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May 28th, 2025 at 7:54:30 AM permalink
Today is National Hamburger Day.
I want to know what sort of Deep State promotes a day for hamburgers, while ignoring its infinitely more tasteful cousin, the Cheeseburger.
Some ignorant folks may try to say a Cheeseburger is simply a hamburger with cheese added to it. The wise recognize that a hamburger is a cheeseburger that never lived up to it's potential.
Enjoy your one-cent hamburger from Burger King or Wendy's, but remember that the mighty cheeseburger got you where you are today.
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May 28th, 2025 at 10:44:33 AM permalink
I warn you that we lactose intolerant people are easily offended!

I consider the perfect hamburger to have a particular set of lettuce, tomato, pickle, onion [optional], bread, and condiments

meat: ground beef, not overcooked or undercooked [some pink is good but not a lot]
lettuce: must be fresh and crunchy, and not shredded
tomato: high quality from a good local source or your own garden
pickle: kosher dill or equal, not those sold as "hamburger dill"
onion: a small presence of vidalia or other very mild type mixed in with the mustard, not hot and not a whole slice
bread: a fresh bun, slices toasted face down on the grill or stovetop, OR thick texas toast made with artisan bread
condiments: only yellow mustard, green tomato relish, mayo. [if unable to get good tomato, a small amount of ketchup can be used as long as there's plenty of mustard]

OK, I admit cheese does add something. Lactose intolerants should use an aged cheese, swiss is good. If using something not aged I use half a slice. The cheese should be placed on the burger while cooking so it melts.
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May 28th, 2025 at 10:58:46 AM permalink
Amen on the non-shredded lettuce.
As for the pickle, take a real, whole pickle and slice it. I prefer lengthwise slices.

I am perfectly content to slightly crush the bun while toasting on the flat top. It evens out the toasting, and aesthetics won't matter in a few minutes, anyway.


There are times when I enjoy a caramelized onion, there are times when I like a charred onion, there are times when I want pickled onion. Variety is the spice, as they say.
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May 28th, 2025 at 11:23:18 AM permalink
I think that proves my point. A hamburger needs a half dozen toppings- tomato, lettuce, pickle, cole slaw, onions, etc.
The cheeseburger is a trinity of bun, beef, and cheese.

The only time I eat a burger without cheese is The Whopper.
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May 28th, 2025 at 11:26:25 AM permalink
I just learned that September 18th is National Cheeseburger Day, so I will take my leave and let the lactose-intolerant among us enjoy their day.
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May 28th, 2025 at 11:34:17 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I warn you that we lactose intolerant people are easily offended!

I consider the perfect hamburger to have a particular set of lettuce, tomato, pickle, onion [optional], bread, and condiments

meat: ground beef, not overcooked or undercooked [some pink is good but not a lot]
lettuce: must be fresh and crunchy, and not shredded
tomato: high quality from a good local source or your own garden
pickle: kosher dill or equal, not those sold as "hamburger dill"
onion: a small presence of vidalia or other very mild type mixed in with the mustard, not hot and not a whole slice
bread: a fresh bun, slices toasted face down on the grill or stovetop, OR thick texas toast made with artisan bread
condiments: only yellow mustard, green tomato relish, mayo. [if unable to get good tomato, a small amount of ketchup can be used as long as there's plenty of mustard]

OK, I admit cheese does add something. Lactose intolerants should use an aged cheese, swiss is good. If using something not aged I use half a slice. The cheese should be placed on the burger while cooking so it melts.
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Sorry, give me shredded every time.
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May 28th, 2025 at 11:51:14 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Today is National Hamburger Day.
I want to know what sort of Deep State promotes a day for hamburgers, while ignoring its infinitely more tasteful cousin, the Cheeseburger.
Some ignorant folks may try to say a Cheeseburger is simply a hamburger with cheese added to it. The wise recognize that a hamburger is a cheeseburger that never lived up to it's potential.
Enjoy your one-cent hamburger from Burger King or Wendy's, but remember that the mighty cheeseburger got you where you are today.
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It is also NATIONAL SENIOR HEALTH AND FITNESS DAY and being that I am a senior it means avoiding hamburgers at all cost. Saturated fat and huge amounts of calories are not on my diet.
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May 28th, 2025 at 11:53:18 AM permalink
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Quote: billryan

