Discussion III about the Suspension List
Quote: darkozThere is some circular logic to being accused of Importing WOV DRAMA through another site.
Reminds me of a youtuber years ago. His viral video was posted on the news. So he posted the news item discussing his video and then received a strike from YouTube for posting someone else's content. Which was his content being discussed on their content.
I think the news program backed down when THAT went viral.
Don't expect the same results in this situation.
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The Irony and reality
The biggest complainer of insults is the biggest insulter
"In apology to Gordonm888"
What's this about?
He wrote on 2/29 that it'll be done by next Fri.
It's now April.
What's going on there?
Quote: 100xOddsWizard 3 days Penance?
"In apology to Gordonm888"
What's this about?
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First, let me say that I have tremendous respect for Mike and enjoy working for him in this administrator job!
A few days ago I made a post that stated my ruling that terapined had not imported "drama" per se into the WOV forum and that no suspension was warranted. A few hours after that, Wizard (unaware of what I had done) posted that terapined had imported drama from another forum and suspended him for 3 days. whoops! Not a big deal, IMO.
terapined has since posted that he was not at all upset about the 3 day suspension but Wizard genuinely felt bad that he had had not communicated appropriately and unintentionally made a different ruling than the one that I had publicly made. When Wizard told me he intended to take a suspension as penance I told him that I felt that was completely unnecessary and that I wasn't angry in the slightest.. But he has self-suspended anyway in an excess of ethical virtue. And left me looking a bit like the villain in his suspension, LOL.
I wonder if the fact that Wizard's self-suspension from the forum occurs at the same time as the total eclipse is a complete coincidence? Dunno. Let's just go with the flow.
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I wonder if the fact that Wizard's self-suspension from the forum occurs at the same time as the total eclipse is a complete coincidence? Dunno. Let's just go with the flow.
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A shadow hanging over him, you say?
Started at old Prodigy where I would post reviews of Grateful Dead concerts I attended
Usenet newsgroups was a blast as people with the same interests gathered in the early internet years until spammers and trolls wrecked the party
One of my favorite places to post these days is Reddit
That place covers just about any topic I have an interest in and the informative responses are educational
I participated in several different anti scientology forums over the years. Scientology actually came on a forum and doxxed me. I was a out in the open critic so it didn't bother me.
One forum had a great idea since discussions got very heated even among those that are anti scientology
They created the thunderdome
A special area of the forum blocked from the public where anything goes. Everybody recommended not going in the thunderdome because many came out with scars and were livid.
Maybe we need a Thunderdome here
Lots and lots of forums out there just like this one
This is just a forum
Nothing to get obsessed about here unless you are some weirdo
There are forums that obsesses about other forums. It's extremely rare but fascinating. Maybe this weird obsession is due to no Thunderdome
Quote: terapinedI've participated in lots and lots of forums over the years
Started at old Prodigy where I would post reviews of Grateful Dead concerts I attended
Usenet newsgroups was a blast as people with the same interests gathered in the early internet years until spammers and trolls wrecked the party
One of my favorite places to post these days is Reddit
That place covers just about any topic I have an interest in and the informative responses are educational
I participated in several different anti scientology forums over the years. Scientology actually came on a forum and doxxed me. I was a out in the open critic so it didn't bother me.
One forum had a great idea since discussions got very heated even among those that are anti scientology
They created the thunderdome
A special area of the forum blocked from the public where anything goes. Everybody recommended not going in the thunderdome because many came out with scars and were livid.
Maybe we need a Thunderdome here
Lots and lots of forums out there just like this one
This is just a forum
Nothing to get obsessed about here unless you are some weirdo
There are forums that obsesses about other forums. It's extremely rare but fascinating. Maybe this weird obsession is due to no Thunderdome
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I lay claim to Mad Max as my Thunderdome Avatar!
And Wizard's Penance Suspension was supposed to eed yesterday. 💡😀
Quote: NathanIt's time to let Romes out of the doghouse. 😀💡 Romes has a 3 day Suspension, not a week Suspension and it's day 5. 💡
And Wizard's Penance Suspension was supposed to eed yesterday. 💡😀
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Romes was released from suspension the doghouse on time. (The records were not properly updated.)
Wizard can effect his own prison break once he has satisfactorily demonstrated his contrition.
