink
Independent sports book sounds like it should be good.

But they are outsourcing their lines to the same third-party that is already being used in Las Vegas. The crazy thing is that they have already profiled some bettors and limited them to $250 on major markets even before they ever made their first bet. It's like they are going to try as hard as possible to be even more tacky than William Hill.
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June 27th, 2021 at 11:44:47 AM permalink
Wizard, what is a "liberal field" please?
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June 27th, 2021 at 1:03:52 PM permalink
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Wizard, what is a "liberal field" please?

Twelve pays 30 - 1!
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June 27th, 2021 at 8:10:32 PM permalink
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Twelve pays 30 - 1!

and a Hard 12 pays even more. :)

but on a serious side, liberal Field means on the Field bet, a 12 pays Triple instead of the stingy Double that alot of casinos are downgrading to
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June 27th, 2021 at 8:17:48 PM permalink
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and a Hard 12 pays even more.

but on a serious side, liberal Field means on the Field bet, a 12 pays Triple instead of the stingy Double that alot of casinos are downgrading to

Thanks.
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June 27th, 2021 at 9:19:45 PM permalink
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Wizard, what is a "liberal field" please?



The 12 pays 3 to 1.
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June 28th, 2021 at 3:39:43 AM permalink
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There is a collection of Rolls Royces in the corredor (why doesn't my computer like that spelling?) between the parking garage and casino. This is just one of them.

Read that the doors are unlocked
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June 29th, 2021 at 3:45:59 PM permalink
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Read that the doors are unlocked



I hope someone goes in and sits in it, so I can ask for some Grey Poupon when I walk by.
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June 29th, 2021 at 4:01:20 PM permalink
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I hope someone goes in and sits in it, so I can ask for some Grey Poupon when I walk by.


Funny. In case some do not get the reference. The commercials were a bit silly, but memorable.

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June 29th, 2021 at 4:02:35 PM permalink
Finally, onto the table game rules. I welcome correction on any of this.

Blackjack:
In the main casino the rules are BJ 6-5, six decks, dealer hits soft 17, double after split allowed, surrender allowed, re-split aces allowed. House edge = 1.84%. Lowest minimum was $15 and most tables have a $25 minimum. That is right -- no 3-2 blackjack on main casino floor.

In the high limit room the rules are BJ 3-2, six decks, dealer stands on soft 17, double after split allowed, surrender allowed, re-split aces allowed. House edge = 0.29%. I checked only one table, which had a $300 minimum.

Craps:
3-4-5x odds. Liberal field. 15/30 to one on hops. There is a mini-table in the high limit room.

Roulette:
Main casino floor has double-zero and triple-zero roulette.

The high limit room had double-zero and French (single zero, half back on even money bets if ball lands in 0) roulette.

Other

Otherwise, the table game variety was not strong. No tiles, I'm afraid. I forgot to write down the specifics, but I recall Free Bet Blackjack, Three Card Poker, and Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em.

High minimums are the order of the day there.
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June 30th, 2021 at 3:11:50 AM permalink
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No tiles, I'm afraid.

Damn!
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July 27th, 2021 at 11:47:05 AM permalink
Thanks for all the information, It looks like you saved me a trip. Only saw one VP game that I would play. 6=5 BJ no thanks.

I was looking to see how this cashless business is working out. As this is the test bed to prove the system reliability to gaming before it goes state wide.

Yes I know that it can't happen here but,,, NO cash, fewer people in the count room, no drop boxes to pull, people are more separated from from real money. I would imagine that the casino would have to have less cash on hand also.
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