Caesars to start charging resort fees
Quote: Gabes22The airlines that don't charge baggage fees like Southwest and Spirit, I am not sure the industry term, but I call it party seating, where there is no assigned seat and there is a free for all upon boarding the plane. When I fly, I prefer a window seat. If an airline could allow me that privilege without a baggage fee, that would earn my business, provided I could access them out of O'Hare and not go all the way down to Midway.
For an extra $10 you can get your Southwest boarding number right then. That pretty much guarantees you a very low Axx number, menaing you can get whatever seat you choose, anywhere in the plane.
Quote: boymimboFor SW, if I am feeling particularly cheap, I'll just make sure to get my boarding pass exactly 24 hours before the flight. That guarantees me a late A number or early "B" which is enough to get two seats together on the plane. If I know I'll be busy, I'll pay the $10 when I book to get a nice A30 - A40 selection which puts me everywhere but the exit row.
Yeah, the one time I flew SW, i just checked-in when the 24-hour window opened. Early "B" was just fine.
Quote: Fuengirola2How can any casino in Vegas endorse 6:5? Why does anyone play 6/5 BJ? We need another "Vegas"!
Casinos offer 6 to 5 because people play it. Why do people play it ? Because of the $5 and not the 6.
Besides both numbers are bigger than in 3/2 BJ !
Airlines will start charging for air any day now...
Quote: BuzzardCasinos offer 6 to 5 because people play it. Why do people play it ? Because of the $5 and not the 6.
Besides both numbers are bigger than in 3/2 BJ !
Regulators should have never let them even call it BJ with 6/5. They should have made them call it FJ since the FJ pays 6/5.
Quote: onenickelmiracleRegulators should have never let them even call it BJ with 6/5. They should have made them call it FJ since the FJ pays 6/5.
JULIET:
'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.
BJ FJ XJ It's still the $5 that attract them.
Quote: Gabes22The airlines that don't charge baggage fees like Southwest and Spirit, I am not sure the industry term, but I call it party seating, where there is no assigned seat and there is a free for all upon boarding the plane.
Spirit does charge baggage fees:
"Standard Fees - Online purchase
Domestic and International
Carry-On Bag (At booking / before check-in) $35.00
First Checked Bag (At booking / before check-in) $30.00
Second Checked Bag (At booking / before check-in) $40.00
Third, Fourth, Fifth Checked Bag (At booking / before check-in) $85.00
Carry-On Bag (During online check-in) $40.00
First Checked Bag (During online check-in) $35.00
Second Checked Bag (During online check-in) $45.00
Third, Fourth, Fifth Checked Bag (During online check-in) $90.00
All Customers - Reservation Center purchase
Domestic and International
Carry-On Bag $40.00
First Checked Bag $35.00
Second Checked Bag $45.00
Third, Fourth, Fifth Checked Bag $90.00
Group Booking - Group Desk purchase
Domestic and International
Carry-On Bag (More than 24 hours before flight departs) $35.00
First Checked Bag (More than 24 hours before flight departs) $30.00
Second Checked Bag (More than 24 hours before flight departs) $40.00
Third, Fourth, Fifth Checked Bag (More than 24 hours before flight departs) $85.00
Carry-On Bag (Within 24 hours of flight departure) $40.00
First Checked Bag (Within 24 hours of flight departure) $35.00
Second Checked Bag (Within 24 hours of flight departure) $45.00
Third, Fourth, Fifth Checked Bag (Within 24 hours of flight departure) $90.00
All Customers - Airport Counter/Kiosk purchase
Domestic and International
Carry-On Bag $50.00
First Checked Bag $45.00
Second Checked Bag $55.00
Third, Fourth, Fifth Checked Bag $100.00
All Customers - Airport Gate purchase
Domestic and International
Any bag purchased at Gate $100.00
Overweight Baggage
Domestic and International
41 – 50 lbs. (18 – 23 kg) $25.00 per bag
51 – 70 lbs. (23 - 32 kg) $50.00 per bag
71 – 99 lbs. (32 - 45 kg)) $100.00 per bag
Oversize Baggage
Domestic and International
More than 62 linear inches (158 cm) $100.00 per bag
More than 80 linear inches (203 cm) $150.00 per bag
Sporting Equipment
Domestic and International
Bicycles $75.00
Scuba Tank $75.00
Surf Board (Maximum of 2 surfboards in one bag) $100.00" spirit.com
Spirit also does have assigned seating:
Seat Fees
Spirit Assigned Seating at Check-In Free
Customer-Requested Seat Assignments / Deluxe Leather $1.00 to $50.00 per seat
Big Front Seats (In advance) $12.00 to $199.00 per seat
Big Front Seats (Onboard upgrades—depending on flight length) $25.00 to $75.00 per seat
Quote: rdw4potusSounds like you and your friends are trying to ask/bribe the service reps at the hotel front desk. You should know that this is not comparable to asking a casino host to waive a fee, which is what GH did.