My suggestion to renew the practice of selling indulgences has, sadly, not been approved. I think it would be a real time-saver.
Quote: WizardShag sameach everyone! I pleasantly note we have gone 19 days without a suspension (my penance does not count). Let's honor Passover by behaving ourselves and going another week, at least.
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All the posts have been believable
We often get these stories of people that say they can beat the casino consistently on a negative game here
It's just normal not to believe those stories
Some members get obsessively defensive to the point of insulting somebody when confronting a normal reaction of not believing
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ROTFL
Am I getting under somebody's skin or what
How long did you go in the way back machine to find this
Your research is revealing a weird obsession
You went through 3 years of posts to find this??????
Too funny
Shouldn't let other people live in your head
3 years later and I love the RV life
Best decision I ever made 😉
Not confined to just playing cards.
Glad you enjoyed it. 😇
Quote: MDawgTotal recall works like that.
Not confined to just playing cards.
Glad you enjoyed it. 😇
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Its almost as if you viewed the last Wizard post as a challenge lol
I think its weird that you dug up another members insult of me to repost and insult me today
Even weider
This is from 3 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you spend a lot of time in the way back machine?
Its the revelation of your obsession I am enjoying. You researched 3 years of posts. WOW
Chill out dude
Its just a forum
Whats next ?
Call me your baby reindeer. (see netflix to get the joke)
Quote: terapinedQuote: MDawgTotal recall works like that.
Not confined to just playing cards.
Glad you enjoyed it. 😇
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Its almost as if you viewed the last Wizard post as a challenge lol
I think its weird that you dug up another members insult of me to repost and insult me today
Even weider
This is from 3 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you spend a lot of time in the way back machine?
Its the revelation of your obsession I am enjoying. You researched 3 years of posts. WOW
Chill out dude
Its just a forum
Whats next ?
Call me your baby reindeer. (see netflix to get the joke)
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To be fair, you started it today with your post right after the Wizard post.
Quote: unJonQuote: terapinedQuote: MDawgTotal recall works like that.
Not confined to just playing cards.
Glad you enjoyed it. 😇
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Its almost as if you viewed the last Wizard post as a challenge lol
I think its weird that you dug up another members insult of me to repost and insult me today
Even weider
This is from 3 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you spend a lot of time in the way back machine?
Its the revelation of your obsession I am enjoying. You researched 3 years of posts. WOW
Chill out dude
Its just a forum
Whats next ?
Call me your baby reindeer. (see netflix to get the joke)
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To b me fair, you started it today with your post right after the Wizard post.
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That was generic not insulting anyone
It was an overview of many situations here regarding many stories from many different members such as Varmenti ect
Quote: unJonI’m just saying if you want to dish it out then take it proportionately.
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I’ll agree with UJ here. Terapined, your post had the clear intention of poking at those whose silly claims you have derided in the past. They know who they are. You were NOT thinking Varmenti.
That being said, I find MDawgs ability to scour through decades of old posts and come up with one to exemplify his point quite remarkable.
I forgot which thread this is. If it’s the ‘terapined’ thread, I think his journey is quite remarkable. I distinctly remember meeting Ed in Florida while he still owned a house, and he mentioned in vague terms the idea he was planning. By ANY standard it’s been a total success.
I hope he chooses not to escalate this silly tiff and get suspended. I for one enjoy his street art photos and other travel stories.
Quote: WizardShag sameach everyone! I pleasantly note we have gone 19 days without a suspension (my penance does not count). Let's honor Passover by behaving ourselves and going another week, at least.
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I wonder what the record is?
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: WizardShag sameach everyone! I pleasantly note we have gone 19 days without a suspension (my penance does not count). Let's honor Passover by behaving ourselves and going another week, at least.
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I wonder what the record is?
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I can recall going about 30 days without a suspension, at the beginning of this year from early February to early March. But then sometimes we seem to have almost a dozen suspensions in a week or so.
Edit: Since the beginning of 2017 this seems to be the longest interval (38 days) without a suspension:
sabre 10/13/20 5 days Personal insult/profanity
Marcusclark66 9/5/20 14 days Personal insult/trolling -- Martingale
Quote: MDawg
20 years ago my wife and I used to eat at this restaurant in a mall that had an annual RV show and just for kicks we would walk through the RVs that cost over $100,000.
