Can the management please refrain from vandalizing posts?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/8928-casino-chip-of-the-day/244/#post211185
That's really very rude. If you have something to say, you can post or PM. Besides, the link directs me to a blocked thread.
I tried to send you a PM, but you have them blocked. Or you have ME blocked.Quote: Nareed... or PM.
Quote: DocGee, yesterday I thought that DJ and Kathy were teasing with each other, but this morning I guess there is more going on. Here's my summary and an attempt to clear things up here in a thread that I don't think anyone involved in the discussion has blocked.
A few days back, rdw4potus and I had a brief exchange in this thread about my travels and whether I would make it any time soon to Arizona, where his lovely chips had originated. He mentioned that I have other trips planned and need to fit in a trip to WoVCon ]I[ also. I posted (yes, perhaps this got us a little off-topic for a Chip of the Day thread) that I wasn't sure just when WoVCon ]I[ was scheduled, and I hadn't bothered to look up Nareed/Kathy's thread.
There were a few follow-up comments about WoVCon, including DJTB's comment that trying to schedule it concurrent or close to an anticipated focus group meeting might be attractive to some members, even though there is no specific date yet set for that meeting either. After several such posts, DJTB (I think) broke those off into a separate thread. If those were to be the only posts on the topic, it would have been fine with me for them to stay here, but if we need a thread discussing possible joint-scheduling efforts for two get-togethers, then maybe this is a fine time to start one.
Unfortunately, it seems possible that Nareed has DJTB's posts and PMs blocked, though I'm not sure about that, so she could not see what happened to her earlier posts in this thread, could not see the new thread created by DJTB, and could only see an edit by an un-named moderator in her own post. I'm not sure what that says about the potential for an effective thread discussing a WoVCon that Nareed has been trying to coordinate and a focus group that DJTB would like to schedule concurrently.
Anyway, Nareed started another thread discussing "Management" and "vandalizing" of posts. I suspect that she cannot see DJTB's post in that thread. I have been quite pleased that in the past this thread has not been a place for the kind of battles that have arisen in other long threads, so I hope that a little misunderstanding about the date for WoVCon ]I[ doesn't change the environment here.
Quote: NareedLike this:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/8928-casino-chip-of-the-day/244/#post211185
That's really very rude. If you have something to say, you can post or PM. Besides, the link directs me to a blocked thread.
The link doesn't work because of some coding error that happened when JB added auto linking of urls. Because there was no space between the closing color tag and the link, it messes up the auto linking.
Quote: mipletThe link doesn't work because of some coding error that happened when JB added auto linking of urls.
I just tried all of the relevant links that I can find, and they all work for me, including a few in the Casino Chip of the Day thread and each of the links in this thread. I think in this case it's just a matter of Nareed having DJTB blocked, and DJTB editing Nareed's posts.
Quote: GHMost forum software does not allow moderators to be blocked. Why is this one an exception?
I think in this case it is because DJTB is a "secret" (not really so much) moderator. You will note that his name does not appear in green.
Quote: DocI just tried all of the relevant links that I can find, and they all work for me, including a few in the Casino Chip of the Day thread and each of the links in this thread. I think in this case it's just a matter of Nareed having DJTB blocked, and DJTB editing Nareed's posts.
try this link https://wizardofvegas.com/forums/
You'll notice it ends in </span>
Quote: DocJust for completeness, here is a copy of my recent post in the Casino Chip of the Day thread:
Your call: do you want me to answer here, so your chip of the day thread won't be disrupted? Or on the chip thread to inflate its post count? They're both good.
Quote: miplettry this link https://wizardofvegas.com/forums/
You'll notice it ends in </span>
You are correct -- that link does not work. I just meant that all of the links directly involved in this discussion seem to be working for me.
Quote: NareedYour call: do you want me to answer here, so your chip of the day thread won't be disrupted? Or on the chip thread to inflate its post count? They're both good.
