It looks like they are going to start pulling the $20 trick on us for a change.
Since I ain't paying any casino to stay where I gamble..... there may be no place for me to go.
Quote: RaleighCrapsLooks like the fact my bankroll is getting thin will not be a factor after all.
Since I ain't paying any casino to stay where I gamble..... there may be no place for me to go.
I wonder what method they'll use for this. In AC, Harrah's charges taxes and fees even on comped rooms. But in Vegas, Stations waives their resort fees on comped rooms. Here's hoping that Caesars in Nevada follows Station's lead instead of mimicking their own policies in NJ...
Quote: coilmanJust went on Total rewards and I have a offer for MAY free nights....punched in 5 nights in a row total cost $0 add the 6th night and its $132 not showing any resorts fees with my offers?
Apparently, if you book before 3/1, you won't have resort fees.
Quote: coilmanJust went on Total rewards and I have a offer for MAY free nights....punched in 5 nights in a row total cost $0 add the 6th night and its $132 not showing any resorts fees with my offers?
Read the article. The fees kick in on new reservations made after 3/1.
I welcome this. It gives me one more reason to get out of the Caesars rat trap.
Quote: DJTeddyBearRead the article. The fees kick in on new reservations made after 3/1.
I welcome this. It gives me one more reason to get out of the Caesars rat trap.
Guess I better book it before the end of this month ...a hundred bucks is half the airfare back to Calgary
If anyone knows where the next cheapest place to stay is please let me know.
Quote: rainmanMy only criteria for booking a stay is whats the cheapest room I can get. This means I always stayed at the IP/Quad/Dump. If they hit me for a resort fee I won't stay there. I'm going to have to look around for another dump that doesn't charge a re-fee.
If anyone knows where the next cheapest place to stay is please let me know.
The next cheapest place on the strip is still probably a CET property (Quad/Flamingo/Bally's) even with the fee...seriously...lol After 3/1, I would be trying to use the "$20 trick" to waive fees for a 4-7 night stay.
Quote: tringlomaneThe next cheapest place on the strip is still probably a CET property (Quad/Flamingo/Bally's) even with the fee...seriously...lol After 3/1, I would be trying to use the "$20 trick" to waive fees for a 4-7 night stay.
Dang! Quad isn't worth 30 a nite, maybe Wizard will let me camp in his yard and shuttle me to and from the strip... lol.
While checking out of a Las Vegas hotel, a couple receives a bill with charges they didn’t expect.
The husband says to the front desk clerk, “That’s ridiculous. We were quoted a much lower rate. I want to speak to a manager.” The desk clerk calls the manager over, and the couple pleads their case.
“I’m sorry,” says the manager. “The additional amount is resort fees. Our hotel has an Olympic-sized pool and a huge conference center available for guests to use.”
“We didn’t use them!” says the wife.
“Well, they’re here,” says the front desk manager, “And you could have.”
Before the couple can speak, the manager continues, “We also have a spa.”
“We didn’t go to the spa,” the couple protests.
“Well, we have one, and you could have,” the manager replies. “We also have Internet access. And an in-room safe.”
“We didn’t use those!” the husband states.
“We delivered a newspaper to your room,” says the manager.
“We didn’t use it!” the wife states.
“Well, you could have,” says the manager.
The husband, anxious to get on the road, says, “Fine. Nevermind. Honey, write the man a check.”
When the manager gets the check, he says to the couple, “Excuse me, but that check is for only $20.”
The woman replies, “Exactly. I charged you $500 for sleeping with me.”
The shocked manager says, “But I didn’t!”
“Well, too bad. I was here, and you could have,” the wife replies.
Quote: Gabes22Is it so much to ask that when I do business with a company that I can get all the stuff done in one transaction? Whether it be a hotel, an airline or whatever. I absolutely hate being nickel and dimed to death. If you are gonna charge $20 for a "resort fee" then just incorporate it into the cost of the room. Don't charge me to check my bag, incorporate it into the cost of the ticket
It's just an advertising gimmick. By breaking up the total charge, they can advertise a lower price (i.e. the "base" cost).
But I'd better book the 4 Queens soon, before they get any bright ideas.
They already charge $12 a beer at the pool and $12 a pack of smokes and where does the money even go.
Quote: Gabes22Is it so much to ask that when I do business with a company that I can get all the stuff done in one transaction? Whether it be a hotel, an airline or whatever. I absolutely hate being nickel and dimed to death. If you are gonna charge $20 for a "resort fee" then just incorporate it into the cost of the room. Don't charge me to check my bag, incorporate it into the cost of the ticket
Some smart businesses do. Tire stores may advertise "out the door price" but have to stress it. Often the proprietor who does this will find he has to compete on price less. Only thing you should not roll in is taxes, which is sometimes prohibited but a good idea to let people know how much government costs.
Just hilarious to try to say one big nickel and dime is better than multiple nickel and dimes. Plus the fee of $15 will actually be a nickel and dime. This blog seems to say it will only be in LVNV, but has anyone heard it to be elsewhere?
