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Where did he go to HS? I may have knew him.
Can't be too hard to find out, he graduated about 12 years ago and his old man is loaded. Look at the High Schools in the best neighborhoods."It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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Can't be too hard to find out, he graduated about 12 years ago and his old man is loaded. Look at the High Schools in the best neighborhoods.
Since you know people who went to school with him you might just cut to the chase and tell me where.
I will give him credit. If he graduated HS 12 years ago he was only 15.I have a bewitched egg that I use to play VP with and I have net over 900k with it.
Quote: Wavy70Quote: EvenBobQuote: Wavy70
Since you know people who went to school with him you might just cut to the chase and tell me where.
I will give him credit. If he graduated HS 12 years ago he was only 15.
Actually nobody knows his exact age, he never gives it. I just read more reports of his arrest and one of them said he's 27, which means they got his age from the police report. So he graduated about 10 years ago. He married his HS sweetheart."It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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And having an exotic doesn't necessarily make you a douche, but it sure raises some red flags. Takes it to the track? Man's man. Only drives it to places where he'll be 'seen'? D-bag. Throws on an illegal exhaust and carbon brakes? Man. "Exhaust? Will it affect my vanity plates?" Bag. Close ratio tranny with racing clutch? Man. "Clutch? But mine's an automatic!" Lord of all Bags. Just my opinion and who cares anyways. It's a free country and anyone may do as they please. If I had the money I'd buy whatever I wanted and to hell with anyone who didn't like. So if you ever see a mud splattered DB9 towing a fishing rig or with a deer strapped to the roof, know that the Face finally hit the jackpot.
What a funny post, I laughed out loud because its so true. I have no interest in any vehicle except an Escalade or a Navigator. Easy to get in and out of, every luxury known to man. There are two customers at my local grocery who own Hummer's. WTF is it with owning one of these things? What are you trying to prove? Arnold Schwartzenegger looks small getting out of one, whats the point.
Quote: FaceThrows on an illegal exhaust and carbon brakes? Man. "Exhaust? Will it affect my vanity plates?" Bag. Close ratio tranny with racing clutch? Man. "Clutch? But mine's an automatic!" Lord of all Bags.
They don't call it "Manual" for no reason.
But seriously speaking, modifying an exotic is a great way to ruin a perfectly good car. Unlike ponys and rice burners, originally high-performance cars are expensive to improve, turning a merely expensive one into ridiculously costly, and changes are more often tradeoffs rather than genuine improvements. Someone trying to do these things to a 458 is more likely an idiot with rich parents than a man.
Also, farty exhausts are the single most db modification one can possibly make to his vehicle, well ahead of fake badges and three-foot spoilers. Even in those astronomically rare cases where it's done for anything other than attracting attention, they have much less effect on performance (compared to a quiet but low-restriction exhaust) than dozens of other components.
Food Network seems to have its share of casting issues and somewhat faked reality on some of their shows. A couple of cases in point:
The Next Food Network Star (Season 3)
A contestant named Joshua "JAG" Garcia misrepresented himself. Here is a quote from Wikipedia that explains: After the final elimination episode was aired, evidence came to light that JAG had lied about both his culinary training and his military service, representing both as more extensive than they actually were. Food Network allowed him to withdraw from the competition and reinstated Amy Finley, who was voted The Next Food Network Star.
The runner up in that season was Rory Schepisi, who had been a runner up on another reality show called Popularity Contest. Even though she lost on "Popularity", she ended up moving to the location that show was shot, and opened a restaurant. Her apparent need for more popularity, mixed with her apparent cooking ability, was good enough to get her on Food Network... apparently.
Worst Cooks in America (Season 2)
So-called terrible cook Erika Rumsey was a contestant on Beauty and the Geek in 2005. I'm thinking that cooking ability had little to do with picking her as a contestant. Sidenote: Couldn't a really great cook fake their way onto the show, and obliterate the competition?
Chef Robert Irvine (of Dinner: Impossible and Restaurant: Impossible), who was one of the two team leaders in the competition, also has some "misrepresentation" issues. He claimed to cook for 3 U.S. Presidents and the British Royal family, which were not entirely true. He also had investors put money into a new restaurant based on these claims, but the restaurant never opened. He is still gainfully employed by Food Network, despite all this.
