I want to quit smoking but I really don't
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I've used the patch, it's the only thing which has ever stopped the "smoke now" alarms from going off so much. I was doing really good years ago, before I started going allergic with patch because of a painful, rash. I used the cheap ones, doesn't matter now, but the better ones might not be as bad. That's what I buy. I have rubbed them a long time ago when it worked the best, I will have to remember to do that and put them on the other side of my body so I can easier use my right hand to do it.Quote: AxelWolfIf you haven't done the patch before.
Be prepaid for some interesting bat sh*t crazy colorful dreams, ones you will likely never forget. 21mg might kick your ass at first. possible Fatigue, dizziness, light headedness, slight nauseousness. It might also burn your skin(suck it up, it's not that bad). If you are really harry, I hope you enjoy a good waxing.
Don't be cheap and buy a cheap brand, they will keep falling off. Seriously, use alcohol or something and clean the area real good before you put it on. If you sweat a lot you will have to figure out how to keep it from coming off. Whatever the recommended time is, be prepared to do each step longer perhaps 2x the recommend time, the last step even longer if need be.
DON'T SMOKE THEM..... cus they are hard to light. Refrain from putting them on your balls, no matter how tempting that might be (-;
Rubbing the patch hard during the 2nd step 14mg when you have a craving seems to help calm the craving.
Don't put the lowest step on as routine after the fist 5 days, only do it if you start craving a cig. Eventually you will just forget to put a new patch on when you wake up, just leave the old one on and rub it from time to time if need be, at some point you will realize you don't really need one. If you do get a sudden craving and you are about to smoke just tell yourselve you will wait 10 min. You will probably forget about it during that time for a while, then just do that over and over.
Keep yourselves busy as much as possible during this time.
You might have to do the patches a few times before it works.
I know people who took Chantix and wellbutrin and that did the trick for them. <<<Sounds scary to me.
Don't try to sue me if you end up in the ER, I'm not a licensed doctor(HOWEVER, I AM A LICENSED DRIVER, that should be enough).
NVM.Quote: onenickelmiracleI am going to keep the war going, the comments today are motivating me. I'm going to just remember to think of all the ways and motivations I've had and remember to make it through the seconds, minutes, hours and days. I'll miss them driving late at night especially, miss the coffee addiction which warded off heartburn and gas. I may have mentioned this, nicotine helps break down caffeine in the body faster. When you smoke, the caffeine gets flushed through faster, so you can drink more than a non-smoker. A lot of coffee for whatever reason works to eliminate heartburn before it starts. My current diet of food is going to get me. I can't remember the science, a little coffee does damage, a lot prevents it. My guess, you need to drink 8 cup of coffee a day to get this benefit.
I don't want to put any un-motivated thoughts in your head.
Just keep trying. It can't ever happen unless you try.
Good luck.
I've done this with pop before and it's helped immensely. Used to drink six cans a day at my worst and got down to nothing. Then went to one a day, two then three. I've decided to go back down except on long work days.
For me, it looked like this:
Six cans a day for a week.
Five cans a day for a week.
Four cans a day for a week. Etc.
Much less likely to get hit with brutal withdrawal symptoms and it's less of a shock to your system.
See, the thing about quitting this shit is, you only have to quit 15 minutes at a time. You don't have to quit for a week, or a month or a year. You only have to quit for 15 **** minutes. You can do that, right? You've done that in airports and other places and it wasn't a big deal. So just quit for 15 minutes, fight this monster in smaller increments. If you have to, just quit for 5 minutes at a time. You can almost hold your breath for 5 minutes. Just fight it a little bit at at time.Quote: onenickelmiracleI am going to keep the war going, the comments today are motivating me. I'm going to just remember to think of all the ways and motivations I've had and remember to make it through the seconds, minutes, hours and days. I'll miss them driving late at night especially, miss the coffee addiction which warded off heartburn and gas. I may have mentioned this, nicotine helps break down caffeine in the body faster. When you smoke, the caffeine gets flushed through faster, so you can drink more than a non-smoker. A lot of coffee for whatever reason works to eliminate heartburn before it starts. My current diet of food is going to get me. I can't remember the science, a little coffee does damage, a lot prevents it. My guess, you need to drink 8 cup of coffee a day to get this benefit.