Today is National Hamburger Day.
I want to know what sort of Deep State promotes a day for hamburgers, while ignoring its infinitely more tasteful cousin, the Cheeseburger.
Some ignorant folks may try to say a Cheeseburger is simply a hamburger with cheese added to it. The wise recognize that a hamburger is a cheeseburger that never lived up to it's potential.
Enjoy your one-cent hamburger from Burger King or Wendy's, but remember that the mighty cheeseburger got you where you are today.
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It is also NATIONAL SENIOR HEALTH AND FITNESS DAY and being that I am a senior it means avoiding hamburgers at all cost. Saturated fat and huge amounts of calories are not on my diet.
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Why would I want to live long if I could not have hamburgers?
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May 28th, 2025 at 12:02:42 PM permalink
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I think that proves my point. A hamburger needs a half dozen toppings- tomato, lettuce, pickle, cole slaw, onions, etc.
The cheeseburger is a trinity of bun, beef, and cheese.

The only time I eat a burger without cheese is The Whopper.
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The only acceptable toppings on a hamburger are cheese and bacon.
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May 28th, 2025 at 12:04:03 PM permalink
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Why would I want to live long if I could not have hamburgers?
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Amen. That is my position on everything.
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May 28th, 2025 at 12:12:20 PM permalink
I will gladly pay you yesterday for a hamburger today.

Yesterday was what?

Yesterday, seems so far away.

I believe in a hamburger today!

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May 28th, 2025 at 12:24:30 PM permalink
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I think that proves my point. A hamburger needs a half dozen toppings- tomato, lettuce, pickle, cole slaw, onions, etc.
The cheeseburger is a trinity of bun, beef, and cheese.

The only time I eat a burger without cheese is The Whopper.
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The only acceptable toppings on a hamburger are cheese and bacon.
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What seasonings do you put on the meat?
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May 28th, 2025 at 12:26:58 PM permalink
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It is also NATIONAL SENIOR HEALTH AND FITNESS DAY and being that I am a senior it means avoiding hamburgers at all cost. Saturated fat and huge amounts of calories are not on my diet.
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that is such an anti-American statement I now think you must be a card-carrying Communist!!

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May 28th, 2025 at 12:55:16 PM permalink
These days, I cook 4- ounce pre-made burgers from a store.
If I were making my own - mix onion soup mix, Grillmates Smokehouse Maple, generic hamburger seasoning, a splash of Worcestershire sauce, oregano and dehydrated onions..
I cook the cheese directly on the pan until it starts to carmelize and then spread it on the already toasted bun. Lately, I've been topping it with a smoky aioli spread.
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May 28th, 2025 at 12:55:52 PM permalink
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May 28th, 2025 at 1:06:32 PM permalink
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I think that proves my point. A hamburger needs a half dozen toppings- tomato, lettuce, pickle, cole slaw, onions, etc.
The cheeseburger is a trinity of bun, beef, and cheese.

The only time I eat a burger without cheese is The Whopper.
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The only acceptable toppings on a hamburger are cheese and bacon.
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What seasonings do you put on the meat?
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Generally just salt and pepper.
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May 28th, 2025 at 1:16:12 PM permalink
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It is also NATIONAL SENIOR HEALTH AND FITNESS DAY and being that I am a senior it means avoiding hamburgers at all cost. Saturated fat and huge amounts of calories are not on my diet.
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that is such an anti-American statement I now think you must be a card-carrying Communist!!


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A Burger King Whopper is 677 calories. Throw in a small fry and a small Shake and you're over 1,500 calories
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May 28th, 2025 at 1:55:59 PM permalink
Hamburgers are my favorite food. I have traveled many miles out of my way just to eat at some of my favorite mom-and-pop hamburger shops. I try as many different Small Town Burger Shack as possible. I haven't been doing it much as of late, but I hope to be traveling to various lakes across the State Of Washington and Oregon this summer and trying as many as I can. I probably hit about 40 different locations Last Summer.

Shedded or not, they can both be good as long as it's Iceberg lettuce. They can stuff that green leaf lettuce where the sun doesn't shine.

Cheese or no cheese is fine with me, but you really shouldn't need cheese if it's a good burger in the first place. I'm not big on mustard, except for a few of the big chain places.


Diced onions and the right kind of special sauce can really make for a tasty hamburger or cheeseburger.

I stay away from the big fancy thick Burgers, I don't want anything over 6 oz, and I don't want them adding onion rings, chilly, jalapenos, or barbecue sauce and all that BS.

