Discussion about the Suspension List
Quote: MrVFair enough.
Please start some threads about current casino surveillance.
What is the technology your casino uses?
What procedures do you use to spot AP's?
Please include some info that is not commonly known or available on the 'net, so that viewers can satisfy themselves that you are what you say you are, and not that monkey moron who keeps trying to piss all over the board.
I for one would welcome and follow such threads.
Writing up something now :)
Quote: RonCAgain, moderators, I don't get why you don't bust people who exceed the post limit on their first day. Don't be overly harsh, just point out the rule and tell them they will be welcome back in a couple of days. Tell them the ban will be for double the days they over-post by the next time, so they need to be careful. Let them back in at the end of the initial ban. If they over-post again, there is a clue. Someone trying to join us for the right reason will more than likely fly straight; someone that likes monkeys, lions, tigers, and bears will probably not do so.
Then use your powers to nail them on the IP stuff...
Perhaps some mods feel the limits are too tight as written because of the 10+number of days thing...maybe allow 5 per day for new members for the first month. Then decent contributors can be part of the conversation but the idiots will not stay under any limit. That would also give you a lot of posts to use for busting bad actors without just letting them do whatever the heck they want.
Quote: beachbumbabsI'm going to assume you're referring to Dodsferd this time, in making your point about the postings. I clarified I understood this rule before I dissect it here now. Day 1 = 11. Day 2 = 12. Day 3 = 13. etc to day 30. The automatic shutoff was disabled at some point years ago. But the rule resets per day; it's not a total of 40 posts in 30 days.
Dodsferd Day 1 = 6. Dodsferd Day 2 = 10. Dodsferd Day 3 = 2. So he has not abused this rule. However, since he got many questions and hostile posts directed at him, and chose to answer them, I probably would not have faulted him if he had gone over this limit. He's not the only one on here lately who has tried to answer the many questions put to him as a new member, then been accused of over-posting.
Re: his IP and other tracking. No problems in that area, in fact appears to confirm he is who and where he says he is. And not any one else, past or present. It will continue to be monitored, as are all posters.
This immediate jumping on every person who signs up here has got to stop. Not just you, RonC. If you all want to let Bacc79 win the troll game, just keep freaking out on every new member; this forum will dissolve in a vortex of paranoia and hostility, as new people are driven off and regulars are turned off by the constant drama and leave. Instead, let new people who are trolls expose themselves; they can't help it.
This is a discussion of the suspension list, BBB. I am not referring to any particular member at all. I am talking about a rule that is not enforced and how enforcement of it could help stop some of the stuff that has been going on around here. I accused LionB79 of breaking the posting limit, which he did, and I also asked him for pictures to prove that he was anywhere near one of the gambling destinations he met. My opinion is that someone trying to be something they aren't is going to hate the lack of free rein to post as much as they like and get bored and either quit or make a mistake that makes them more quickly identifiable as an intruder. They want attention.
Quote: DodsferdI've already stated that I'm willing to forfeit information to confirm who I am, and that doesn't seem to satisfy anyone.
I think you would have to prove you have not been on the Internet in the last couple months. Who you are, doesn't always preclude who you are not. Posting over the border is only mildly interesting, but still not proof of where you can be yesterday or tomorrow.
Carry on. Just my point of view.
Quote: rxwineI think you would have to prove you have not been on the Internet in the last couple months. Who you are, doesn't always preclude who you are not. Posting over the border is only mildly interesting, but still not proof of where you can be yesterday or tomorrow.
Carry on. Just my point of view.
Why does he have to prove anything? Why can't he/she just post and if he/she breaks any rules or causes any problems then it gets dealt with.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Why does he have to prove anything? Why can't he/she just post and if he/she breaks any rules or causes any problems then it gets dealt with.
ZCore13
Of course. Never said otherwise. I'm just commenting on the idea of his proving something.
Last six months or so this thread is the main reason I come here.I get to shake my head almost every day. Most everything else is sparring with the admins and the usual know-it-alls and their drivel.Quote: 1BBThere's not a heck of a lot about gambling in the top 20 threads that make up the first page. This board has a lot of Diversity Today. :-)
Quote: EvenBobWhy is freelancepics suspended? He pops up
as soon a B79 thread is revived and whamo,
he's gone.
No mod knows what happened to freelancepics?
Quote: chickenmanLast six months or so this thread is the main reason I come here.I get to shake my head almost every day. Most everything else is sparring with the admins and the usual know-it-alls and their drivel.
Chuckle, chuckle. So true. Such a shame the old timers drill it into the ground such worthless discussion.
Quote: EvenBobNo mod knows what happened to freelancepics?
Not to worry -- he created another new I.D. quickly enough. Or maybe it was two new ones.
Quote: DocNot to worry -- he created another new I.D. quickly enough. Or maybe it was two new ones.
you guys live, eat and breathe for this stuff huh????? Chuckle, Chuckle.
Quote:just assume it is what we all are thinking.
^^ Do that.