Quote: Gabes22The question is why would a typical visitor need any of those services? Most people nowadays have internet access on their cellphones, thus no need for internet access, and no need for local calls. Why would I read a local LV newspaper when I could read my hometown Chicago Tribune online on my mobile device? The printing of boarding passes I could see possibly being used, but I don't want to pay $15-$20 for the privilege.
Yeah, it is just pure bs charging a legal fee whether or not people want them and there is no other reason, but no way to opt out if you decide to stay there. If everyone went to their pool, the casino would not be very happy. Let alone it would be physically impossible to allow the entire hotel guests to be there at the same time.
So, this really won't affect too many people, since most people use CZR for comp'd nights anyway...
Quote: TIMSPEEDI'm sure this doesn't apply to comp'd rooms, as we just went to Vegas and stayed at Sunset Station, which charges a $16 resort fee...and we didn't pay it at all (comp'd nights)
So, this really won't affect too many people, since most people use CZR for comp'd nights anyway...
I would bet the casino is too smart and will eliminate pure comps for lots of people just to be able to snag them by offering a low rate of $1 or higher.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI would bet the casino is too smart and will eliminate pure comps for lots of people just to be able to snag them by offering a low rate of $1 or higher.
I dunno..with the change to the system..it's so easy to get diamond, it's stupid.
Quote: TIMSPEEDI dunno..with the change to the system..it's so easy to get diamond, it's stupid.
But diamond doesn't guarantee comp rooms? I thought only your ADT determines that.
Quote: keypunchforceable future.
Pun intended?
Quote: keypunchI just contacted Bally's and there is no resort fee charged now or in the forceable future. Could not connect through the above link. Although I did find a site thta stated a $15 per night fee at Bally's.
This article as I understood it was only to meant to apply to LV. Did you call them in LVNV or somewhere else?
Quote: YouCanBetOnThatThe blog post at Vegas.com has been deleted. Was it untrue? I can't find any other source reporting it.
First Maker's Mark saying it will water down it's bourbon to 80 proof only to rescind, now CET saying it will add resort fees only to rescind. Faux pas or publicity stunt?
2.21 Update, 12:06 p.m. PST: Caesars Entertainment officially confirms resort fees to begin March 1. Will range from $10 to $25 a night. This is the prepared statement from Gary Thompson:
Quote: CaesarsBased on the current industry standards in the market and evaluation of the services our guests choose and use, a comprehensive package of bundled services and amenities proves to be the best and most meaningful value to our guests. This is in response to the increasing demand from our guests to provide a package price instead of the inconvenience of separate fees. We continue to do all we can to provide our guests with the best value, best products and best experiences in Las Vegas.
I wonder if they have been losing business because Most of the rooms on Hotwire are priced deceptively low, but charge a resort fee.
I'm going next month, but thankfully I won't be charged the resort fee because the room is already booked.
A simple search of baggage fee income shows that the major airlines have made tens of millions of dollars off them and have not been hurt by Southwest not charging them. MGM is in the same boat and probably has not lost customers to CZR's just because of the fees.
When you are broke as Gary Loveman is, you need every dollar and I doubt they will lose any business over this.
In the end, the only person that gets screwed is the customer and the last place to care about them left Las Vegas in 1993.
Quote: BozIn the end, the only person that gets screwed is the customer and the last place to care about them left Las Vegas in 1993.
And that was? I wasn't legal to gamble in 1993.
As for CET, I don't gamble enough to get a comped room, so I am directly screwed by this. I'll likely premeptively book a summer trip before March 1st, and plan on $20 tricks to hopefully waive resort fees in the future.
Quote: tringlomaneAnd that was? I wasn't legal to gamble in 1993.
As for CET, I don't gamble enough to get a comped room, so I am directly screwed by this. I'll likely premeptively book a summer trip before March 1st, and plan on $20 tricks to hopefully waive resort fees in the future.
One thing I will bet on is that "$20 Tricks" will not remove these fees. Removing them will not be an option for desk clerks. Just like they have no options to provide suites, it will take a supervisor or host to remove these fees. But then again people think the $20 they slipped the desk clerk actually allowed them to steal something from the casino that they could not have gotten with a smile and a pleasant request.
Quote: BozOne thing I will bet on is that "$20 Tricks" will not remove these fees. Removing them will not be an option for desk clerks. Just like they have no options to provide suites, it will take a supervisor or host to remove these fees. But then again people think the $20 they slipped the desk clerk actually allowed them to steal something from the casino that they could not have gotten with a smile and a pleasant request.
I have read several times times that it worked for others at MGM/LVS properties, but who knows with CET. Unfortunately I am sorta stuck staying there for awhile due to Reward Credits on my card I need to eventually use. After I burn those off, will definitely consider the cheaper end of MGM properties.
You also didn't answer my question...what place left town in 1993 that cared about the customer?
Quote: Boz[..]it will take a supervisor or host to remove these fees.
I think it would take an Act of god. Signed, sealed and notarized.
