FleaStiff
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June 17th, 2011 at 1:31:32 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

they had one roulette table with felt that hadn't been changed since they opened. It had gouges in it, cig burns and beer stains. And the table had no marquee and nothing to write results on.


Its the wheel that makes the money, not the felt.
A roulette annunciator is for entertainment purposes, it draws in passing rubes.

>I left.
Those oxygen-tank toting players stayed.

Note: Management salaries and management bonuses never seem to take a hit. Dealer salaries do. Its the new economics perhaps.
EvenBob
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June 17th, 2011 at 2:01:08 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Its the wheel that makes the money, not the felt.
A roulette annunciator is for entertainment purposes, it draws in passing rubes.



The filthy felt means they aren't professional. And I'm one of the 'rubes' who uses the marquee to keep track.
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FleaStiff
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June 17th, 2011 at 3:14:28 AM permalink
>The filthy felt means they aren't professional.
Their bankers consider them to be very professional.

> And I'm one of the 'rubes' who uses the marquee to keep track.
You do? Is this on the theory that the little white ball likes to follow trends or that the little white ball likes to end trends and start new ones just after I've made my bets?
EvenBob
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June 17th, 2011 at 5:47:59 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff



> And I'm one of the 'rubes' who uses the marquee to keep track.>

You do? Is this on the theory that the little white ball likes to follow trends or that the little white ball likes to end trends and start new ones just after I've made my bets?



The little white ball ball does what it likes, I'm just along for the ride. In private, I refer to the little white ball as 'my bitch'. In public I refer to it as 'I'd like to cash in my chips now, please.'

Nuff said..
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pacomartin
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June 17th, 2011 at 6:26:42 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

>The filthy felt means they aren't professional. Their bankers consider them to be very professional.



Arizona Charlie's Decatur

I still find it pretty remarkable that this place makes that much money. It seems to offer so very little in the way of amenities.
FleaStiff
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June 17th, 2011 at 7:39:18 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

I still find it pretty remarkable that this place makes that much money. It seems to offer so very little in the way of amenities.


There is a reason the various locals casino owners banded together to drive Dotty and her LookALikes out of business. It has nothing at all to do with the machines being on top of a bar or in stand-alone clusters. It has to do with money.

The various Dotty casinos (and the later emerging Dotty Lookalikes) probably provided the least in the way of amenities. For reasons not yet precisely delineated, but probably due mainly to location, Arizona Charlies (Decatur) is a highly profitable casino despite providing not all that much more than a Dotty's place. Its a plain vanilla Slot Parlor and Bingo Hall with the trappings of a casino, since it also provides other amenities. Its clear that their craps and blackjack tables are there primarily to keep the license active.

A bit up the scale on the amenities scene is a few geographically nearby places that are Locals Casinos but have even more in amenities such as movie theaters, nightclubs, gaming promotions, better food service, better rooms, etc. Yet the nearby locals casinos seem to make less than Arizona Charlies-Decatur according to various commonly employed metrics. Arizona Charlies does Plain Vanilla very well. The nearby places seem to have added Cherry Vanilla as well as Plain Vanilla, but it doesn't seem to be worth all the investment that was made.
FleaStiff
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August 6th, 2011 at 3:17:24 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

What is surprising is that the gaming revenue here is higher than at Hard Rock Casino. No kidding!

Shoemaker. Stick to your last.
Is it really surprising the gaming revenue is higher than at the Hard Rock?
When I simply hear the casino name "hard rock"... I get a headache from the anticipated noise of a rock concert or heavy metal band.

Arizona Charlie's provides slots and the basic table games pit. It focuses on a casino. Everything else is bare minimalist Plain Vanilla but it seems to work very well. Its a Dottys on Steroids with all the proper licenses. Its simply the focus is relentlessly on the casino experience rather than a nightlife experience that simply features a stint in the casino.
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August 5th, 2016 at 3:18:56 PM permalink
Great place to play craps if you like empty tables....which I do...the rooms are old but very clean. I stumbled on this place because I was recently there and went to 7 casinos and couldn't get a room even at my home casino with a diamond card and a awesome host! So at 4 in the morning i found myself at Az Charlies wondering what the heck did i get myself into and making sure my bankroll was shoved down extra far!!! LOL... but I was pleasantly surprised.
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Joeshlabotnik
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August 5th, 2016 at 4:28:35 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Okay. So what gives AzCharlies their loyal following? I'd opt for a brew pub and cute girls. Might even opt for a movie theater and a bit more variety in the menu. So what is it? Accessibility, outreach, parking?
Select the locals casinos "only two miles in any direction" and find out: are the odds any different? Are the slot machines any looser? Is the parking lot significantly less inviting?



Here's what makes AC Decatur attractive to its core clientele:

1. Very easy access--just off the freeway, and away from I-15, and lots of parking.
2. It's right in the middle of a residential area, which includes a 300-unit senior apartment complex less than 50 yards away.
3. A quite good basic coffee shop with long-running breakfast specials such as steak and eggs for $5.
4. A serviceable buffet (much better than it used to be).
5. 24-hour bingo.
6. Slots and VP are the same loose variety found in other locals' casinos.
7. Low limits on everything.

Also, it's not a flashy, noisy Strip casino. The dealers and slot floorpersons know their customers and greet them by name. In short, locals--especially retirees--get what they want there. IMHO, the decision to locate the casino where it is and cater to its core demographic was an act of genius.
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August 5th, 2016 at 5:32:20 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Here's what makes AC Decatur attractive to its core clientele:

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6. Slots and VP are the same loose variety found in other locals' casinos.




A couple years ago I checked for meter rise on a 7-5 Bonus Poker progressive at AC-D, for quarters. I clocked it at the snail's pace of .15%. Naturally, the jackpot was about $1020. Why even offer it as a progressive if you're going to drag it in at a pace like that? That's stupid.
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