Quote: djatcSuspending all these sockpuppets must be like cleaning a spill on the highway....
More like trying to put snakes in a bag.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13More like trying to put snakes in a bag.
ZCore13
I assume you mean this literally and it's not a penis - condom reference. (I apologize for the bad humor, but not enough to remove it) :/
Quote: Zcore13More like trying to put snakes in a bag.
ZCore13
What about nailing Jello to the wall?
Quote: DodsferdWhat about nailing Jello to the wall?
Nah, more like scraping flung monkey dung off the wall.
2nd conspiracy, b79 is mickey
Quote: GWAEOk, my conspiracy theory. B79 comes in as a somewhat legitimate sp and starts to get away with it. To put people off the scent he comes in with quads blazing to be obvious. People forget about the other new person because we assume he cN only operate 1 name at a time.
2nd conspiracy, b79 is mickey
3rd conspiracy: Maybe B79 wasn't his first account.....but he's been a member of this forum for a long time.
4th conspiracy: Maybe YOU'RE B79! What a great way to drive the scent of B79 in the wrong direction by coming up with these "conspiracies", huh? HERETIC! WITCH!!!!*
His main "crime" is returning after being banned and flaunting it, much to the chagrin of our overworked administrators. Everyone has the choice of not reading his posts and not engaging him. You can't have it both ways. You can't enable him and then complain and expect something to be done. He's back so often that his new names aren't even even placed on the suspension list.
Is anyone here still in contact with him? I know some have exchanged phone numbers and other information with him. How about one of you give him a call and ask him what's going on? Does anyone here still think he has value? In an odd way maybe he does.
Quote: 1BBIs he really that disrupting to the forum? He's not that insulting, he's not vulgar and he's actually somewhat polite at times. He's made some good posts and given us some entertainment. I enjoyed the lion457 character. Go Manny! Or was it Moe?
His main "crime" is returning after being banned and flaunting it, much to the chagrin of our overworked administrators. Everyone has the choice of not reading his posts and not engaging him. You can't have it both ways. You can't enable him and then complain and expect something to be done. He's back so often that his new names aren't even even placed on the suspension list.
Is anyone here still in contact with him? I know some have exchanged phone numbers and other information with him. How about one of you give him a call and ask him what's going on? Does anyone here still think he has value? In an odd way maybe he does.
I was one of his earliest and longest supporters. I remembered him from another board and never really knew why he left there; the actions here and the stuff I found on other boards led me to the conclusion it was basically the same stuff on each board. Comes in, great stories (with pictures in many cases), gets in a battle with someone, and all goes bad. As to reproducing himself as multiple folks, I did not see that before but the moderators could have quashed those efforts.
I don't think he is valued or should be welcomed here unless he at least pays off the best that he made. I don't think he would be welcomed back anyway, but he made bets with people and then no showed. That is a terminal offense as far as I am concerned. The least he should have done is apologized before the date of the bets and asked for them to be canceled.
Then there is attack on AoS, a member in good standing. I'm not sure the board could, or should, get over that.
Stretching stories a bit...well, I am betting that happens all of the time, so that part does not bother me too much with the exception of the MGM fire thing. Either you were there or you weren't.
If I had a vote, and if that vote mattered, I wouldn't be in favor of bringing any of his identities back.
Remember when Buzzard kept coming back and some thought it was cute? i don't see a difference here.
/sarcasm
But seriously, I don't think the issue is that he's a troll, annoying, etc. it's the fact that he originally attacked members here (welching on bets, trolled with his weird bacarat stories, did weird sh*t with AOS that I'm still confused about, etc.). By no means should someone be permitted to return from a permanent ban if he keeps coming back and attacking this very community.
If a burglar is in your house, you either chase him out or shoot him. You don't invite him back so he can continue shltting on your carpet.
Does he not see how sad/pathetic we view him in trying to come back to this forum w/fake accts?
Quote: RSCan I get a hint?
her initials are Jenny
Quote: GWAEb79 is mickey
His name was Mickey Crimm. He would tell anyone to their face what's what without sneaking around under false ID's.
If Mickey was 79 [he wasn't] he would have already threatened to kick Wizzard's derrier.
All Mickey needed was an editor, and I believe it was offered once or twice. He left under his own volition, of course after being nuked by the sheriff. And that, even hurt the sheriff.
Quote: petroglyphHis name was Mickey Crimm. He would tell anyone to their face what's what without sneaking around under false ID's.
If Mickey was 79 [he wasn't] he would have already threatened to kick Wizzard's derrier.
All Mickey needed was an editor, and I believe it was offered once or twice. He left under his own volition, of course after being nuked by the sheriff. And that, even hurt the sheriff.
Mickey Crimm with an editor wouldn't have been Mickey Crimm.
I don't think Mickey would threaten to kick Wizard's ass (at least when he was sober). He seemed to appreciate wizard's position and recognize that the problem was his own and of his own making (again, at least when he was sober).