Chopped All-Stars
All-Star chefs competing for charity seems like a win-win situation. However, one group of 4 chefs were plucked from previous seasons of Next Food Network Star. These were the losing contestants. If you never saw those shows, you wouldn't know who they are. Not a grave mistake or anything from Food Network, but could be considered a blunder of sorts.
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btw, Corey's been in a bit of trouble lately throwing his weight around at the wrong people.
Not a surprise, people who knew him in HS say he was big fat bully. He thinks he's a tatoo'd Harley riding badass, and now with his head swollen from the show, god knows where he'll end up. His dad is always lamenting he has to leave the store to him some day. Bad idea, Big Hoss has no work ethic, and almost no brains. Chumlee is actually smarter than he is.
He kind of comes off as a bully in the show as far as I am concerned. That and the owner's kid who does no real work and can't spell "pawn" if you spotted him the "paw." Rick comes off as a friendly but savvy businessman. The old man as the guy who is too cynical to mess around anymore and even pretend to negotiate. Any intelligent person knows Chumlee can't be that stupid. But I would bet he is the "pick on" guy in the shop.
I do tell people I know about how fake the merchandise is because the shop is way too nice for a pawn shop. Any pawn shop I have been in has merchandise that is 90% of the following: jewlry, musical insturments mostly guitars, guns, beat-up consumer electronics, old dvd/vhs movies, and various power tools. But it is a fun show to watch. Rick does seem to know a lot about history. Maybe it is time for TV to adopt a "semi-reality" term or something else for all these "at work" shows.
It is better than watching the latest network dribble about a bunch of 20somethings living in apartments and jobs that are far beyond what they would be expected to have.
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Actually nobody knows his exact age, he never gives it. I just read more reports of his arrest and one of them said he's 27, which means they got his age from the police report. So he graduated about 10 years ago. He married his HS sweetheart.
Just checking. It sounded like you had more info than I could find online.I have a bewitched egg that I use to play VP with and I have net over 900k with it.
Quote: teddysThe best 'reality show' I've seen about pawshops was a documentary on TV Ontario a year or so back that showed the day-to-day operations of an inner-city pawshop in Edmonton. It was real, and more compelling than any of this reality-show sh*t. I've been trying to find it forever. It was called "Broke," or something like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ3--NB1QTc
Looks like what you are talking about.
Quote: P90But seriously speaking, modifying an exotic is a great way to ruin a perfectly good car.
Also, farty exhausts are the single most db modification one can possibly make to his vehicle, well ahead of fake badges and three-foot spoilers. Even in those astronomically rare cases where it's done for anything other than attracting attention, they have much less effect on performance (compared to a quiet but low-restriction exhaust) than dozens of other components.
Quite possibly true. When it comes to Zonda's and Bugatti's and such I obviously have no hands on experience. And since they're basically street legal race cars, I dont imagine there'd be much to do. But if I had a lower end exotic / supercar, I'd definately mod it somehow. Americans (Vette / Viper) are prime candidates for exhaust mods, body lightening, and brake enhancements. Any true exotic I'd probably just pull out the passenger seat, power windows, AC, etc and have the tuning re-mapped.
But the exhaust is a must have for performance driving. Regardless of performance, the engine needs to be heard to enhance driver awareness. The ambient sound at 100mph drowns out typical OEM exhaust, and often sound is the first clue that advises of wheel slippage under power. If exotics are already loud enough for this to be a non-issue, then I'd agree, there's no need to touch 'em. Putting one on purely to make other's ears bleed is douchebaggery. Hope no one here has a Harley ;)
Quote: EvenBobThere are two customers at my local grocery who own Hummer's. WTF is it with owning one of these things? What are you trying to prove?
The true Hummer (H1) is awesome for off roading or uprooting entire buildings. Those H2 and H3 soccer-mom mobiles are an abomination. I don't condone the actions of the tree-huggers who spray painted a whole lot of them, but I was smiling on the inside. I did see one guy in a H2 go to the local mud bog with one, though. All shiny silver chrome, super lux tricked out and he beat the piss out of it. Bent the step-ups, tore the bumper clean off, jumped it and bent the front susp. and shattered the windshield. Not a drop of d-bag in him =) But yeah, if you're not a hard core off-roader, or actively engaged in warfare, then put it away.