They were giant monsters and they had all these small appliances and small furniture and whistles and bells and we could not imagine living in one of these things for a week let alone full time. And these are really big, how people live in the small ones that are barely bigger than a closet is a mystery to me. Each show is own I guess, the fact that you can drive your house from one town to another does not impress me. I've been all over this country and most places I go to I never want to go back again, I'm very happy where I am leaving the house maybe 2 or 3 times a month. I've seen lots of YouTube videos with decent people living in RV parks surrounded by certified nut jobs. They're always afraid, why you would want to live that way on purpose if you didn't have to. Who's my neighbor this week, a nice guy or that guy with tattoos all over his face who never speaks.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: MDawg
20 years ago my wife and I used to eat at this restaurant in a mall that had an annual RV show and just for kicks we would walk through the RVs that cost over $100,000.
They were giant monsters and they had all these small appliances and small furniture and whistles and bells and we could not imagine living in one of these things for a week let alone full time. And these are really big, how people live in the small ones that are barely bigger than a closet is a mystery to me. Each show is own I guess, the fact that you can drive your house from one town to another does not impress me. I've been all over this country and most places I go to I never want to go back again, I'm very happy where I am leaving the house maybe 2 or 3 times a month. I've seen lots of YouTube videos with decent people living in RV parks surrounded by certified nut jobs. They're always afraid, why you would want to live that way on purpose if you didn't have to. Who's my neighbor this week, a nice guy or that guy with tattoos all over his face who never speaks.
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The small space I do not see the biggest issue with. I have learned to live small. I would not want the hassle of driving the big thing and the 8 gallons to the mile it gets. I'd rather stay at youth hostels.
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The small space I do not see the biggest issue with. I have learned to live small. I would not want the hassle of driving the big thing and the 8 gallons to the mile it gets. I'd rather stay at youth hostels.
I have never stayed at a youth hostel and can't imagine sharing a room with a stranger.
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffman
The small space I do not see the biggest issue with. I have learned to live small. I would not want the hassle of driving the big thing and the 8 gallons to the mile it gets. I'd rather stay at youth hostels.
I have never stayed at a youth hostel and can't imagine sharing a room with a stranger.
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After a drink or two is she still a stranger?
But seriously, who cares what EB thinks about what terapined is doing? Or what I care for that matter.
I’m not taking life advice from a guy proud to leave his house twice a month.
Quote: SOOPOO[
After a drink or two is she still a stranger?
Any woman that would speak with me I considered a potential wife.
Quote: DRichQuote: AZDuffman
The small space I do not see the biggest issue with. I have learned to live small. I would not want the hassle of driving the big thing and the 8 gallons to the mile it gets. I'd rather stay at youth hostels.
I have never stayed at a youth hostel and can't imagine sharing a room with a stranger.
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Did it once to say I did it. Kind of a minimum security prison fantasy camp. You had to be smart about keeping your stuff secure. If I was young and seeing Europe or Asia I would consider it. Good part is you met some people. Bad part was bunking with 4-5 others at night. I have also done the singles cruise thing where they match you up to share a room. The roommate they gave me was not bad. I might have been predisposed to dealing with that as in my management career I had to bunk up with a roommate many times at meetings and conferences. Some I knew a bit some I had never met before.
Quote: SOOPOO
But seriously, who cares what EB thinks about what terapined is doing? Or what I care for that matter.
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But who cares what anybody says about anything on a forum. It's just a social media platform where we blah blah blah because we have nothing better to do. If you take any of it seriously something's wrong with you.
Quote: DRichAny woman that would speak with me I considered a potential wife.
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I'm inclined to agree.
Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOO[
After a drink or two is she still a stranger?
Any woman that would speak with me I considered a potential wife.
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Back when I had the cab company I had the luggage concession for Northwest Airlines at the airport. I got to know some of the airport police and they told me stories about how women would periodically come to their office and report some guy following them around the airport. Apparently all she had done is made eye contact with them or made the grave mistake of smiling at them and that's all it took. They were madly in love and thought they were looking at their future wife. This is before stalking laws and I totally understand why they put those laws in place.
Quote: WizardShag sameach everyone! I pleasantly note we have gone 19 days without a suspension (my penance does not count). Let's honor Passover by behaving ourselves and going another week, at least.