A lightly salted hamburger/cheeseburger with a moderate amount of Lettuce, tomato, onions, pickles, and some Special Sauce makes for a perfect burger.

I really wish they would stop with the fancy, extra crunchy, special seasoned french fries. Just some lightly golden, good old-fashioned french fries.
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May 28th, 2025 at 4:13:56 PM permalink
I've been to a few burger joints in my day - in fact, I was the first person to enter BLT when it opened at the Mirage.

I am not a fan of condiments, especially mustard, ketchup, tomato, pickles, mayo/"special sauce," and onion. Lettuce is OK, if it is leaf; shredded lettuce usually has too much core in it. At home, when I make a burger, the patty is just 20% fat (usually) ground beef with some pepper added - I used to add more seasonings, before my doctor told me to cut back on sodium - along with slices of Swiss and sharp cheddar cheese, leaf spinach, bacon (usually turkey bacon - I can't get the regular kind crunchy enough to my liking without burning it to a crisp, even though I like to say that turkey bacon should be saved for wrapping bacon-wrapped turkey to be served to people who use the phrase "Macy's Day Parade" at Thanksgiving), and bottled BBQ sauce (I used to use a local brand - Kinder's - before switching to No Sugar Added varieties, and Kinder's NSA isn't as good as Sweet Baby Ray's), usually on a Keto bun, although I have been known to use two pieces of a quartered burrito tortilla. Usually, I will make two 1/3-pound burgers, and boil some corn on the cob - I buy it more or less in bulk during the summer months and freeze it; you would be surprised how long it keeps in the freezer.
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May 28th, 2025 at 4:20:54 PM permalink
The "special sauce" should only be used sparingly to dip the fries in.
The fries should be hot and crisp on the outside, with not enough inside to warrant much attention.

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May 28th, 2025 at 10:05:28 PM permalink
I once took the Red Robin "Which burger are you?" quiz. The first question was "which cheese?" I answered bleu cheese. After about 10 questions, the result was that I am a Bleu Cheese Burger.
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May 28th, 2025 at 10:24:50 PM permalink
Back when I used to eat burgers five or six years ago I liked them 10 to 12 oz and rare bloody rare in the middle. Oh my dear God if you've never had a burger like that you don't know what you're missing. I posted several pictures here and people reacted like I'd lost my mind. Unless you burn the burger to a crisp and you gag the remnants down, it's not a real burger to them. It doesn't matter I've given it all up for Lent..
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May 29th, 2025 at 6:39:49 AM permalink
of course it's silly to claim somebody else's favorite thing is all wrong, each person being entitled to eat what they like

but there's a few that I have to comment on, of course realizing that this is 'just me'

bbq sauce: none please on my burger , or that flavoring on potato chips etc either. OK on traditional things

I can't understand A-wolf not liking 'greenleaf lettuce' but maybe that needs definition. A leaf of romaine is perfect

my mustard thoughts are a rant so I'll put them in spoiler cover:

When it comes to hot dogs and burgers, you DO NOT put ketchup only, without mustard, unless you are a little kid. Even if you put plenty of mustard, you should use only a little ketchup on a dog and none on a burger unless you have no tomato. You put a bunch of ketchup? YOU ARE A TINY BABY!! AN INFANT!!

Part of this driving me nuts is the phenomenon of McDonald's coming into the South and selling their burgers with automatic ketchup put on them. I remember those days and All True Southerners all said 'that's not going to last' it's disgusting. Lo and behold MikkyDs prevailed and prospered. I was really shaken and frankly still can't believe it

Bottom line: I can't be rational about this!

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Mustard is better than ketchup in every way.

Think about it. The choices of flavor alone outshines ketchup. Spicy brown, honey Dijon, horseradish, honey mustard, even plain yellow is leagues beyond the trash that is ketchup. Not to mention it’s way healthier, because a lot of mustards aren’t made with high fructose corn syrup and other disgusting preservatives.
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May 29th, 2025 at 6:56:32 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

of course it's silly to claim somebody else's favorite thing is all wrong, each person being entitled to eat what they like

but there's a few that I have to comment on, of course realizing that this is 'just me'

bbq sauce: none please on my burger , or that flavoring on potato chips etc either. OK on traditional things

I can't understand A-wolf not liking 'greenleaf lettuce' but maybe that needs definition. A leaf of romaine is perfect

my mustard thoughts are a rant so I'll put them in spoiler cover:

When it comes to hot dogs and burgers, you DO NOT put ketchup only, without mustard, unless you are a little kid. Even if you put plenty of mustard, you should use only a little ketchup on a dog and none on a burger unless you have no tomato. You put a bunch of ketchup? YOU ARE A TINY BABY!! AN INFANT!!