As for the reality shows, common sense says it's a sham. Cops I believe to be mostly genuine, and what do you see? Poor lighting, scars, acne, bystanders looking confused, minors with pixelated faces. Even on-scene news reports, watch how the people in the background act, then compare it to reality TV. Of all the shows mentioned in this thread, does one of them have any similarities to tv that you know is true and real (like the news)? Everything's just too perfect. I'm sure some if not many of us here have interesting lives, but could you imagine how boring of a show we'd make, if not for creative assistance? I don't buy it. I'll still watch it (esp Op Repo and HC Pawn, I can't help it) but 'real'? C'mon....
Quote: EvenBobThey might have done that in the very beginning, but not anymore. You could literally wait weeks for something interesting to come in. They get calls and emaisl from hundreds of viewers now who have great stuff to sell and they can pick and choose what to put on the show. I suspect a lot of it comes from SoCal, but I read about something that came all the way from Australia. If they didn't do it that way, they would have lines of people with their junk there every day just to get on the show. They have greatly expanded the building, don't know if its open yet. They have pissed off lots of fans because on filming days you can't get in the store and security can be really rude about it. If you watch the show on a regular basis, when they show B-roll (stuff that was filmed as filler) the shop is packed with customers. Yet when they are shooting a sale, theres maybe 10 customers in the whole store. And they're never fat guys in shorts, they're always hip looking people who look like they have money. I wonder if the 100K a year includes what History Channel pays them? Rick and the old man make far more than 100K a year running the store. Reality make a fraction of what network stars make. I would think they make somewhere in the 5K per episode category. They depend on the free publicity for their business for the majority of their income. A few years ago Sr, on American Chopper, was grossing over a million a year just from selling OCC collectibles on the internet. He had 7 employees just doing that 6 days a week.
I stopped by the G&S Pawn shop late on a Saturday afternoon last month, and had to wait a few minutes in a queue to even get in. Of course the four guys weren't there, (apparently they are only there on some weekdays) The only staffer I recognized was the security guard.
The store is rather small, and the cases where the interiors are filmed (the one with the old swords that Rick and the Old Man usually stand behind) are filled with odds and ends. The cases on the opposite side of the store (behind where the customers stand when they are talking to Rick) are filled with watches and jewlery. The back half of the store is filled with souvenir stuff from the show, mugs, bobbleheads, T-shirts, key chains, etc. According to girls working the registers, the store makes more money selling this stuff than the pawn business.
What struck me was that I brought in an old book and was told, "We don't buy books" The very next week, the episode I saw was centered on authenticating an old book that supposedly had Issac Newton's handwriting in it. FAKE... FAKE... FAKE...
There were some items I recognized from the show on display, and for sale. There was a pinball machine that was labeled "featured in an upcoming episode". I wonder how hard it is for them to bargain when reselling stuff they purchased on the show since everyone knows how much they paid for it?
The stretch of L.V. Blvd. that the shop is on is pretty rough. There is another pawn shop across the street that conveniently gets left out of all the exterior shots, just like the Adult Video shop right behind it. I would not recommend going there after sundown.
Quote: DweenBack to the subject of "Reality TV"...
Food Network seems to have its share of casting issues and somewhat faked reality on some of their shows..
The head chef at one of the casinos I go to was on a Food Network reality show and he can't give details, but said don't believe everything you see. He did say he knows for a fact that on Iron Chef America, the competing chefs know weeks in advance what the so called 'secret' ingredient is going to be. They have weeks to prepare recipes and get the right crew together. But FN is trying to make us believe they find out what the secret ingredient is at the same time we do. Bobby Flay doesn't even bother trying to look surprised anymore.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DweenBack to the subject of "Reality TV"...
Food Network seems to have its share of casting issues and somewhat faked reality on some of their shows..
The head chef at one of the casinos I go to was on a Food Network reality show and he can't give details, but said don't believe everything you see. He did say he knows for a fact that on Iron Chef America, the competing chefs know weeks in advance what the so called 'secret' ingredient is going to be. They have weeks to prepare recipes and get the right crew together. But FN is trying to make us believe they find out what the secret ingredient is at the same time we do. Bobby Flay doesn't even bother trying to look surprised anymore.
a co-worker spoke to a chef who was a contestant on Iron Chef. They actually are given three "secret" ingredients, and asked for a list of what other things they would need to prepare dishes based on all three. The reveal is real, but only in that they did know which of the three they would have to work with.
Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: EvenBobQuote: DweenBack to the subject of "Reality TV"...
Food Network seems to have its share of casting issues and somewhat faked reality on some of their shows..