No you're wrong! We didn't offer any money we just asked and the lady said it's a mandatory charge. So I don't know where you get we were trying to bribe the service rep.
Quote: GHThe $22 was a new fee, that showed up in the last month. And no, I don't pay anything for the Sky Suite either.
Strike three guy! I just called Aria: here is the number 866-359-7757.
You haven't stayed in the sky suites because the service rep I talked with told me the Sky Suites does not have a $22 fee for use of the Lounge. Her exact words
NOT NOW AND NOT EVER HAVE WE CHARGED A $22 FEE FOR USE OF THE LOUNGE.
Quote: Fuengirola2How can any casino in Vegas endorse 6:5? Why does anyone play 6/5 BJ?
Easy. At first, 6/5 was just for single-deck, and most people who play single deck think they can count cards well enough to still be able to beat it. Once that happened, people just considered 6/5 to be "the standard".
BUT...
No one else is offering Mr. and Mrs.
Low Roller (and proud of it) comp
nights at Flamingo for a week this
summer.
So, take the good with the bad ?
Well, having a "technically disclosed" but effectively hidden Resort Fee for all the wifi and stuff is annoying but I do think there should be a universal practice about it.
You either quote your room rates with or without that eleven percent tax too... or both, but you make it clear in advance.
Quote: FleaStiffOh, no... Its the entire Evil Empire. I thought from the headline it was just going to be Caesars... but they are all going to fully disclosed pricing quotations.
Well, having a "technically disclosed" but effectively hidden Resort Fee for all the wifi and stuff is annoying but I do think there should be a universal practice about it.
You either quote your room rates with or without that eleven percent tax too... or both, but you make it clear in advance.
Even the crappy Quad (Imperial Palace is charging $10 resort fee, they should be paying people $10 to stay there.
Quote: rdw4potusIn most places, a patron can be refunded for hotel fees if they can prove that they didn't use the service/item in question. Hotel "safe fees" are a good example. I'd imagine that's why delivery of the daily newspaper is included in the resort fee at casinos. If you can't prove that you didn't use that one item, you can't talk your way out of the fee at all.
Not Vegas,at least not at MGM hotels. At the beginning you could get the fee waived with a polite complaint but not anymore no matter how much you complain, as the service rep will tell you that it's a mandatory fee and it cannot be waived. If you don't want to pay a fee you will have to stay in the Aria Sky suites which doesn't carry a fee at all as GH said it did. In Caesers statement they said the resort fee will be a mandatory charge with no getting around it.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI just checked TR and didn't see the resort fee listed for checkout in AC Harrahs. I never completed the transaction putting in my CC #, but it did list fees and taxes of $12 a day(same as before).
The change only affects properties in Nevada that previously had $0 fees.
Quote: IsitingoodNo you're wrong! We didn't offer any money we just asked and the lady said it's a mandatory charge. So I don't know where you get we were trying to bribe the service rep.
If you didn't offer any money, how do you know if the the $20 trick will work or not? The whole point of the $20 trick is to get the desk staff to do things that they're "not allowed to do."
The Quad says for 10 bucks you get this,
1. internet access for one device. Thanks but I got mobile broadband and free hotspots are everywhere
2. fitness center access for two. Thanks but Walking between casinos covers my fitness needs
3.free local calls. Thanks but I have a cell phone like most Americans.
I'M so glad they value their customers so much that they are willing to provide this invaluable package of services that you cannot opt out of. what a joke.
Quote: rdw4potusThe change only affects properties in Nevada that previously had $0 fees.
Thanks. I thought so from the original blog post which was deleted, but the rest of the later statements I didn't think clarified it.
Quote: rainmanI wish they would just be straight forward and just say they are raising their rates.
The Quad says for 10 bucks you get this,
1. internet access for one device. Thanks but I got mobile broadband and free hotspots are everywhere
2. fitness center access for two. Thanks but Walking between casinos covers my fitness needs
3.free local calls. Thanks but I have a cell phone like most Americans.
I'M so glad they value their customers so much that they are willing to provide this invaluable package of services that you cannot opt out of. what a joke.
Plus the good news is when they offer 40% discounts and such, they never have to discount the fees since fees are not included. bwahahahaha. This will probably lead to one day having the resort fees higher than the the cost of a room at normal rates. bwaahahahaha.
Quote: rainman3.free local calls. Thanks but I have a cell phone like most Americans.
I do, too, but the roaming rates are murder (at any rate highway robbery). So if I need to make phone calls, I do use the hotel phone. Of course, the charges are far, far, far less than $10 per day.
Quote:I'M so glad they value their customers so much that they are willing to provide this invaluable package of services that you cannot opt out of. what a joke.
