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MrV
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October 27th, 2015 at 9:42:01 AM permalink
Got to keep the crazies away from the gate, lest this board devolve into a

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TwoFeathersATL
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October 27th, 2015 at 9:59:54 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Saw me vulturing through ultimate x at Ameristar, and made the comment that I was "going to blow them out of the water". And he had his wallet in his hand in such a way where I could see part of a Kansas ID. At that point it was pretty trivial for me to ask if he posted on WoV.


I suppose that stands as proof that he is in the casinos, and watching others play, and even commenting on their play to them. Was he trying to enlist you in his team?

I did think that his presence added to the Forum, as he mentioned, uh, more than once ;-)
And some of his parting remarks had some veracity to them. It's a shame that some of the best, some of the brightest, some of the most colorful, cannot participate here simply because 'we all' have to color inside the drawn lines. But it is what it is, and it's still very good. Just my $0.02, you can bill me...
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darkoz
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October 27th, 2015 at 10:00:28 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I can handle the legalities here. It's Journalism 101.

He made the posts on his own without any contract. He can't withdraw them. Simply you can't unring a bell.



I can't speak about words in a forum but having no contract in the film world especially where your input is displayed openly to the public as coming from you, e.g. acting or song or soundtrack, voice, etc, can result in very difficult issues.

Say for example, you have an actor with no contract in your film. If after filming, the actor says he no longer wants to have his image seen in your film and you have no contract with him, then you are squat out of luck.

The logical argument would be that by showing up to film and reading the script and portraying the character he de facto is giving his express permission to be in the film, but that is not the way it works. He could literally make your film unscreenable. People do have permission to control their images if you move forward without a contract.

Now how does that pertain to a forum and written words. I don't know!
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darkoz
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October 27th, 2015 at 10:06:38 AM permalink
In the world of writing, (novels, short stories) you cannot even quote a line from a song without written permission.

This would point to words of authorship as having some protection.

BTW - the most accidentally copyright infringed song is Happy Birthday. I don't know if it's public yet but as late as the nineties people who sung this song in movies had to pay the author. It was still copywritten and a lot of people (especially student or first time film-makers) didn't realize that.
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rdw4potus
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October 27th, 2015 at 10:12:03 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

In the world of writing, (novels, short stories) you cannot even quote a line from a song without written permission.

This would point to words of authorship as having some protection.

BTW - the most accidentally copyright infringed song is Happy Birthday. I don't know if it's public yet but as late as the nineties people who sung this song in movies had to pay the author. It was still copywritten and a lot of people (especially student or first time film-makers) didn't realize that.



As of about a month ago, that copyright was struck down. Now the lyrics and melody are public domain. Possibly, one specific piano arrangement may or may not still be copyrighted.
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Zcore13
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October 27th, 2015 at 10:13:10 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

In the world of writing, (novels, short stories) you cannot even quote a line from a song without written permission.

This would point to words of authorship as having some protection.

BTW - the most accidentally copyright infringed song is Happy Birthday. I don't know if it's public yet but as late as the nineties people who sung this song in movies had to pay the author. It was still copywritten and a lot of people (especially student or first time film-makers) didn't realize that.



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Joeman
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October 27th, 2015 at 10:18:58 AM permalink
Wow, does that mean we no longer have to endure those lame/crappy Birthday songs they make the waitstaff sing at chain restaurants? I always assumed corporate wouldn't allow them to sing "Happy Birthday" because of copyright issues.
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TwoFeathersATL
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October 27th, 2015 at 10:20:57 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

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And I thought I remembered Sir Paul having bought the rights to that song, must have been a different tune ;-)
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Ibeatyouraces
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October 27th, 2015 at 10:33:46 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Well this was an interesting turn of events.

And you're right Ibeatyouraces, DI is never taken kindly here.

I actually met exoter on Thursday in St. Louis by complete chance. We talked quite a bit and he seemed pretty knowledgeable on machine play, but not like I could prove how successful or not successful he is. He seemed pretty nice overall, and quite the smooth talker. I tried to warn him that the forum doesn't let things slide with profanity and more, he did seem a little irked by the suspension. But he didn't curse that much in front of me, fwiw.

One the thing that got me was, he made it sound like he got a solid $300 a day doing machine ap and made little comment about bad swings at times. Maybe he just didn't think to talk about those as much. It just sounded like his variance was less than it should really be. But of course he was managing his group and all those winnings were pooled and he got a cut of them too, so that smooths things out I guess.

The forum unfortunately has had quite a few people making bold claims quickly and they haven't panned out. It's like you can't trust a new member anymore. There are a few gamblers out there who make consistent money, and maybe he is one of them, but hard for me to be for sure.


I didn't really have any doubts about his machine play success. I'm sure there are a lot of them I don't know about mainly because they aren't available around here, and when we travel, it's strictly about table games with a little UX thrown in. I wish he would've toned down the language a little when he came back, not that it bothered me, so that the inevitable (which happened) wouldn't happen.
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AlanMendelson
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October 27th, 2015 at 10:35:12 AM permalink
Indeed I control the rights to my name and image until I voluntarily post on this forum and use my Facebook photo as my avatar. Now the Wiz can say Alan Mendelson posts on my site.

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