The head chef at one of the casinos I go to was on a Food Network reality show and he can't give details, but said don't believe everything you see. He did say he knows for a fact that on Iron Chef America, the competing chefs know weeks in advance what the so called 'secret' ingredient is going to be. They have weeks to prepare recipes and get the right crew together. But FN is trying to make us believe they find out what the secret ingredient is at the same time we do. Bobby Flay doesn't even bother trying to look surprised anymore.
They actually are given three "secret" ingredients, and asked for a list of what other things they would need to prepare dishes based on all three. .
It works out the same. They have weeks to figure out recipes and pick just the right people to work with. The secret to good reality TV is to leave as little to chance as possible.
Quote: FaceQuite possibly true. When it comes to Zonda's and Bugatti's and such I obviously have no hands on experience. And since they're basically street legal race cars, I dont imagine there'd be much to do. But if I had a lower end exotic / supercar, I'd definately mod it somehow.
Veyron, a street race car? In no way. With its 4,500 lbs, Veyron is right up there with Hummer, firmly placing it into native road car category. It's a grand tourer or an "Euromuscle", not a sports car.
Most supercars aren't good on the track, they're too heavy, and even if they manage to work well outright, they shred their tires quickly, upon which electronic magic stops compensating. Generally anything over 3,000 lbs is very questionable for track use.
There are overall two major classes of supercars, "heavies" that are more properly grand tourers or semi-GT than sports cars, and lightweight ones actually designed for at least occasional track use. The first category is represented by Lambos, front-engined Ferraris, just anything front-engined, but most iconically Astons, the ultimate embodiment of GT philosophy - heavy, comfortable, great looking in and out. The second category is led by McLaren F1 and Ferrari Enzo, and has cars such as Zonda, Scuderia series or the new 458, light and agile, with naked weld seams instead of cushy power seats. They have almost nothing in common other than badges, prices, high top speed, and being called supercars.
Though GT2 can be said to kind of bridge these classes, but Porsche always goes their own way. While other makers make the light/heavy split and base their competition cars on the light platform, they decided to keep their light platform (Cayman) strictly to the low range and use the relatively heavy one (which isn't as heavy as most others, so the end car is just a notch over 3,000) for motorsport. FWIW I don't generally consider them to be exotics or supercars yet; proper exotics start a bit above, with companies that don't taint their range with Touaregs and maintain at least a semblance of handiwork rather than pure mass production.
Quote: FaceBut the exhaust is a must have for performance driving. Regardless of performance, the engine needs to be heard to enhance driver awareness. The ambient sound at 100mph drowns out typical OEM exhaust, and often sound is the first clue that advises of wheel slippage under power.
In a tuned-up Crown Victoria, that is a factor. But most cars even considered a base for serious modification (such as WRX) are loud enough already to not require additional fart. Hatchbacks, Celica and MR2, etc can make use of this, but cars that start out as rally or muscle cars don't. Stealthy performance is always cooler than loud self-advertising.
Quote: P90Veyron, a street race car? In no way.
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I have seen the show and by your post they seem to have found the "niche" they wanted.
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I admit I'd never watched TRUtv before yesterday and that marathon of HC Pawn, and tonight they're running a marathon of Operation Repo. I'd never heard of it. Hilarious. Entertaining. Of course it's just a silly show, but I'm hooked.
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I admit I'd never watched TRUtv before yesterday and that marathon of HC Pawn, and tonight they're running a marathon of Operation Repo. I'd never heard of it. Hilarious. Entertaining. Of course it's just a silly show, but I'm hooked.
You'll notice at the start theres a blurb that says these are re-inactments of 'real' events, or some such. All the players are actors, mostly really fat BAD actors.
Quote: EvenBobGo and watch, you live in Vegas. Most of the stuff they get comes from all over the country. People write the producers and say they have a certain item and they'll be in Vegas at a certain date, and the producers tell them to come in if they think the item will make good TV. Its all set up, the experts they use as appraisers are told when to come in, and they sometimes have to shoot scenes half a dozen times because people mess up, get tongue tied, or forget what they wanted to say. They realized early on how popular Chumlee was, so now they've got him dumbed down to village idiot status. He still gets 3 times more fan mail than anybody else on the show. Notice how calm and cool and collected the sellers always are, like they're used to being a national TV show. Thats not an accident. Did you see the show with Bob Dylan? Chumlee wandered around the Strip looking for Dylan because Rick told him he was in town. And voila, he finds him. Yeah, right. I watch it because the people are likable and they have some cool stuff that comes in. You should see the house Rick lives in, its a dang mansion. The old man's house I've never seen, I'll bet its as big as Ricks.
