MichaelBluejay
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January 30th, 2013 at 6:49:15 PM permalink
Bar Rescue is a reality TV show where in each episode they take a failing bar (pub) and give it a makeover. They'll be filming in Vegas soon. How do I know this? Because they called me and said they wanted me on the show because they needed a "slot expert". At first I told them that they probably wanted the Wizard, not me (though on second thought, while he's the bona-fide expert, I'd be more dynamic and engaging on TV, so maybe it's a tossup), but then as I figured what the show was really about (I've never seen it), I realized they wanted someone who knows slot *marketing*, like what kind of machines to get, how many, where to place them, etc. So I explained that a building contractor and a real estate agent are both "house experts", but they do two completely different things.

So neither the Wizard or I will be on TV again any time soon, at least not on that show. Oh, and when they asked for a referral for the kind of person they really need, I asked why they don't just call a slot manufacturer like IGT or Aristocrat? I imagine the manufacturers have sales reps who do little but advise about slot placement.

Anyway, Bar Rescue is coming to Vegas, whoo-hoo.
MathExtremist
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January 30th, 2013 at 7:30:43 PM permalink
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FleaStiff
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January 30th, 2013 at 9:33:11 PM permalink
The show would probably have preferred a bonafide expert on slot machines to be sitting there rendering opinions on slot machine mix and slot machine placement than to have an industry salesman on camera saying much the same thing.

Anyway it will be nice to see a "bar turnaround" somewhere in Vegas.

One of the similar shows for restaurants had their first or second episode in Las Vegas.

Some neutral expert going beyond the scope of his actual expertise is better for them than a salesman's pitch.

Nowadays most everyone is going to recommend: increasing the numbers of beers and the craft beers ... it seems to be all over town.
RonC
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January 31st, 2013 at 4:04:01 AM permalink
The last person they need is a shill for the slot industry who has the job of pushing his company's product. The best person they could choose is someone who has a picked the slot mix for a similar concept that is successful. They could use folks like the Wizard to talk about overall edge and evaluate the edge that produces the best mix of players that return often.
DJTeddyBear
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January 31st, 2013 at 4:53:40 AM permalink
I would have suggested the slot manager of a local's casino.
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January 31st, 2013 at 5:40:16 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

The last person they need is a shill for the slot industry who has the job of pushing his company's product. The best person they could choose is someone who has a picked the slot mix for a similar concept that is successful. They could use folks like the Wizard to talk about overall edge and evaluate the edge that produces the best mix of players that return often.



If you watch the show, you will see it is filled with shills who put their best interest before that of the bar in return for promotional allowances. An example is the show uses "experts" from a certain liquor company who then makes a new menu based only on their drinks. The drinks end up at a higher price than a bar trying to gain new customers needs.

If you look back at this show, many of the bars on the show have closed since the 2 seasons were filmed. One in Maryland actually turned on Jon Taffer and posted a Youtube video of them burning his new signage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSPkbJohdyo
AZDuffman
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January 31st, 2013 at 6:29:55 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

If you watch the show, you will see it is filled with shills who put their best interest before that of the bar in return for promotional allowances. An example is the show uses "experts" from a certain liquor company who then makes a new menu based only on their drinks. The drinks end up at a higher price than a bar trying to gain new customers needs.

If you look back at this show, many of the bars on the show have closed since the 2 seasons were filmed. One in Maryland actually turned on Jon Taffer and posted a Youtube video of them burning his new signage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSPkbJohdyo



I love he show but if could be called "Restaurant Impossible In A Bar."

It is filled with shills but these shows have been since "Queer Eye" showed how to skim more cash from placement. But the science of what works is what makes the show.

Fwiw the people in that bar in MD were kooks.
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FleaStiff
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January 31st, 2013 at 6:51:42 AM permalink
> since "Queer Eye" showed how to skim more cash from placement.
What is Queer Eye?

>Fwiw the people in that bar in MD were kooks.
Obviously.
Kooks not cooks or bartenders.
If a Pirate Themed place is what they wanted the owner should have moved to some fantasy accepting place.

They were located in a corporate and government agency area, not a touristy adventure land.
The employees undoubtedly loathed the local customer base and perhaps still do.
Boz
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January 31st, 2013 at 7:17:56 AM permalink
The were idiots at Piratz, no doubt about it, but many other places he tried to save went out as well or changed back. My point is that these shows dont always have the best interest of the bar owner or customer in mind when they make decisions based on ad dollars.
AlanMendelson
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January 31st, 2013 at 7:46:37 AM permalink
Those shows aren't too far off. I grew up in the restaurant business. My father and uncles owned restaurants in New York... some small, some big, some high end in the theater district, some delis and starting at the age of about 7 I was going with my father in and out of restaurants and kitchens and "learning" that way.

I would expect shills to be on the shows -- why else would some professional go on there but to push their brand, service, products, name, etc.

But the biggest lesson my father taught me -- and this is when he owned several restaurants in the theater district of NYC -- was when he took me for lunch at a little neighborhood luncheonette in Rockland County (a suburb of NYC) and the owner of this little luncheonette was going from table to table carefully cleaning the sugar shaker, and salt and pepper shakers at each and every table, and shining the metal holder for them, and then cleaning the chairs and the backs of the chairs. And my father said to me "he must be the owner and he will succeed because he cares about the quality of his place." I think I was about ten years old.

That stuck with me every day I went to work for my whole life.

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