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What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: WizardShag sameach everyone! I pleasantly note we have gone 19 days without a suspension (my penance does not count). Let's honor Passover by behaving ourselves and going another week, at least.
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What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
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I also noticed that Mission has been missing for a long time. Let's hope he isn't in a Coma in ICU somewhere. 😱
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: WizardShag sameach everyone! I pleasantly note we have gone 19 days without a suspension (my penance does not count). Let's honor Passover by behaving ourselves and going another week, at least.
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What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
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His last post here was on March 8th. He's the moderator on the other forum and his last post there was on March 8th. Who knows what's going on.
Quote: EvenBobHis last post here was on March 8th. He's the moderator on the other forum and his last post there was on March 8th. Who knows what's going on.
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He last visited here on April 5. I'll use back channels to check on him.
I've had some conversations with him. I don't want to say more than he would like, but I think I can say that he does intend to pay but feels like now he can *really* take his time. He mentions frequently that this is his own money that he is contributing, thus it is not welching. I have a lot of problems with this and how it works out, but I won't go into it. I think that's all I should sayQuote: 100xOdds
What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
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Quote: odiousgambitI've had some conversations with him. I don't want to say more than he would like, but I think I can say that he does intend to pay but feels like now he can *really* take his time. He mentions frequently that this is his own money that he is contributing, thus it is not welching. I have a lot of problems with this and how it works out, but I won't go into it. I think that's all I should sayQuote: 100xOdds
What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
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So, he's not in a coma in ICU. That's a relief to hear. 😇
Quote: odiousgambitI've had some conversations with him. I don't want to say more than he would like, but I think I can say that he does intend to pay but feels like now he can *really* take his time. He mentions frequently that this is his own money that he is contributing, thus it is not welching. I have a lot of problems with this and how it works out, but I won't go into it. I think that's all I should sayQuote: 100xOdds
What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
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I am still out $405 of my own personal money which I paid to DJChaps (whom Mission owed $480 in winnings and who had a personal situation and urgently needed the money.) I did this to help DJCHaps and to preserve the honor of the forum. So I am the one that Mission owes the money to.
Thus, this money is no longer "Mission's personal money." Its my money, gone from my Paypal account. However, I do admit that I volunteered to do to send DJCHaps the funds he desperately needed, so perhaps I "signed up fo this."
Quote: gordonm888Quote: odiousgambitI've had some conversations with him. I don't want to say more than he would like, but I think I can say that he does intend to pay but feels like now he can *really* take his time. He mentions frequently that this is his own money that he is contributing, thus it is not welching. I have a lot of problems with this and how it works out, but I won't go into it. I think that's all I should sayQuote: 100xOdds
What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
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I am still out $405 of my own personal money which I paid to DJChaps (whom Mission owed $480 in winnings and who had a personal situation and urgently needed the money.) I did this to help DJCHaps and to preserve the honor of the forum. So I am the one that Mission owes the money to.
Thus, this money is no longer "Mission's personal money." Its my money, gone from my Paypal account. However, I do admit that I volunteered to do to send DJCHaps the funds he desperately needed, so perhaps I "signed up fo this."
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If you don’t want to wait for Mission, send me a PM and I’ll send you an Amazon card code.
I just assumed he doesn't have it available right now, he's been very up front about his over all financial situation and that he doesn't care about money.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: odiousgambitI've had some conversations with him. I don't want to say more than he would like, but I think I can say that he does intend to pay but feels like now he can *really* take his time. He mentions frequently that this is his own money that he is contributing, thus it is not welching. I have a lot of problems with this and how it works out, but I won't go into it. I think that's all I should sayQuote: 100xOdds
What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
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I am still out $405 of my own personal money which I paid to DJChaps (whom Mission owed $480 in winnings and who had a personal situation and urgently needed the money.) I did this to help DJCHaps and to preserve the honor of the forum. So I am the one that Mission owes the money to.
Thus, this money is no longer "Mission's personal money." Its my money, gone from my Paypal account. However, I do admit that I volunteered to do to send DJCHaps the funds he desperately needed, so perhaps I "signed up fo this."