Given the name of the corporation, would it be out of line to raise or gather a couple of legions and start a civil war? That's the Roman way :P
You should picket resort fees. That would be funny.Quote: Nareed
Given the name of the corporation, would it be out of line to raise or gather a couple of legions and start a civil war? That's the Roman way :P
Quote: Nareed
Given the name of the corporation, would it be out of line to raise or gather a couple of legions and start a civil war? That's the Roman way :P
The Ides of March are but a fortnight away. Someone should warn Gary Loveman...:-)
Quote: rdw4potusThe Ides of March are but a fortnight away.
While that eventually led to civil war, it was actually murder. Murder most inept.
The American way would be to gather a legion or two of plaintiffs, hire a big name law firm or three, and file a class action lawsuit on some real or flimsy pretext. This would tie up Caesars and the plaintiffs in court for years, and consume moneys in amounts so vast they have to be called moneys rather than money.
The Romans were more civilized, yes? ;)
The average rate is gonna be around $30.00 a night with that stupid fee. If I am going to have to pay more I wont be doing it at the dump I mean quad. Maybe I will start staying downtown.
Quote: rainmanNareed summon your armies and meet me in las vegas, We shall lay siege to the IP/Quad/dump at dawn.
Granted The Dump has some strategic value, but it lacks any other value. It would be a terrible waste of an army to lay siege there, when there are richer objectives nearby like Paris, Caesars and even the Venetian/Palazzo. I say we pick among them, then we get armies together. The Wynncore would be a great target, as it lies unsupported by any neighbors to its north ;)
Quote:The average rate is gonna be around $30.00 a night with that stupid fee. If I am going to have to pay more I wont be doing it at the dump I mean quad. Maybe I will start staying downtown.
Agreed. Pre-tax rates Downtown are cheaper for the value offered, and with better gaming and dining options nearby. Even if the tax Downtown is higher.
Quote: rainmanMaybe I will start staying downtown.
That is going to be the net effect on me, and probably other people. What a way to shoot yourself in the foot.
Quote: NareedPre-tax rates Downtown are cheaper for the value offered, and with better gaming and dining options nearby. Even if the tax Downtown is higher.
Ah shit, I didn't know about this. So how much higher exactly are the taxes downtown? I assume they are city taxes since downtown is actually inside the Las Vegas city limits...
Quote: AcesAndEightsAh shit, I didn't know about this. So how much higher exactly are the taxes downtown? I assume they are city taxes since downtown is actually inside the Las Vegas city limits...
I'm certain the hotel tax on the Strip is 12% while in downtown it's 13%. I've heard the extra 1% is to finance the Fremont Steet Experience.
IMO an extra percentage point (NOT an extra 1%) is not out of line comapred to paying resort fees. Plus the 4 Queens, at least, has coffee makers in the rooms.
Quote: NareedI'm certain the hotel tax on the Strip is 12% while in downtown it's 13%. I've heard the extra 1% is to finance the Fremont Steet Experience.
IMO an extra percentage point (NOT an extra 1%) is not out of line comapred to paying resort fees. Plus the 4 Queens, at least, has coffee makers in the rooms.
Ah, that's not bad at all then.
Quote: Sabretom2Resort fees are waived for all TR Platinum and above. Much a do bout nothin.
I think this is only if your rooms are comped. But likely most Platinum+ will have room comps though.
Quote: rdw4potusThe change only affects properties in Nevada that previously had $0 fees.
Yeah, I just checked Harrahs/Harveys for my May Tahoe trip, and the new resort fee at both properties is $20.
You'd think that with all that competition from California's Indian casinos, Harrahs Tahoe wouldn't dream of adding a resort fee.
Not that anyone at Ceasars corporate office cares, but there are well over a thousand hotel rooms on the California side that are an easy 10 minute walk of the casinos. During ski season, these rooms are all booked up. But the rest of the year, most of these rooms are empty.
Looking at this map, I can assure you that no one is charging a $20 resort fee, except for Harrahs/Harveys. To put it in perspective, the resort fee at the Montbleu Casino (owned by Tropicana) next door to Harrahs is only three dollars!!
Quote: rdw4potusIf you didn't offer any money, how do you know if the the $20 trick will work or not? The whole point of the $20 trick is to get the desk staff to do things that they're "not allowed to do."
What the hell R U talking about? The $20 trick has nothing to do with waiving the resort fee! The $20 trick applies in trying to get an upgrade and it only works if if a supervisor isn't watching or at non peak times. It would be asinine to offer the $20 trick if the resort fee is $20
Quote: rdw4potusIf you didn't offer any money, how do you know if the the $20 trick will work or not? The whole point of the $20 trick is to get the desk staff to do things that they're "not allowed to do."
If rooms are available you don't need the $20 trick. It's easy to get a free upgrade without the trick in Dec and Jan.
