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January 10th, 2026 at 2:38:34 PM permalink
I think there should be a Roulette subsection in the Gambling section of the Forum, on the basis that there is already a Craps section which is probably about as popular as Roulette (maybe less popular).

I have already made three posts so far about new roulette side bets I have encountered, and it would be nice if they were all in the same section.

Perhaps there could be a Baccarat subsection too. Baccarat is becoming the most popular table game on Earth (maybe it already is), and always seems to have lots of new side bets for us to explore.

What does everyone else think?
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January 10th, 2026 at 5:19:35 PM permalink
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I think there should be a Roulette subsection in the Gambling section of the Forum, on the basis that there is already a Craps section which is probably about as popular as Roulette (maybe less popular).

I have already made three posts so far about new roulette side bets I have encountered, and it would be nice if they were all in the same section.

Perhaps there could be a Baccarat subsection too. Baccarat is becoming the most popular table game on Earth (maybe it already is), and always seems to have lots of new side bets for us to explore.

What does everyone else think?
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I don't think there is much actual gambling/ap discussion on this forum these days.

If it happens I'll try and help keep it alive, but my guess is that it would die off through inactivity.
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January 10th, 2026 at 5:25:10 PM permalink
Try a roulette thread and see if it grows legs.
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January 10th, 2026 at 8:33:09 PM permalink
Quote: harris

I think there should be a Roulette subsection in the Gambling section of the Forum, on the basis that there is already a Craps section which is probably about as popular as Roulette (maybe less popular).

I have already made three posts so far about new roulette side bets I have encountered, and it would be nice if they were all in the same section.

Perhaps there could be a Baccarat subsection too. Baccarat is becoming the most popular table game on Earth (maybe it already is), and always seems to have lots of new side bets for us to explore.

What does everyone else think?
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There are quite a few structural changes that would make sense for the Gambling section of this forum, your specific suggestion seems very sensible. I haven't noticed Any changes in the organization structure of threads in the nine years I've been here; Mike was apparently not interested in tweaking that structure.

With Mike stepping down as Wizard (and with us all awaiting a replacement Wizard of Odds) I suspect that any future changes are on hold for awhile.
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January 10th, 2026 at 9:00:28 PM permalink
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Quote: harris

I think there should be a Roulette subsection in the Gambling section of the Forum, on the basis that there is already a Craps section which is probably about as popular as Roulette (maybe less popular).

I have already made three posts so far about new roulette side bets I have encountered, and it would be nice if they were all in the same section.

Perhaps there could be a Baccarat subsection too. Baccarat is becoming the most popular table game on Earth (maybe it already is), and always seems to have lots of new side bets for us to explore.

What does everyone else think?
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There are quite a few structural changes that would make sense for the Gambling section of this forum, your specific suggestion seems very sensible. I haven't noticed Any changes in the organization structure of threads in the nine years I've been here; Mike was apparently not interested in tweaking that structure.

With Mike stepping down as Wizard (and with us all awaiting a replacement Wizard of Odds) I suspect that any future changes are on hold for awhile.
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I've seen a surprising number of wizards in Vegas. Last year I saw a fellow in a blue wizard suit cycling on the 215 Trail in Summerlin. At first I thought it might be our Wizard, whom I would not be surprised to find owns a blue wizard suit, but he probably rides in something else.

Wizards on the Strip, wizards Downtown, and I've seen wizards sitting at bars. I figure it's about as common as mermaids in the pools. Perhaps someone here with elite math knowledge can quiz these local wizards, and see if any of them have what it takes to be THE Wizard of Vegas. Meanwhile I will take a closer look at the mermaids.
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January 10th, 2026 at 11:35:46 PM permalink
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Baccarat might have some merit, simply due to popularity.
The problem comes when most of the discussion is about identifying patterns on the scorecard. That seems like straight BS, which already has more space dedicated than is probably deserved.

The sidebets often seemed like footnotes to me. A novel way to avoid commission appears (3 card banker 6 win? Really?), and then a sidebet appears to allow the sucker punter to lose 6 times faster.

(I'm cynical, sure, but if there are a significant number of actual discussions, then yes, I will advocate for a new heading. Until then, Table Games will probably have to make do.)
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January 11th, 2026 at 5:22:59 AM permalink
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Baccarat might have some merit, simply due to popularity.
The problem comes when most of the discussion is about identifying patterns on the scorecard. That seems like straight BS, which already has more space dedicated than is probably deserved.

The sidebets often seemed like footnotes to me. A novel way to avoid commission appears (3 card banker 6 win? Really?), and then a sidebet appears to allow the sucker punter to lose 6 times faster.

(I'm cynical, sure, but if there are a significant number of actual discussions, then yes, I will advocate for a new heading. Until then, Table Games will probably have to make do.)
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The overall structure is badly dysfunctional. The Gambling, Off-topic and Forum Info sections are the only ones that are actively used (also Questions and Answers). There is very little use of the other sections: Las Vegas Casinos, Gaming Business and Las Vegas Attractions.