It's also easier if you don't get up in the morning and "just have one" or quit at noon or some such. When you wake up in the morning, you already have 5-8 hours without a fix. You already have quit for 5-8 hours.
Withdrawals comes in waves, like standing on a beach and the waves lap, lap, lap on your feet. And about every 7th wave is a big yucky "flush" that about knocks you down, but it only lasts a really short time. It won't be like that the rest of your life, just a few minutes, then the tide will pull that wave back out, and the next 7th wave doesn't come in as far.
Then after you recognize that the fight is only 15 minutes at a time, build it up to an hour. One hour at a time, you can do that, you've already done it, several times. And you've noticed some of your other senses are becoming stronger, you can smell better, food is better. You can breathe deeper, and hold it longer. You can do things without having to plan for a nicotine escape.
When you've been free for a couple months, you will glance at the car next to you and see some poor sob, smoking, and recognize what that suffering addict is going through.
And at some point it occurs to you, that an addict isn't taking the next hit because he likes his doc [drug of choice] he is taking the next fix, so he doesn't get sick.
My contention is, it isn't the downwinders or the family's that suffer the most, and hate addictive substances the worst, but it is the addicts themselves that hate their doc, for having so much control over their lives.
Nobody hates opiods worse, than an addict that has had a relapse.
You might consider keeping a journal of this coming pilgrimage? They are fun to go back and read.
Oh, I almost forgot, eventually you get to "one day at a time". And that's how we all live.
Not for nothin', but I found weaning to be counterproductive. "The clock" became another trigger. Instead of the random urge to use, I was now voluntarily putting it my own mind, forcing myself to think about it. As petro said, it comes in waves. And instead of living in that time in the trough, I sat and waited and counted down to the next wave.
Just food for thought.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI am going to keep the war going, the comments today are motivating me. I'm going to just remember to think of all the ways and motivations I've had and remember to make it through the seconds, minutes, hours and days. I'll miss them driving late at night especially, miss the coffee addiction which warded off heartburn and gas. I may have mentioned this, nicotine helps break down caffeine in the body faster. When you smoke, the caffeine gets flushed through faster, so you can drink more than a non-smoker. A lot of coffee for whatever reason works to eliminate heartburn before it starts. My current diet of food is going to get me. I can't remember the science, a little coffee does damage, a lot prevents it. My guess, you need to drink 8 cup of coffee a day to get this benefit.
Uh, it seems that you may potentially end up addicted to coffee. :/
Quote: petroglyphThen after you recognize that the fight is only 15 minutes at a time, build it up to an hour.
Mental strategies are interesting, and can completely flip your outlook in some cases.
On a school trip in high school we went to Six Flags over Georgia, and a girl I was with was scared of rollercoasters. I remember managing to convince her that her feeling of fear was actually excitement. And excitement was fun, not scary. After that, she rode the coaster 8 times with me, and in fact wanted to ride it the last 2 times even though I was ready to move on. Somehow, got her perception totally flipped.
Nobody thinks that way, obviously these substitutes aren't as desirable as something bad for you. Shouldn't be like this, but the nicotine patch acts like a sedative sometimes, I just stayed in bed a very long time. I am sleep deprived, so could probably use the rest. I will probably keep it up even though I'm really tempted right now to go find a smoke. I had this finished a month or two ago and had quit a couple weeks, sucks it fell apart.Quote: NathanFind something HEALTHY to replace the Cigarettes, that won't become as addictive and life threatening as Cigarettes, try something like Yoga, jogging, playing with animals in the park, swimming, biking, etc. :)
If you want to quit, can’t you just stop smoking? What happens to your body when you stop? Is it just like 2-3 crappy days? Or is it like a month of being miserable?
It's very emotional, a lot of times feels like a lot of feelings and thoughts are pushed away when I'm smoking, when I quit, I have to face my regrets and memories. It's not that bad, but it's not pleasant. It's more about the mind than the body, the body isn't really affected. It's more like going to the same gas station for 20 years, but then you can't anymore because of some stupid reason. You pass it and want to stop in and chat, but you have to stay away, and you are driving in a circle, and keep passing that gas station. Eventually your circle gets bigger and you don't pass it as often, that's the goal. It's all mental, you have to change all your thoughts, people say it's in the mind, but it's more complicated than that, your mind has to change well beyond just saying you won't do something, because if your mind doesn't believe the reasons you won't do something, you're going to do it.Quote: FinsRuleI don’t really know how this works.
