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FleaStiff
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April 4th, 2014 at 2:51:31 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

But at the same time I live with the fact that I'm only a whiskey jug away from making a buffoon of myself again.


Aren't we all.
tringlomane
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April 4th, 2014 at 2:53:28 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

PaiGow1986 is Nuked for Personal Insult and Trolling.



This brings me great joy.
skrbornevrymin
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April 4th, 2014 at 5:31:55 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I'm not into politics myself (not since I rediscovered history; it tends to put thing in perspective).



Unfortunately, it is usually the perspective of the one(s) writing the history - the dead and the oppressed don't do much writing.
Too much history is written several generations later by people who weren't even there and never even met someone who was.

However, one could say that the passage of time helps us to gain perspective of how important some history was and how it affected people over a period of time.
kenarman
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April 5th, 2014 at 9:54:50 AM permalink
Quote: skrbornevrymin

Unfortunately, it is usually the perspective of the one(s) writing the history - the dead and the oppressed don't do much writing.
Too much history is written several generations later by people who weren't even there and never even met someone who was.

However, one could say that the passage of time helps us to gain perspective of how important some history was and how it affected people over a period of time.



As is clearly indicated by the bible and it's fables.
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AZDuffman
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April 5th, 2014 at 9:56:35 AM permalink
Quote: kenarman

As is clearly indicated by the bible and it's fables.



Parables.
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24Bingo
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April 5th, 2014 at 10:01:51 AM permalink
First fables, then parables. And in between some spotty history, some song lyrics, some pith, and some porn. Then a travelogue, then some theology, then a ninety-year-old on shrooms.
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Nareed
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April 5th, 2014 at 11:43:26 AM permalink
Quote: kenarman

As is clearly indicated by the bible and it's fables.



Myths. Fables are known to be allegorical, not intended to be taken as truthful
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Nareed
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April 5th, 2014 at 11:46:41 AM permalink
Quote: skrbornevrymin

Unfortunately, it is usually the perspective of the one(s) writing the history -



I suppose you mean the winners, as that is the usual cliche. Furhter, it would be self-evident only those histories that get written get read ;)

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Too much history is written several generations later by people who weren't even there and never even met someone who was.



Yes, with some notable exceptions like Julius Caesar's own writtings, and Procopious's chronicles of Justinian in real time. However, competent historians look for primary sources. Any writings of the era, naturally, but also artifacts, art and whatever else the anhtropologists and archeologists, literally, dig up.
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Nareed
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April 5th, 2014 at 11:50:38 AM permalink
Quote: skrbornevrymin

- the dead and the oppressed don't do much writing.



I almost missed this.

Sometimes even so their stories get told. If you can stomach it, I recommend reading Inferno by Max Hastings. It's a history of people during WWII, drawn from letters, diaries and other primary documents like that. I warn you, though, it contains many and very long descriptions of cruel, inhuman, barbaric and unspeakable acts such as death, torture, war, wanton cruelty, rape, starvation, disease, etc.
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AZDuffman
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April 5th, 2014 at 1:26:36 PM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

First fables, then parables. And in between some spotty history, some song lyrics, some pith, and some porn. Then a travelogue, then some theology, then a ninety-year-old on shrooms.


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All fables and parables are fictional, their point is to teach a lesson not to report on history. The Bible is full of good lessons in this respect.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others

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