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People make fun of me and taunt me for years because I won't make internet bets and this perfectly illustrates the reason I don't do it and it's always the reason I said I don't do it. Because it can turn into a convoluted mess like this and it's just not worth it.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: odiousgambitI've had some conversations with him. I don't want to say more than he would like, but I think I can say that he does intend to pay but feels like now he can *really* take his time. He mentions frequently that this is his own money that he is contributing, thus it is not welching. I have a lot of problems with this and how it works out, but I won't go into it. I think that's all I should sayQuote: 100xOdds
What's going on with Mission?
He's still suspended.
What's this welching on bet thing?
Why hasn't he paid? That doesn't seem like him
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I am still out $405 of my own personal money which I paid to DJChaps (whom Mission owed $480 in winnings and who had a personal situation and urgently needed the money.) I did this to help DJCHaps and to preserve the honor of the forum. So I am the one that Mission owes the money to.
Thus, this money is no longer "Mission's personal money." Its my money, gone from my Paypal account. However, I do admit that I volunteered to do to send DJCHaps the funds he desperately needed, so perhaps I "signed up fo this."
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I am but an observer in this story, but I do hope that should Mission return and run a similar fantasy league in the future, that the endeavour compies with The Wizard's The Ten Commandments of Gambling, especially Commandment numbers 2, 5 and 10. This is for fairness to all participants as well as to preserve the honor and reputation of the forum.
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People make fun of me and taunt me for years because I won't make internet bets and this perfectly illustrates the reason I don't do it and it's always the reason I said I don't do it. Because it can turn into a convoluted mess like this and it's just not worth it.
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You got made fun of because YOU actually offered to make the bets, YOU actually set the terms of the bet, and on at least one occasion you actually posted pictures of the money you were willing to bet, and then when people actually agreed to your terms and took you up on the offer, you reneged.
THAT'S why you got made of.
You thought a good deed would go unpunished?Quote: gordonm888perhaps I "signed up fo this."
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He doesn't understand. He just doesn't get it. I think you are, therefore, right about thisQuote: GialmereI like Mission. Who doesn't? But somehow I don't think he'll be allowed to run any event here involving money ever again. He might have the greatest excuse in the world as to why he has neither payed off yet nor communicated the reason for the delay, but it wouldn't matter. Let's be honest; his credibility is shot.
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Quote: odiousgambitYou thought a good deed would go unpunished?Quote: gordonm888perhaps I "signed up fo this."
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A better example of a good deed going punished would be if Gordon had paid DJ Chaps money when DJ Chaps REALLY needed it and then one day Gordon asks DJ Chaps to loan him money when Gordon REALLY needs it and DJ Chaps refused to return the favor and help out Gordon. 💡Someone in a Casino told me something REALLY similar, loaning people who REALLY need it, and then them refusing to help the same person who helped them before. 💡
Quote: GialmereI like Mission. Who doesn't? But somehow I don't think he'll be allowed to run any event here involving money ever again. He might have the greatest excuse in the world as to why he has neither payed off yet nor communicated the reason for the delay, but it wouldn't matter. Let's be honest; his credibility is shot.
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He's embarrassed because he obviously invested the money in Beanie Babies hoping to double it and he's still waiting. I think his wait might be rather long.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBob
People make fun of me and taunt me for years because I won't make internet bets and this perfectly illustrates the reason I don't do it and it's always the reason I said I don't do it. Because it can turn into a convoluted mess like this and it's just not worth it.
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You got made fun of because YOU actually offered to make the bets, YOU actually set the terms of the bet, and on at least one occasion you actually posted pictures of the money you were willing to bet, and then when people actually agreed to your terms and took you up on the offer, you reneged.
THAT'S why you got made of.
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No it's not. This was an issue long long before that happened. I just came to my senses and backed out of that. Thank God.
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A better example of a good deed going punished would be if Gordon hd paid DJ Chaps money when DJ Chaps REALLY needed it and then one day Gordon asks DJ Chaps to loan him money when Gordon REALLY needs it and DJ Chaps refused to return the favor and help out Gordon. 💡Someone in a Casino told me something REALLY similar, loaning people who REALLY need it, and then them refusing to help the same person who helped the before. 💡
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First, when I was exchanging messages with DJChaps (who I don't know at all) he seemed to be a normal, trustworthy person.
Second, my personal rule is to never loan anyone money if I can't bear losing that money all together. Because, lol, a good fraction of the time, I'm never going to get paid back. I guess it's the same principles we apply to making a wager.
