Big Bonus Baccarat

Hello, at Bicycle Casino in the Los Angeles area they are running a version of baccarat called Big Bonus Baccarat.

I would like to know if it is possible for analysis to be done on this variant.

The base is the same as EZ-Baccarat and overall it is similar to Golden Frog Baccarat.

The side bets are as follows:
- Phoenix: same as Dragon 7
- Tiger: same as Panda 8
- BBQ: wins when a two card 7 beats a two card 6(either side can win). Pays 50 to 1.
- Cold BBQ: wins when any 7 beats any 6(again, either side can win). Pays 22 to 1.
- Natural Zero: wins when after the first 4 cards are dealt, player and banker both have a score of 0. Pays 40 to 1.
- Tie 01: wins when after all 6 cards are dealt, player and banker tie with a score of either 0 or 1. Pays 90 to 1.
- Win 4: wins when either side wins with a score of 4 or less. Pays 8 to 1.

I would love to know the house edge for the new side bets.
I am also curious if the Natural Zero(and to some extent the Tie 01) is vulnerable to card counting.

I was not sure where to post this so if anyone can point me in a better direction I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

It's been 20 years since I was out there but if California card rules are still the same all wagers require a "fee" to pay.

It was something like $1 per $1-100 which was horrible because it meant wagering $5 meant a 20% vig (a $5 wager cost $6 while a $99 only cost 1% ($99 wager cost $100).

And the cost was win OR lose. So a $5 wager either you lost $6 or won $4 ($5-$1 fee).

This situation pretty much kills any counting opportunities.

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It's been 20 years since I was out there but if California card rules are still the same all wagers require a "fee" to pay.

It was something like $1 per $1-100 which was horrible because it meant wagering $5 meant a 20% vig (a $5 wager cost $6 while a $99 only cost 1% ($99 wager cost $100).

And the cost was win OR lose. So a $5 wager either you lost $6 or won $4 ($5-$1 fee).

This situation pretty much kills any counting opportunities.
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I played at Commerce and Hustler this past February. At both of those, the corporation paid the fee rather than the players. This was only on Baccarat. All other games, the players paid the fee.

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The side bets are as follows:
- Phoenix: same as Dragon 7
- Tiger: same as Panda 8
- BBQ: wins when a two card 7 beats a two card 6(either side can win). Pays 50 to 1.
- Cold BBQ: wins when any 7 beats any 6(again, either side can win). Pays 22 to 1.
- Natural Zero: wins when after the first 4 cards are dealt, player and banker both have a score of 0. Pays 40 to 1.
- Tie 01: wins when after all 6 cards are dealt, player and banker tie with a score of either 0 or 1. Pays 90 to 1.
- Win 4: wins when either side wins with a score of 4 or less. Pays 8 to 1.
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I'd like to know how they crammed all those side bets onto a baccarat table. Especially a California table, which tends to have multiple spots for piggybacking.

At Bicycle, players only pay collection on Fortune Pai Gow and Tiles. All other games are collection free.

The side bets are arranged in two rows of four, placed above the banker line. There are 7 side bets and the house progressive bet in the 8th spot.

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At Bicycle, players only pay collection on Fortune Pai Gow and Tiles. All other games are collection free.

The side bets are arranged in two rows of four, placed above the banker line. There are 7 side bets and the house progressive bet in the 8th spot.
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How about Tie? That makes nine bonuses.