I enjoyed and miss Mickey Crimm and his posts, even the bad ones (entertainment value). Of all the people that have exited the site due to behavior 'problems' and rules violations, Mickey Crimm is the one, that I really wish we could some how find a way to make it work.
True that : )Quote: kewljMickey Crimm with an editor wouldn't have been Mickey Crimm.
Quote: 1BBHow many members have been reinstated after a permanent ban? I can think of one. If no one remembers, I'll give you a hint on he one I'm thinking of.
I don't think she broke any online forum rules. At least not in her posts you can see.
Quote: petroglyph
All Mickey needed was an editor, and I believe it was offered once or twice. He left under his own volition, of course after being nuked by the sheriff. And that, even hurt the sheriff.
set up a breathalyzer on his computer?
he must pass before he's allowed to post?
Quote: 100xOddsset up a breathalyzer on his computer?
he must pass before he's allowed to post?
He might see it as a challenge to do a work around, hehe
"just another notch on his guitar"
Quote: kewlj
I enjoyed and miss Mickey Crimm and his posts, even the bad ones (entertainment value).
You should have seen a few of the ones I deleted...
insufferable blowhard. I have a low tolerance
for old drunks, having dealt with my share
of them years ago. I don't miss him, I never
think about it. The member I do miss is
B-9, he was a riot sometimes. Smart guy,
he kept many threads going all by himself.
Quote: Mission146You should have seen a few of the ones I deleted...
yeah, I'll bet. LOL
Quote: rxwineI don't think she broke any online forum rules. At least not in her posts you can see.
You're right but that didn't stop her from getting banned. I recall that the ban was because of a dust up between her and the Wizard after they met at a strip casino. An argument ensued over money (who could have seen that coming) and he banned her from the site. That probably couldn't happen today.
Poor Jennifer. Nobody understood her - or did they.
I call the post my "Nixon", explaining that it's not really a crook, but it looks a bit like one*. It's possible that this description is slightly relevant to a recent question, but I'm not sure.
* If the historical reference slips by anyone, I apologize. I'm a geezer, and so are most of my neighbors to whom I make that comment.
Quote: 1BBHow many members have been reinstated after a permanent ban? I can think of one. If no one remembers, I'll give you a hint on the one I'm thinking of.
You forgot your buddy with the t-shirts for sale. I worked for and got him a reprieve.
Quote: beachbumbabsYou forgot your buddy with the t-shirts for sale. I worked for and got him a reprieve.
Like Charlie on the M.T.A he never returned. Maybe he's still traumatized.
Could also try a token credit card charge (1 cent) for all new accounts. You'd get real ID info for each new member. No way to fake that sort of thing without engaging in credit card fraud. Losers like this typically have loser friends but it's unlikely they would all be willing to lend their credit card details to him.
Quote: AussieCould also try a token credit card charge (1 cent) for all new accounts. You'd get real ID info for each new member. No way to fake that sort of thing without engaging in credit card fraud. Losers like this typically have loser friends but it's unlikely they would all be willing to lend their credit card details to him.
My credit card info has probably been stolen by the Chinese and Russians anyway. What's one more? Heh.
Quote: AussieShould disable new member sign ups for a few months. That's probably the only way to stop such a deranged individual as you've got on your hands. Even a nutter like this would get sick of it and move on if they couldn't wreak their havoc.
Could also try a token credit card charge (1 cent) for all new accounts. You'd get real ID info for each new member. No way to fake that sort of thing without engaging in credit card fraud. Losers like this typically have loser friends but it's unlikely they would all be willing to lend their credit card details to him.
Best post in a while, but wouldn't cover those (1 in particular) who are already here and complain about how the site is run, while unwilling to put up the money to buy it and be king.
Quote: BozBest post in a while, but wouldn't cover those (1 in particular) who are already here and complain about how the site is run, while unwilling to put up the money to buy it and be king.
Welcome back, Boz! I see that you took a little break.
I like your thinking.Quote: AussieShould disable new member sign ups for a few months. That's probably the only way to stop such a deranged individual as you've got on your hands. Even a nutter like this would get sick of it and move on if they couldn't wreak their havoc.
Could also try a token credit card charge (1 cent) for all new accounts. You'd get real ID info for each new member. No way to fake that sort of thing without engaging in credit card fraud. Losers like this typically have loser friends but it's unlikely they would all be willing to lend their credit card details to him.
Unfortunately they wouldn't want to stop new members from joining.
They should put back the limited number of pots one can make. If a legit person really has that much to say or add, then I'm sure someone can privately verify if they are legit.
I really think the forum should have different levels of verified status perhaps various icons in their profile.
Example. X member has paid all pending bets. X member has been to a WOV meet up. X member is a former WSOP champion. X member is a verified casino employee.
X member drives a Gay Miata (-:
Someone like AOS is a verified Attorney, verified mid lever BJ player(30 losses in a row not verified), and makes good on bets(not sure if he has made any bets however I would risk it)
Quote: AxelWolfI find it interesting that a lot of our new members have the same posting scheduled.
I don't understand what you mean, Axel. Could you elaborate?