I don't deny that they have special shooting days, and the appraisers are probably right there waiting. I also agree the Bob Dylan scene was contrived. However, what I am waiting for some evidence on is this statement:
Quote: EvenBobThey coach people on what to say and how to act. And they'll film a scene over and over, and go back and re-shoot a scene days later.
Let's see the evidence or admit you don't have it.
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Let's see the evidence or admit you don't have it.
Its from reading the posts of people who've been on the show. I'm not understanding what the big deal is. If they told people to just say whatever they liked, all they'd get is a bunch of stuff they can't use. You'd get a nervous, jumbled mess of their life story, and a confusing story about the item they're selling, with tons of 'uh' and 'I mean' and 'like, ya know'. Ever notice that every buying scene in the shop is quite a bit like the last one? The sellers are 'guided' into saying what is best to make the show run coherently. The sellers are rank amateurs, yet they never seem nervous when on camera. The don't stutter and stammer and stumble over their words like they should be doing in such a foreign, nerve racking environment. Thats because its been rehearsed, they know what they're going to say, and they get several chances to do it till they get it right. It ends up being smooth and seamless and professional, nothing wrong with that. Chumlee cracks a couple of well timed jokes, the old man tells him to shut the BLEEP up, and everybody is happy.
I was a contestant on Wheel of Fortune in 2008... not quite Reality TV, but there were a few interesting things I noticed.
Coaching contestants
- Contestants are told not to clap up near their chests; That's where the microphone is. It makes the sound guys' jobs harder.
- Spin the wheel hard, give it a good follow through.
- Even though you are mic'd, yell your letters out like you need Vanna to hear them clearly. Don't fluff, ie. "I'd like a T, please."
- Naturally, they tell you to be excited. They don't say, "Don't forget to jump up and down and hug the host!" Some people just end up doing that on their own.
The only "faked" stuff that I noticed on the aired shows I taped at was what is called "Sweetening", where they add a little canned laughter or applause.
During the short player interviews, one contestant was almost done, when she froze, turned and almost started walking away. Luckily, Pat was right next to her, consoled her, and said, "Oh, don't worry about it. I once came out and said Welcome to the Price is Right." The other contestants and I in the audience were almost frozen in horror for this poor girl. They did not stop tape, they did not edit. The only thing they did was added a little laughter to Pat's joke, making it seem like everybody was cool with it. As it turned out, she was the big winner, so she got over it.
The audience has a bit of coaching as well, with a couple of "cheerleaders" that hold up signs for applause and quiet. They keep their energy up, tell them to keep clapping, etc. When I spun the bonus round wheel, I clapped a little bit, then stopped when I noticed the audience was silent. Lo and behold, in my aired episode, the audience applauded during my spin. It's added in post.
After winning the bonus round, I was told to face a camera with my wife, and say a few lines. They had me do it twice, and they kept the audience clapping the whole time. They ended up not using the lines, but did get my impromptu "I love you" to my wife as I kissed her.
Let's not get into the argument of "The game is rigged!" No game shows are rigged. By law. The closest thing to rigging in the recent past is a show that never aired, "Our Little Genius." Turns out that Mark Burnett of Survivor and Apprentice fame wanted to do a game show. His production staff took cues from how they did their reality shows, and gave too much information to contestants. From wikipedia:
Quote: WikipediaThe Federal Communications Commission has opened an inquiry into the show. According to The New York Times, a member of the production team gave a prospective contestant and his parents specific answers to at least four questions. If the show were found to be deliberately rigged, it would mark the first known instance of such a deception in America since the quiz show scandals of the late 1950s. Rigging a game show is a felony under the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. § 509), which was added to the law in 1960 in the wake of the scandals.
Quote: EvenBobYou'll notice at the start theres a blurb that says these are re-inactments of 'real' events, or some such. All the players are actors, mostly really fat BAD actors.
That was one of the reasons I stopped watching it. But it was obvious anyways. Who goes to repo cars with two cameras and several mics, sets all that up, THEN goes to repo the car? I interviewed a repo guy for a job once and he told me a good repo guy will avoid going on someone's property to get the car at all costs. Wait until they go to work, Wal-Mart, or whatever. And if you watch that show you will notice they go out of their way to antagonize the borrower in most cases.