If you want to quit, can’t you just stop smoking? What happens to your body when you stop? Is it just like 2-3 crappy days? Or is it like a month of being miserable?
Quote: onenickelmiracleI fell off the wagon, I really don't want to quit yet.
At least you are being honest. :) But just think of all the ways your life will be better if you quit. Healthier body, longer life expectancy, more money in your pocket. :)
The non-smoker version of myself is much better, feels better, more motivated, I don't know why I give up and give in. I want to try again but not now. I have a feeling I havr to do it without anyine knowing for it to work and I have to lie about it while I'm quitting for some time.Quote: NathanAt least you are being honest. :) But just think of all the ways your life will be better if you quit. Healthier body, longer life expectancy, more money in your pocket. :)
I'm so nauseous today, there is so much nicotine in my blood from the patch.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI have just made up my mind, I will never quit smoking, might as well face it. I'm not going to quit now, I'm not going to quit tomorrow.
Quit being a quitter. You have to want it.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI have just made up my mind, I will never quit smoking, might as well face it. I'm not going to quit now, I'm not going to quit tomorrow.
Have you ever checked for a smoking cessation group in your area? Some people do better with other people trying to do the same thing.
I’m sure there’s an easy blood test that can confirm the results.
$1000
That’ll get you to quit.
A million wouldn't probably work. Some people like torturing themselves. When the time is right, I will quit if it comes. I probably need to get my mind into it. OTH, it hurts me to even admit I shouldn't quit now, procrastinating doesn't sound right even though it's really planning. I am ashamed I light those things up as much as I love them and love overdoing it. It's not a logical thing, it's an emotional thing smoking is. So, no, I don't want to bet. I'd lose.Quote: FinsRuleYou should make a bet with someone on this forum that you can quit. I’m sure someone will take it.
I’m sure there’s an easy blood test that can confirm the results.
$1000
That’ll get you to quit.
I would give up anything (that wasn’t damaging to my health) for a year for 100k.
I'm sure they cost me $100,000 one way or another( lost life, lost productivity. actual cost). Well I wish I could quit already so I d be an idiot to not take a free roll. To be honest as a bet, a smoke could be lit by accident.Quote: FinsRuleIf someone offered you 100k to not smoke a cigarette for a year, you couldn’t make it????
I would give up anything (that wasn’t damaging to my health) for a year for 100k.
I'm really close to having today be the last. I feel terrible because of stress I've become a Chinese factory, forget the chimney. They make me sick and disrupt my life. Well see.
That's one benefit that is also a con, staying awake. So.etimes you want to stay up no matter what.
Quote: onenickelmiracleA million wouldn't probably work. Some people like torturing themselves. When the time is right, I will quit if it comes. I probably need to get my mind into it. OTH, it hurts me to even admit I shouldn't quit now, procrastinating doesn't sound right even though it's really planning. I am ashamed I light those things up as much as I love them and love overdoing it. It's not a logical thing, it's an emotional thing smoking is. So, no, I don't want to bet. I'd lose.
Take $1000 and put it in your pocket. Promise yourself you will give a random stranger $100 the next cigarette you smoke. Double the amount each time, and pay off when you decide you want the cigarette.
Focus on putting heavy metals into my bloodstream and lowering my oxygen levels with intermittent carbon monoxide, causing mitochondrial injury. Focus on insecticide inhalation.
Focus on the social aspects: if you really don't know how to chat up the girl on the next bar stool, sharing nicotine delivery devices and their dollar cost is not going to cure your social deficits.
There is no advantage to smoking and no benefit to deferring your decisions or actions.
Its like driving drunk... the thing to do is pull off the road and stop driving, not get a patch or make a resolution.
You started smoking due to social and advertising factors, not some 'need'.
Sure high nicotine use is common in schizophrenics and perhaps gamblers but it is not controlling; it is still a choice.
Procrastination is a label others may have applied and that you may have adopted in the past,there is no reason to continue to think of it as procrastination. Do you have cuts and bruises all over your face because you procrastinate about opening a glass door before walking thru it???? get real.Quote: onenickelmiracleprocrastinating doesn't sound right even though it's really planning.
