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When the Dead play these days do they play their old songs?

When Jerry was alive, and he played solo didn't he play no Dead songs? I think only the die hard fans were into his solo concerts.

I actually am into the Dead, not die hard but I like them, but wasn't Terrapin Part 1 more of a studio song? I know they played Fire on the Mountain at their concerts, I have a recording of Dead in the Desert in Vegas from 1991 I believe, where it was played. I used to have a Dead in the Desert tee shirt actually, lost it. I'm not a die hard fan, but I'd recognize most any Dead song if played.
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Dead and Co pretty much stick to the Grateful Dead repertoire
In my opinion, Jerry saved his best stuff(Cats under the Stars, Reuben and Cherise, Mission in the Rain) for JGB (Jerry Garcia Band) and rarely if ever played them with the Grateful Dead.
2nd part of Terrapin Station rarely played live
Fire on the Mt is generally preceded by Scarlet Begonias and the pair is known as Scarlet Fire

Yes that is what I understand, that when certain songs are played the Dead fans know that a certain specific one is coming up next.

But you're probably more knowledgeable about the Dead songs than most, for example if they play something like Fire on the Mountain you'll know it, but lesser fans might not even.

Hard to believe that Bob Weir is 76, I read that he was 16 when he started with them.

From what I understand, Jerry didn't die (directly) from drugs, but from when he tried to withdraw (on and off) and had a heart attack, something like Scott Weiland of STP, who got off heroin then OD'ed from stimulants that got to his bad heart.

Lol, MDawg points out discussing freeplay is better discussed in its proper thread...

Then hijacks with Grateful Dead discussion.

All good. Just ribbing you.

True...but, I just meant that the freeplay was already discussed there and if needed to be addressed the thoughts on both sides were already there. 😅

As far as the Dead I have an older friend who is very into them, who introduced me to their music, which my music taste is pretty eclectic and runs the gamut from some hard core punk all the way to traditional classical music. But I don't like heavy metal other than some songs. Also don't really like much rap or hip hop.

The concept of music in casinos is to make you feel good and powerful and like you're winning, or that you're about to win. You'll hear the James Bond Theme every now and then for sure in the high limit salon. Everyone wants to be James Bond.

SiriusXM channel 27 The Bridge played this on my last long distance casino drive just before the 5G radio stream crapped out from signal loss. So I may have to stick with the satellite radio subscription if I have to keep travelling down that road or play mp3 tunes from my phone instead. The navigation got goofed up too. Not sure which to use, the car nav or the Google maps. But when the signal goes out I can't reconnect properly without pulling over after I get the signal back which could be long after I'm lost on the road somewhere.
I've only heard this band on the radio way back when so it was startling to hear it now. So I thought I'd look up their video, and the lead singer looks like that guy (Robert Urich) who starred in the TV series Vegas in the late 70's.
From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegas_(1978_TV_series)
Dan Tanna (Robert Urich) is a high-end Las Vegas private detective, whose many different clients include series regular Phillip 'Slick' Roth (Tony Curtis), the owner of several hotel casinos, including the Maxim Hotel Casino and the Desert Inn hotel and country club in Las Vegas. Tanna is often called by private citizens to help investigate unsolved criminal cases, locate missing family or business associates, or even work in rather absurd situations, such as the property case of a nun, played by Cassie Yates, who has a claim deed that says she owns the Las Vegas land on which the Desert Inn Hotel Casino stands. Tanna has the reputation of being a high-risk crime problem-solver; thus, he will not accept bodyguard assignments or handle divorce cases. Given that many of his detective cases are dangerous, he carries a powerful sidearm at all times.




I'll throw in the first random episode of Vegas I ran across. I'm 10 minutes in and $50 thousand short.
Time Bomb - S3 E15 March 11, 1981

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There is no casino I have visited that didn't have that limit.

That surprises me. Many smaller casinos set those limits lower.

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There is no casino I have visited that didn't have that limit.

That surprises me. Many smaller casinos set those limits lower.
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Bad wording on my part.

There is no casino I have seen that had higher than that limit.

I have seen lower.

I might hire you as my editor :)

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Alleged ?????????
I dont even believe that anymore
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Personal insult. Considering many other recent suspensions, seven days.

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The alleged lawyer thinks ...
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Personal insult. Three days.

This thread went off the rails on page one and never recovered....LOL

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This thread went off the rails on page one and never recovered....LOL
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I agree. I've thought of splitting the thread and pulling all the later conversation into a new thread, but I'm not sure what to call it.

I'm about the only one left standing from the derailment anyway.

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Dude got 1!!!!! year of PROBATION….just shrugged their shoulders and couldn’t care less. That’s going to ensure it doesn’t continue to happen as frequently.…if no jail I’m shocked you don’t get like 5 years of probation, I suppose that’s reserved for the low end drug addicts. Why even bother with the cost of prosecution.
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I agree it’s a weak sentence but it was expected. The good thing is that he likely gave the feds tons of info to get rid of the groups that launder money in Nevada. This is a major problem btw. Go to any strip casino and you’ll see teams of Asians with sacks of cash blatantly laundering money. The people doing this look like they haven’t eaten, bathed or slept in weeks yet have thousands on them to put in the machines. They take pictures of the machine while they are playing and text I’m assuming their boss with the progress. All they likely get out of it are food comps and rooms to sleep in. Super sad, basically modern day slavery.