Once I saw a repo-doccumentary show and the differences were staggering. On the more "real" one there were still two people (you need two to drive the car if you must) but they were quiet, fast, and professional. If they hooked a car it took 60 seconds max. Camera work was one-camera and looked more like "Cops" does.
But the best was when they followed two girls waiting for them to park the car. They took it when they got gasoline. After they paid.
Can you inagine getting your car repo-ed AFTER you just paid to fill the tank, then having to walk?
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a co-worker spoke to a chef who was a contestant on Iron Chef. They actually are given three "secret" ingredients, and asked for a list of what other things they would need to prepare dishes based on all three. The reveal is real, but only in that they did know which of the three they would have to work with.
Not a secret, answers.com entry for "Iron Chef" mentions this, or at least it used to. The reveal is shot several times to get the right angles and such.
What I wonder is how real "The Next Food Network Star" is? I love that one but was POed at last year as they appeared to want Artie from very early on and eliminated the strongest competitors week by week if they had an off day. But that looks more real than ICA where even if you didn't know you know they can't make 5 dishes with 2 sous chefs in an hour. The early rounds are fairly simple so I can buy they are real, but later ones it is a lot to believe they get done so fast.
For that matter, does anyone know how real "Chopped" is? Judging is clearly heavily edited, but do they really only have 20-30 mins?
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What I wonder is how real "The Next Food Network Star" is? I love that one but was POed at last year as they appeared to want Artie from very early on and eliminated the strongest competitors week by week if they had an off day.
None of that show is real and it's as transparent as wrestling is. They make it look like a competition but the pick is made right from the start based on programming directives. When that talentless Big Daddy got it they needed a soul food segment. This year they wanted Indian food so they got Artie, who really only knows how to put curry on hot dogs or in soups. It's the Food Network's method of appeasing minorities while the majority of the big stars are whites. I just wish they wouldn't make it so obvious.
Quote: RobSingerNone of that show is real and it's as transparent as wrestling is. They make it look like a competition but the pick is made right from the start based on programming directives. When that talentless Big Daddy got it they needed a soul food segment. This year they wanted Indian food so they got Artie, who really only knows how to put curry on hot dogs or in soups. It's the Food Network's method of appeasing minorities while the majority of the big stars are whites. I just wish they wouldn't make it so obvious.
You mean Roddy Piper didn't really break a coconut over Jimmy Snuka's head?
Seriously, I did think that on Big Daddy somewhat (started watching late that year) and Artie the fix was in. When Melissa won 2 years ago it seemed a little real as she did seem to develop as they coached her. Now, she could have been acting that, but if she did she did it well. One other thing is they seem to always let 1-2 jagoff guys and 1 flakey gal make the finalists to be removed early. Maybe they are there as cannon fodder while the selection committee decides who they might really want?
Quote: AZDuffmanYou mean Roddy Piper didn't really break a coconut over Jimmy Snuka's head?
LOL! That is pure gold.
Quote: WizardLet's see the evidence or admit you don't have it.
I am reminded of a line in the 1935 version of Mutiny on the Bounty. The ships surgeon say in reply to Capt Bligh's doubt of his story of a brandy bottle finding it's way back to Portugal on it's own.
"I do not detest fact's I am indifferent to them."
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The only thing I heard the film crew say was... "just talk good about the car, try to sell it". This tells me there is NO script.
However, the show could still be a combination of "live", (coached, but not exactly scripted) interactions (that still may or may not be reshot), and "narrative commentary" inserts that are definitely shot later (Rick sitting in the storage room with the guitars in the background, or the old man standing outside by his truck).
See the full discussion board post here
There is no written 'script' on any of these shows, but its still scripted. Whenever the producer gives hints or directions to the participants, thats called scripted. Scripting doesn't have to be written down, it can be completely verbal. The producer usually works from a written outline of how they want a show to go and he constantly moves the participants in that direction. The typically ask lots of questions and say leading things, like 'just talk good about the car' and such. They have to do this, if they didn't the show would be a mish mash of nonsense and it would take 3 times longer to shoot anything. Every reality show has a predetermined direction for every episode. Look at Pawn Stars now and go back and look at the first episodes. Rick and the crew have learned how it works and whats expected of them and what makes good TV. Its the customers that need all the direction.