Part of this driving me nuts is the phenomenon of McDonald's coming into the South and selling their burgers with automatic ketchup put on them. I remember those days and All True Southerners all said 'that's not going to last' it's disgusting. Lo and behold MikkyDs prevailed and prospered. I was really shaken and frankly still can't believe it

Bottom line: I can't be rational about this!

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I find it irrational to eat anything green with the one exception being the green M&M.
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When it comes to hot dogs and burgers, you DO NOT put ketchup only, without mustard, unless you are a little kid. Even if you put plenty of mustard, you should use only a little ketchup on a dog and none on a burger unless you have no tomato. You put a bunch of ketchup? YOU ARE A TINY BABY!! AN INFANT!!

Part of this driving me nuts is the phenomenon of McDonald's coming into the South and selling their burgers with automatic ketchup put on them. I remember those days and All True Southerners all said 'that's not going to last' it's disgusting. Lo and behold MikkyDs prevailed and prospered. I was really shaken and frankly still can't believe it

Bottom line: I can't be rational about this!

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Mustard is better than ketchup in every way.

Think about it. The choices of flavor alone outshines ketchup. Spicy brown, honey Dijon, horseradish, honey mustard, even plain yellow is leagues beyond the trash that is ketchup. Not to mention it’s way healthier, because a lot of mustards aren’t made with high fructose corn syrup and other disgusting preservatives.

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I can't stand the ketchup glaze on meatloaf. I'd rather have it unglazed, or with an onion gravy.

People seem to think the ketchup glaze is fancier. Maybe it is, but it's not better.


A hint of 57 is sometimes ok.
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May 29th, 2025 at 7:49:59 AM permalink
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Quote: odiousgambit

of course it's silly to claim somebody else's favorite thing is all wrong, each person being entitled to eat what they like

but there's a few that I have to comment on, of course realizing that this is 'just me'

bbq sauce: none please on my burger , or that flavoring on potato chips etc either. OK on traditional things

I can't understand A-wolf not liking 'greenleaf lettuce' but maybe that needs definition. A leaf of romaine is perfect

my mustard thoughts are a rant so I'll put them in spoiler cover:

When it comes to hot dogs and burgers, you DO NOT put ketchup only, without mustard, unless you are a little kid. Even if you put plenty of mustard, you should use only a little ketchup on a dog and none on a burger unless you have no tomato. You put a bunch of ketchup? YOU ARE A TINY BABY!! AN INFANT!!

Part of this driving me nuts is the phenomenon of McDonald's coming into the South and selling their burgers with automatic ketchup put on them. I remember those days and All True Southerners all said 'that's not going to last' it's disgusting. Lo and behold MikkyDs prevailed and prospered. I was really shaken and frankly still can't believe it

Bottom line: I can't be rational about this!

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I find it irrational to eat anything green with the one exception being the green M&M.
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McShakes?
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May 29th, 2025 at 7:55:16 AM permalink
As a kid, my family had French's mustard, which I hated. I'd put ketchup on almost everything- steak, baked potato, hot dogs.
At some point, we switched to Gulden's Spicy, which I'd use on hot dogs and knishes. I rarely use ketchup at home and only use mustard when I snack on slices of Swiss cheese.
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May 29th, 2025 at 7:56:36 AM permalink
Of course, I'm partial to a greasy burger at Woolworth's lunch counter diner made by an old lady. (I first wrote "old lay")
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May 29th, 2025 at 4:02:58 PM permalink
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Of course, I'm partial to a greasy burger at Woolworth's lunch counter diner made by an old lady. (I first wrote "old lay")
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Don't be embarrassed, we all have a story of out first lay. I won't judge you based on her age. One of my friends first lay was with a woman that had only one leg. He didn't know it until he got into bed because she wore a prosthetic.
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May 29th, 2025 at 4:41:13 PM permalink
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Of course, I'm partial to a greasy burger at Woolworth's lunch counter diner made by an old lady. (I first wrote "old lay")
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Don't be embarrassed, we all have a story of out first lay. I won't judge you based on her age. One of my friends first lay was with a woman that had only one leg. He didn't know it until he got into bed because she wore a prosthetic.
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As long as all the other important pieces were present and accounted for otherwise, no big deal.
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