Here’s a report on how these groups operate. They target both land based and online casinos to funnel their money.

https://www.unodc.org/roseap/en/2024/casinos-casinos-cryptocurrency-underground-banking/story.html
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I'm not saying you're wrong about this happening. But a great many of those Asian groups are family or coworker or other community groups who pool their gaming money and have a designated player. They are valets, busmen, maids, maintenance workers, kitchen workers, dozens of other blue-collar jobs that exist around a casino area. It's a cultural thing.

Back 30+ years ago, when tens of thousands of Vietnamese boat fishermen were living and working on the Gulf Coast, it was very common to see 20 Asians standing behind one scruffy player in Mississippi, in the wee hours of the morning. They were his/her stakehorses in a community consortium. Or a couple of girls barely old enough to play coming in at 1k-5k per hand, working together, with people in the background refreshing their bankroll when needed. This was on PaiGow or MiniBacc. Only making the even-money bets, but huge, and nearly always a positive progression. I can hear Maimai now..."you win, you go UP! Must!"

There were a lot of regulars. I got to know a couple, plus several long-time Asian pit dealers. They were the ones who told me what was going on, plus a lot of other insights into how to play the games well. Those tables were a lot of fun - if you were respectful and open to it, they would run right along with you, lots of chatter, good-natured cheating, cheer and sigh. It didn't happen much during regular hours, but I think most of the consortium people worked first or second shift somewhere, then came out super-late to watch or play the games when the rest of the casino was mostly dead. The Asian pits never closed because of them, and I like the wee hours, so I saw a lot of them.

Slots are a different story, though perhaps related. I've seen a lot of young Asian women doing that, and so bored with it they didn't even look at the machine as they played - just kept feeding money and hitting the button while they were on their phones, hours on end. Could be a consortium account, could be what you said.

Correct.

The two varieties of this I've seen are the Asian friends and family (generally more the latter) who pool their money to play Baccarat. "So and so won three hundred thousand at Baccarat, we can do it too."

The others are individual players who pulled funds out of a home equity line of credit, savings or sale of business or property (basically, whatever) and then play large stakes Baccarat.

Sadly, in both scenarios they generally end up busted out eventually.

Then you also have the Baccarat teams where some old guy lures in players who come in with their own bankrolls! and are coached to win, and have to give the coach a percentage of all wins (but, the coach doesn't cover any losses...).

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This thread went off the rails on page one and never recovered....LOL
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Seriously. I said my piece on the matter and then completely derailed.

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Quote: mcallister3200

Dude got 1!!!!! year of PROBATION….just shrugged their shoulders and couldn’t care less. That’s going to ensure it doesn’t continue to happen as frequently.…if no jail I’m shocked you don’t get like 5 years of probation, I suppose that’s reserved for the low end drug addicts. Why even bother with the cost of prosecution.
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I agree it’s a weak sentence but it was expected. The good thing is that he likely gave the feds tons of info to get rid of the groups that launder money in Nevada. This is a major problem btw. Go to any strip casino and you’ll see teams of Asians with sacks of cash blatantly laundering money. The people doing this look like they haven’t eaten, bathed or slept in weeks yet have thousands on them to put in the machines. They take pictures of the machine while they are playing and text I’m assuming their boss with the progress. All they likely get out of it are food comps and rooms to sleep in. Super sad, basically modern day slavery.

Here’s a report on how these groups operate. They target both land based and online casinos to funnel their money.

https://www.unodc.org/roseap/en/2024/casinos-casinos-cryptocurrency-underground-banking/story.html
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I'm not saying you're wrong about this happening. But a great many of those Asian groups are family or coworker or other community groups who pool their gaming money and have a designated player. They are valets, busmen, maids, maintenance workers, kitchen workers, dozens of other blue-collar jobs that exist around a casino area. It's a cultural thing.

Back 30+ years ago, when tens of thousands of Vietnamese boat fishermen were living and working on the Gulf Coast, it was very common to see 20 Asians standing behind one scruffy player in Mississippi, in the wee hours of the morning. They were his/her stakehorses in a community consortium. Or a couple of girls barely old enough to play coming in at 1k-5k per hand, working together, with people in the background refreshing their bankroll when needed. This was on PaiGow or MiniBacc. Only making the even-money bets, but huge, and nearly always a positive progression. I can hear Maimai now..."you win, you go UP! Must!"

There were a lot of regulars. I got to know a couple, plus several long-time Asian pit dealers. They were the ones who told me what was going on, plus a lot of other insights into how to play the games well. Those tables were a lot of fun - if you were respectful and open to it, they would run right along with you, lots of chatter, good-natured cheating, cheer and sigh. It didn't happen much during regular hours, but I think most of the consortium people worked first or second shift somewhere, then came out super-late to watch or play the games when the rest of the casino was mostly dead. The Asian pits never closed because of them, and I like the wee hours, so I saw a lot of them.

Slots are a different story, though perhaps related. I've seen a lot of young Asian women doing that, and so bored with it they didn't even look at the machine as they played - just kept feeding money and hitting the button while they were on their phones, hours on end. Could be a consortium account, could be what you said.
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The baccarat makes sense the slots don’t. Sitting around bored for hours on end pushing a button on a negative EV machine not even looking at the screen screams money laundering. No matter how many times dark Oz screams “Multicarding!” Yea losing 20 grand a day on a few cards will never generate comps that equal the losses. Ever. If OZ wants to prove me wrong he can post proof in the forum of a W/L statement and corresponding mailers for that particular year and card. You can blur out the name or identifying details. IMGM shows total coin in on the W/L statement.

All you have to do is show me a single offer or multiple offers from mgm/mlife that would cover a 20k per day loss