While I like the fact that the Casino Chip of the Day thread has been active, that it has a lot of posts, and that you have been supportive of it, I don't think post count is really a big issue in the current discussion. If I try to read between the lines, I get this spidey-tingling feeling that your "answer" has the potential for burning the text off my screen. ;-) If that's the case, then let's see it here in your thread and not over at the Chip of the Day. Speaking of which, does anyone have thoughts/comments about a Magnolia Bluffs casino or chip? That issue seemed to get lost over in the other thread.
Quote: Docf I try to read between the lines, I get this spidey-tingling feeling that your "answer" has the potential for burning the text off my screen. ;-)
Oh, I don't think so. And yet, the forum's been way too intolerant and hostile lately, with little tin gods popping up all over and all that. So I'll just say there's been nothing "unfortunate" in this debacle; not for me.
Quote:Speaking of which, does anyone have thoughts/comments about a Magnolia Bluffs casino or chip? That issue seemed to get lost over in the other thread.
Well, I've found I've very little interest in casinos outside of Vegas. The odds I'll visit any of them are so tiny, you need to make use of quantum mechanics math to figure them out ;)
1 - Yes. I'm a "secret" moderator. I never really liked the secret aspect of it, but respected Mike's decision to create it as such. I tried to work within the confines of it by staying relatively quiet about my status. When Mission was named as a regular moderator, I was tempted to ask Mike if I should also be made regular, but I let it go.
2 - In December, Nareed said something to me that I took as an insult. I suspended her for it, and immediately sent Mike a PM detailing it. I was unsure how long the suspension would last, but in about 24 hours, it was not only lifted, but cancelled - the entry in the suspension discussion list was deleted. I also publicly apologized for over-reacting.
3 - Knowing that the WoVCon ]I[ would be a hot topic, I split off the posts about it when it started to side-track the Chip Of The Day thread. I also added a post to indicate that it was split off.
4 - Nareed ignored my post and responded to Doc's comment about it.
5 - I repeated my post in a second attempt to get that discussion to continue in the split-off thread. I also copied Narred's post to the new thread - although I left the original in place.
6 - Nareed made another post in the Chip thread about WoVCon. Although it hadn't occurred to me that she was blocking my posts, I suspected she was skimming and merely didn't notice my post. To prevent that from happening again, I edited her post to include the comment that the discussion should be moved to the other thread. Nareed took exception to that action, primarily because, apparently, she has my posts blocked and couldn't see what I had done.
7 - It hadn't occurred to my until today to simply send Nareed a PM. But that wouldn't have helped. I DID try to send her a PM this morning in response to this thread, but she has me or PMs blocked.
Bottom line: I do not apologize this time.
I also have no specific desire to schedule the WoVCon. I merely suggested that it be coordinated with the date of the SHFL focus group - assuming that it occurs, and is in May. If anyone else wants to handle the scheduling and details, that's fine by me.
blocked for a year. If you block a member, their
PM's are blocked too. I got off on the wrong foot
with Nareed and he's never forgiven me.
Quote: sodawaterwhy would anyone actually take the time to block anyone else? i mean come on, this is not real life.
+1
Quote: EvenBobNareed has half the Forum blocked, he's had me
blocked for a year. If you block a member, their
PM's are blocked too. I got off on the wrong foot
with Nareed and he's never forgiven me.
Gosh, why'd she block you? You're such a sweet girl:-P
Quote: rdw4potusGosh, why'd she block you? You're such a sweet girl:-P
can anyone explain to me why nareed is referred to as both a man and a woman? is there some sort of inside joke I am missing?
Quote: sodawatercan anyone explain to me why nareed is referred to as both a man and a woman? is there some sort of inside joke I am missing?
My understanding is this is only a "transitional" condition ;)
Quote: sodawatercan anyone explain to me why nareed is referred to as both a man and a woman? is there some sort of inside joke I am missing?