The Gaming section, IMO, should have sections on Baccarat, Roulette and Poker. The recent explosion in sports gambling should motivate a rethinking of how those discussions are organized. Right now its damnably difficult to locate threads on various sub-topics. The subtopic 'Math' in the 'Questions and Answers' section could beneficially be elevated to a section
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January 11th, 2026 at 6:24:18 AM permalink
I don't bother looking through the sections any more. I just read whatever shows up in "recent threads".
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January 11th, 2026 at 7:49:59 AM permalink
Given that some subsections haven't had a new post since 2022, perhaps cleaning them out would make room for newer sections.
Make a petition to whoever takes over the top spot whenever that happens.
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January 11th, 2026 at 10:32:27 PM permalink
I could do with a Cruise Casinos section; it's a decently sized field, and there's no section that really allows for it. Gambling Outside Vegas is a reasonable place for it, but all those subsections are about specific regions of the world; Gaming Businesses/Other would also work, if not for the 'Discussions about Las Vegas gaming businesses' bit. The mood in here seems to have shifted over the last decade though, so not really sure how good of a fit it'd be here nowadays though.
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January 12th, 2026 at 5:47:31 AM permalink
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I could do with a Cruise Casinos section; it's a decently sized field, and there's no section that really allows for it. Gambling Outside Vegas is a reasonable place for it, but all those subsections are about specific regions of the world; Gaming Businesses/Other would also work, if not for the 'Discussions about Las Vegas gaming businesses' bit. The mood in here seems to have shifted over the last decade though, so not really sure how good of a fit it'd be here nowadays though.
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I think that 'Cruise Casinos' is an excellent idea for a subsection. Its brilliant.
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January 13th, 2026 at 2:27:41 AM permalink
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I could do with a Cruise Casinos section; it's a decently sized field, and there's no section that really allows for it. Gambling Outside Vegas is a reasonable place for it, but all those subsections are about specific regions of the world; Gaming Businesses/Other would also work, if not for the 'Discussions about Las Vegas gaming businesses' bit. The mood in here seems to have shifted over the last decade though, so not really sure how good of a fit it'd be here nowadays though.
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I think that 'Cruise Casinos' is an excellent idea for a subsection. Its brilliant.
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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling-outside-vegas/cruise-ships/

I expect we'll be shuffling old cruise reports and the like into the new heading as we find them.

edit: I envision this to be primarily for discussions about gambling, and the player experience on cruise ships. I don't predict a significant demand to discuss the cruise ship casino businesses, like Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and NCL, which is why a parallel subheading under Gaming Business was not created.
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January 21st, 2026 at 9:38:00 PM permalink
What subsection of "Gambling outside Vegas" would Minnesota fall under? Western U.S., Eastern U.S., or Mississippi?

May I suggest there be a Midwestern section? Chicagoland is an increasingly large casino market. This could also include places like Deadwood.
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January 21st, 2026 at 11:23:33 PM permalink
Your idea is a solid idea but in theory roulette is just players choosing whether the ball will land on a certain number, will the color be green, red, or black, whether it will be 1-12, 13-24, 25-36, whether it will be 1-18 or 19-36, choosing the bottom, and the 2:1 section it will land on. Like another Poster said, it's best to just create your own Roulette Thread. 💡 As a side note, I know you are fairly new but there is already a Roulette Thread by Evenbob but that one seems to have fallen into the abyss lately. So, just create your own Roulette Thread as Roulette Threads are not abundant here and won't wear out their welcome. 😀
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January 22nd, 2026 at 12:25:40 AM permalink
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What subsection of "Gambling outside Vegas" would Minnesota fall under? Western U.S., Eastern U.S., or Mississippi?

May I suggest there be a Midwestern section? Chicagoland is an increasingly large casino market. This could also include places like Deadwood.
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Deadwood is practically touching The Center of the Nation when you zoom out the map, although I'd plant it squarely in the Western U.S. (Deadwood is wildly different than Chicagoland, IMO. At first glance, it appears to have much more in common with Black Hawk, Colorado.)

I haven't seen much talk about Chicagoland, Northern Indiana, or Michigan, much less Oklahoma, Washington, or Montana.

I prefer to have threads that need a subsection created for them, rather than subsections sitting empty.
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January 22nd, 2026 at 7:30:38 AM permalink
Okay, I was just asking because I had a question about gambling in Minnesota. I’ll just put it in Western USA
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February 1st, 2026 at 1:03:59 PM permalink
I would like to ask for a SOCIAL GAMING directory in the GAMBLING section.

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February 2nd, 2026 at 4:55:37 AM permalink
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I would like to ask for a SOCIAL GAMING directory in the GAMBLING section.

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Okay, I'll bite. Define what you mean here by social gaming. Are these non-casino games that are played at home?
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February 4th, 2026 at 8:12:27 AM permalink
No, they are casino games played at home with option to buy tokens, hats, faces, glasses , etc.

Vegas world and Govornor of Poker 3 are two I've tried... Zynga might still be around, There are other sites that also host non casino games, these websites can be omitted.
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February 4th, 2026 at 9:55:31 AM permalink
I used to waste a lot of time on MyVegas.

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February 13th, 2026 at 3:42:36 PM permalink
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No, they are casino games played at home with option to buy tokens, hats, faces, glasses , etc.

Vegas world and Govornor of Poker 3 are two I've tried... Zynga might still be around, There are other sites that also host non casino games, these websites can be omitted.
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