Quote: JBFrom VegasChatter.com:
2.21 Update, 12:06 p.m. PST: Caesars Entertainment officially confirms resort fees to begin March 1. Will range from $10 to $25 a night. This is the prepared statement from Gary Thompson:Quote: CaesarsBased on the current industry standards in the market and evaluation of the services our guests choose and use, a comprehensive package of bundled services and amenities proves to be the best and most meaningful value to our guests. This is in response to the increasing demand from our guests to provide a package price instead of the inconvenience of separate fees. We continue to do all we can to provide our guests with the best value, best products and best experiences in Las Vegas.
What a joke of a statement. Of course, I suppose the stockholders wouldn't have been happy if he had said "we're up to our eyeballs in debt with no end in sight, so we need to squeeze every penny out of the customer we can to make ends meet. Never mind that only 10% of customers actually use any of these services and maybe half of that segment will save money on what they were already spending."
I'm still holding my breath on it becoming official...vegas.com article is still down...oh well, I already booked my May trip which is 100% comped. Hopefully they don't add the resort fees to comp'd rooms in the future, but if they do, I will likely stop staying there completely, assuming I can use this May trip to start generating free room offers from MSS/Boyd or someone else downtown.
Quote: tringlomaneI have read several times times that it worked for others at MGM/LVS properties, but who knows with CET. Unfortunately I am sorta stuck staying there for awhile due to Reward Credits on my card I need to eventually use. After I burn those off, will definitely consider the cheaper end of MGM properties.
You also didn't answer my question...what place left town in 1993 that cared about the customer?
I was thinking about when the mob lost control of the Stardust. They understood that the customer was King. Taking money off the top allowed them to do this.
Quote: AcesAndEightsQuote: JBFrom VegasChatter.com:
2.21 Update, 12:06 p.m. PST: Caesars Entertainment officially confirms resort fees to begin March 1. Will range from $10 to $25 a night. This is the prepared statement from Gary Thompson:
What a joke of a statement. Of course, I suppose the stockholders wouldn't have been happy if he had said "we're up to our eyeballs in debt with no end in sight, so we need to squeeze every penny out of the customer we can to make ends meet. Never mind that only 10% of customers actually use any of these services and maybe half of that segment will save money on what they were already spending."
I'm still holding my breath on it becoming official...vegas.com article is still down...oh well, I already booked my May trip which is 100% comped. Hopefully they don't add the resort fees to comp'd rooms in the future, but if they do, I will likely stop staying there completely, assuming I can use this May trip to start generating free room offers from MSS/Boyd or someone else downtown.
The Gold Spike already charges these fees and the others will follow if they think they can get away with it.
Quote: JBFrom VegasChatter.com:
2.21 Update, 12:06 p.m. PST: Caesars Entertainment officially confirms resort fees to begin March 1. Will range from $10 to $25 a night. This is the prepared statement from Gary Thompson:
Quote: Caesars
Based on the current industry standards in the market and evaluation of the services our guests choose and use, a comprehensive package of bundled services and amenities proves to be the best and most meaningful value to our guests. This is in response to the increasing demand from our guests to provide a package price instead of the inconvenience of separate fees. We continue to do all we can to provide our guests with the best value, best products and best experiences in Las Vegas.
Why do they even have to lie like this making up some bs story about how people demanded it?
I have never seen a facebook complaint anywhere for any casino asking for just one big nickel and dime fee.
If I were to be charged such a fee, I would gamble less on site, complain more demanding perfection, and gamble more off-site. If fees were waived for moderate gambling, I would feel better about it. If it has to be some perverted system to stop subsidizing the mooches who never gamble while staying in the casino hotels, I would be fine with it as long as I wasn't charged.
Quote: onenickelmiracleQuote: JBFrom VegasChatter.com:
2.21 Update, 12:06 p.m. PST: Caesars Entertainment officially confirms resort fees to begin March 1. Will range from $10 to $25 a night. This is the prepared statement from Gary Thompson:
Quote: Caesars
Based on the current industry standards in the market and evaluation of the services our guests choose and use, a comprehensive package of bundled services and amenities proves to be the best and most meaningful value to our guests. This is in response to the increasing demand from our guests to provide a package price instead of the inconvenience of separate fees. We continue to do all we can to provide our guests with the best value, best products and best experiences in Las Vegas.
Why do they even have to lie like this making up some bs story about how people demanded it?
I have never seen a facebook complaint anywhere for any casino asking for just one big nickel and dime fee.
If I were to be charged such a fee, I would gamble less on site, complain more demanding perfection, and gamble more off-site. If fees were waived for moderate gambling, I would feel better about it. If it has to be some perverted system to stop subsidizing the mooches who never gamble while staying in the casino hotels, I would be fine with it as long as I wasn't charged.
That is another issue. Why not require a minimum of play on a card to remove the fee? This could get the 40 plus percent of people who visit LV and never gamble to play. Make those who stand in line for an hour to buy a voucher to stand in another line for what they think is half off a show to justify the low Vegas hotel rates they pay.
And yes, I don't like the so called tourists who pay $39 a night for a room, don't gamble a penny and then bitch about their room at The Quad or Flamingo on review sites.