Nareed went through a sex-change process some time ago. "He" joined the forum as a male and identified as such. Some time after we opened here "he" started a discussion about homosexuality, sex-change processes, and who else on the board might be either homosexual/sex-change-process members. This was out of nowhere and a coming-out of sorts. Still "he" took exception to some things EB, myself, and a few other said and blocked us.
Later, and I do not know exactly when, "he" started being referred to as "she." I first remember Wizard calling "him" as "she" and it later stuck.
I have blocked Nareed some time ago for what I saw as offensive comments and if I need to refer I make every effort to not put a gender in my snetences, though as we are mutually blocked this rarely even needs to happen. EB has stated that as Nareed blocked him when Nareed was still identifying as male he identifies Nareed as male.
Hope that clears it up, it is confusing.
EDIT: See EB remarks below. Sorry, Bob, if what I wrote put what your stand was in an incorrect way.
Quote: AZDuffmanNareed went through a sex-change process some time ago..
Nareed says he never had the operation and never
will.
Quote: EvenBobNareed says he never had the operation and never
will.
And you know this how? The same way you knew we'd be inaugurating President Romney?
Quote: SOOPOOAnd you know this how?
He posted it very early on. Somebody asked him and
he said he would never do it. This is what led to our
falling out. I said if you haven't had the operation,
you're not a woman just because you say you are. He
blocked me and hasn't spoken to me since.
Quote: AZDuffmanNareed went through a sex-change process some time ago. "He" joined the forum as a male and identified as such. Some time after we opened here "he" started a discussion about homosexuality, sex-change processes, and who else on the board might be either homosexual/sex-change-process members. This was out of nowhere and a coming-out of sorts. Still "he" took exception to some things EB, myself, and a few other said and blocked us.
Later, and I do not know exactly when, "he" started being referred to as "she." I first remember Wizard calling "him" as "she" and it later stuck.
I have blocked Nareed some time ago for what I saw as offensive comments and if I need to refer I make every effort to not put a gender in my snetences, though as we are mutually blocked this rarely even needs to happen. EB has stated that as Nareed blocked him when Nareed was still identifying as male he identifies Nareed as male.
Hope that clears it up, it is confusing.
EDIT: See EB remarks below. Sorry, Bob, if what I wrote put what your stand was in an incorrect way.
True or not, this answers a lot of questions. It figures.
Just one comment in regard to AZ's response to sodawater's question: Yes, this can get a bit confusing. While Nareed/Kathy has had some conflicts with several forum members, I have found her reasonably easy to get along with both on the forum and in person. What conflict there has been between us has been entirely my fault, as several times I unintentionally referred to her with masculine terms, even though I try to abide by her preferences. Early on, I developed the mental image of member Nareed as a male, and I found it hard as hell to get my mindset changed. I butchered the references several times and apologized for each of the blunders. Part of the issue indubitably arises from the fact that I have never previously known any (openly) transgendered people in my real life. When Nareed finally identified herself with the name "Kathy", I seemed to be better able to get my thinking adjusted.
Quote: iluvdisco33Why is this Nareed character and his/her unnatural biology taking up bandwidth on a gambling forum? The world is full of weirdos of all types and so probably is this forum. To focus on a he/she/it is not productive at all. IMHO.
I don't necessarily agree with or support Nareed's lifestyle choices but considering that Nareed lives in a country in which Machismo is very dominant, I think Nareed deserves some respect; for being open about it.
But yes, I think a more appropriate subforum already exists on WoV; not to mention the new DT site.
Quote: DocWhat conflict there has been between us has been entirely my fault,
I appreciate it. Thanks! But I must admit I took a casual remark too far once....
Anyway, the difference between you and a great many others in this forum is that you're a civilized gentleman. And I appreciate that even more.
I received two PMs from Nareed today. The first was just a test to see if PMs she sends me will go thru. The second was a rather lengthy message which I will not go into here.