Here is the dictionary definition of scripted that applies to reality shows: "To orchestrate (a behavior or an event) as if writing a script". The producers orchestrate the events and the speech and behaviors of the people on these shows.
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For that matter, does anyone know how real "Chopped" is? Judging is clearly heavily edited, but do they really only have 20-30 mins?
I've seen every ep of Chopped since it came on the air. The times are legit, its a big part of the show. They really don't have any clue what the ingredients will be. Yes its heavily edited, they just keep whats considered good TV. I cook a lot and I learn a lot from these shows. I love Dirty Jobs because Mike Rowe is so likable, and he actually shows you how these shows are made, his crew is a big part of the show. He can move the show in the direction he wants by the questions he asks. He's one of the highest paid reality stars and he's worth every dime of it.
Quote: EvenBobMy favorite new show is 'Sons of Guns'.
Oh Hell Yeah! Not since Nitro Circus aired have I said "I wanna do that!" so often. It may have actually been life changing, as my current wish to leave NYS has gone from 'somewhere warmer' to 'somewhere that allows automatic weapons'. The Face went to work today and did many things not worth mention. He went to work, bought a Ma Deuce on a whim, put it together, and burned down a feild with it. It's rare that I'm ever envious of someone else; this is one of those times.
Quote: FaceIt's rare that I'm ever envious of someone else; this is one of those times.
Did you see last night where they got the barrel of the M-16 cherry red? Even they were in awe of that. Then the two M-16's mounted on the boat, both water cooled and firing at once. Yup, a religious experience for sure.
Quote: EvenBobDid you see last night where they got the barrel of the M-16 cherry red? Even they were in awe of that. Then the two M-16's mounted on the boat, both water cooled and firing at once. Yup, a religious experience for sure.
Ugh, I missed it, but will surely catch it on re-run. I can get my AR-15 hot enough to burn ya, but to get it glowing with a 10 shot clip (all NYS allows) and having to pull the trigger for each of those shots (all NYS allows) hardly seems feasible. Ah well. I shall just continue living vicariously.
Quote: FaceUgh, I missed it, but will surely catch it on re-run. I can get my AR-15 hot enough to burn ya,
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They ran 3 clips of 100 rounds each thru it. I wonder how much that cost..
Must be a successful show then. Lack of quality seems to imply commercial success.Quote: EvenBobhis jokes are stupid, his accent is phony, and I don't find anything about him funny.
Quote: FleaStiffMust be a successful show then. Lack of quality seems to imply commercial success.
He never uses his real voice in public. People who've seen him when he's not in character and dressed normally, say he's almost unrecognizable. Its not a 'secret' secret, you can find out about him on wiki. But 99% of his fans don't know he isn't Larry the Cable Guy in real life and he would lose his job if they found out.
Quote: EvenBobHe never uses his real voice in public. People who've seen him when he's not in character and dressed normally, say he's almost unrecognizable. Its not a 'secret' secret, you can find out about him on wiki. But 99% of his fans don't know he isn't Larry the Cable Guy in real life and he would lose his job if they found out.
I'd still watch. He is quick, witty, and very funny. Reminds me of a story that Gary Sinese (double leg amputee, Lt. Dan from the movie "Forrest Gump") told of meeting a woman who was amazed that his legs were, "healed".
I don't think "Larry" goes out of his way to hide his Nebraska roots. He wears a University of Nebraska hat and T-shirt all the time.
Quote: AyecarumbaI'd still watch. He is quick, witty, and very funny. ]
I must have missed those few minutes. Every time I see him on his show he's got the 'clueless moron' schtick going. It wasn't funny on Hee Haw and it hasn't improved with age. The last thing I saw was when a guy was mixing up ingredients for fireworks and Larry says "Gee whiz, that looks good enough to eat!", is his horrible fake accent. I hope he's not paying writers for his brilliance.
Quote: EvenBobThey ran 3 clips of 100 rounds each thru it. I wonder how much that cost..
Quote: P90About $120 and upward if they are using decent ammunition, or $75-$90 with total bargain stuff.
More than that I'd think. 300rds of .223 is $150 plus tax. 300 of .308 would be over $300. If I recall, an M16 fires 5.56mm which is just a heavier powdered .223, say $200ish? Either way, I can't think of a cooler (or faster) way to burn through $200 =).
Also 'bargain stuff' is usually laquered, which fouls almost every American made assault rifle, even the semi-auto's. Save that mess for your Kalishnakov.