I tried to reply to the test message. I got the notice that says, "The recipient you are trying to send a message to has chosen not to accept private messages."
Since I can't send her a private message, I'll respond here (even though I realize she has me blocked): If you want any answers to any of the questions you asked in your PM, ask them again here publicly, and I will answer publicly.
Note that some of the questions have already been answered in my posts in this thread.
Quote: iluvdisco33Why is this Nareed character and his/her unnatural biology taking up bandwidth on a gambling forum? The world is full of weirdos of all types and so probably is this forum. To focus on a he/she/it is not productive at all. IMHO.
This is a gay friendly site and the GLBT Corner was established to accommodate the 3 or 4 gays out of 3326 active members who post here. If a straight person attempts to join in they risk being called a troll, a bully or worse. I try to steer clear of all that.
When I saw the list AcesAndEights compiled, the thing that struck me was that after the first 240 or so accounts, the number of posts/account dropped into the signle digits. I'd be interested in seeing another version of that list, including the age of the account & last login.
Quote: 1BBThis is a gay friendly site and the GLBT Corner was established to accommodate the 3 or 4 gays out of 3326 active members who post here. If a straight person attempts to join in they risk being called a troll, a bully or worse. I try to steer clear of all that.
Everything short of wedding sites should rightfully be gay friendly, so this site is normal. But now I'm confused. What does being "gay" have to do with someone who, according to what info I can gather, doesn't know if they're a man or a woman...or both?
As someone in the wedding industry, it is safe for me to tell you that being gay friendly (or gay UNfriendly) is very important for wedding sites as well. Being neutral is bad.Quote: iluvdisco33Everything short of wedding sites should rightfully be gay friendly, so this site is normal.
Nothing except they tend to share some of the same difficulties in dealing with society and straight people.Quote: iluvdisco33What does being "gay" have to do with someone who, according to what info I can gather, doesn't know if they're a man or a woman...or both?
Quote: GHMaybe, accounts should be set to "expire" if not used within a certain amount of time?
When I saw the list AcesAndEights compiled, the thing that struck me was that after the first 240 or so accounts, the number of posts/account dropped into the signle digits. I'd be interested in seeing another version of that list, including the age of the account & last login.
Can you please put a link?
Thanks
Quote: whatmeCan you please put a link?
Thanks
http://widgetsandshit.com/wovmembers.html
After ranking 783, we start getting into the single digits. But I suspect, if we included age of account and last login, the number of "real" active users is less than 250.
Quote: GHhttp://widgetsandshit.com/wovmembers.html
After ranking 783, we start getting into the single digits. But I suspect, if we included age of account and last login, the number of "real" active users is less than 250.
Active readung and active posters are different things.
Quote: thecesspitActive readung and active posters are different things.
True. That's because an account is required to bookmark threads as they are being read. That's why I suggested a more detailed analysis that takes into consideration the last login and age of the account.
Quote: iluvdisco33Why is this Nareed character and his/her unnatural biology taking up bandwidth on a gambling forum? The world is full of weirdos of all types and so probably is this forum. To focus on a he/she/it is not productive at all. IMHO.
This is disrespectful and probably exceeds the limits of the, "Statler and Waldorf," standard with respect to personal insults. Therefore, I am issuing a three-day Suspension from this Forum as this is the first offense for which you have been suspended, and granted, the insult could have been worse.
Quote: iluvdisco33Why is this Nareed character and his/her unnatural biology taking up bandwidth on a gambling forum? The world is full of weirdos of all types and so probably is this forum. To focus on a he/she/it is not productive at all. IMHO.
Because some people like to be the center of attention.
Quote: AZDuffmanBecause some people like to be the center of attention.
+1 even if it gets us suspended!
Quote: AZDuffmanBecause some people like to be the center of attention.
Few of the posts on this thread are from the person the attention is being paid to.. several are from someone wanting to make a big deal about soneone elses choices in life. I find that interesting...