Lets see, today I weigh 215 pounds. I have already lost about 20 pounds since the end of January, because I have been smoking a lot, not eating regularly, exercising a lot, and not sleeping much. Not much will change besides I'll be not smoking at all, will probably being eating a little more, and sleeping better. I will also not be resting so much while at home, because I will be doing more regular cleaning and fixing up around the house instead of plopping down smoking and killing time.
I will be the judge on all matters and my decisions will be final and I reserve all rights. Started an hour early, nothing to complain about.
Three hours later, update, going well, getting some stuff done. I don't know why there aren't more people thinking about how they are just two completely people as smokers and non-smokers, guess I go to the extremes.
Quote: jmillsI smoked for 18 years, tried to quit several times cold turkey, but I have no willpower. Chantix worked for me beautifully. I only took it for three weeks. Not only did the urge go away, but my two attempts at smoking again nearly made me vomit. It's been ten years now since I've smoked.
So, give up trying to get the best organizing scheme and just go for one that works reasonably well,Quote: onenickelmiracle. . . because I'm overwhelmed by the thoughts about how to best organize things . . "
I don't take anything but Motrin that messes with my brain. There are a lot of side effects, I'm afraid of the hidden cost this little genie makes you pay.Quote: TankoI you really want to quit, why not try Chantix, as jmills did, so successfully?
I know. Mountain is really a mole hill. I pick up a little here and there. Wish I had a house keeper and a butler and a handy man, I really need them.Quote: FleaStiffSo, give up trying to get the best organizing scheme and just go for one that works reasonably well,
Quote: onenickelmiracleI know. Mountain is really a mole hill. I pick up a little here and there. Wish I had a house keeper and a butler and a handy man, I really need them.
Get yourself three ugly baseball hats. Label them M, B, and H. Make a list of weekly task and divide them by four. Now divide each of those list by whether they should be done by your house keeper, your butler or your handyman. Pretty easy, even the laziest can do this. Now take the rest of the day off. You've earned it.
Tomorrow, put on the hat marked M and do the daily chore for the housekeeper. Don't take off the hat until you are done. Rinse and repeat with hats B and H. When you are.done, admire your work, take in how easy it was and take the next day off. You earned it.
Incentives work. Reward yourself for the little accomplishments, and the big ones will fall into place. You won't always need ridiculous props like hats and lists to do things, but they can be very helpful in establishing patterns. Reward yourself for a job well done. I don't like house work so the best reward I know of is a day without it. Thus, a day off for doing it.
I don't eat until my dog is walked , I've taken my pills and my bed is made. Four very important things that I've incorporated into a simple procedure. I like to eat, but I can't until those three things are done. Maybe I will add a fourth- no computer until yesterday's dishes are done and put away.
Some people have natural discipline. I don't. It's a struggle and a work in progress.
What works for me may not work for you, but something will work. You just have to try until you find it. Maybe doing half the work each day, but doing some everyday works for you. Maybe Pizza is your motivation. Maybe it's a movie.
I'm amazed how many people use the carrot or stick method on their kids or employees but never think to use it on themselves. They beat themselves up for their failures but never reward their own small victories.
That's too much fuss.Quote: billryanGet yourself three ugly baseball hats. Label them M, B, and H. Make a list of weekly task and divide them by four. Now divide each of those list by whether they should be done by your house keeper, your butler or your handyman. Pretty easy, even the laziest can do this. Now take the rest of the day off. You've earned it.
Tomorrow, put on the hat marked M and do the daily chore for the housekeeper. Don't take off the hat until you are done. Rinse and repeat with hats B and H. When you are.done, admire your work, take in how easy it was and take the next day off. You earned it.
Incentives work. Reward yourself for the little accomplishments, and the big ones will fall into place. You won't always need ridiculous props like hats and lists to do things, but they can be very helpful in establishing patterns. Reward yourself for a job well done. I don't like house work so the best reward I know of is a day without it. Thus, a day off for doing it.
I don't eat until my dog is walked , I've taken my pills and my bed is made. Four very important things that I've incorporated into a simple procedure. I like to eat, but I can't until those three things are done. Maybe I will add a fourth- no computer until yesterday's dishes are done and put away.
Some people have natural discipline. I don't. It's a struggle and a work in progress.
What works for me may not work for you, but something will work. You just have to try until you find it. Maybe doing half the work each day, but doing some everyday works for you. Maybe Pizza is your motivation. Maybe it's a movie.
I'm amazed how many people use the carrot or stick method on their kids or employees but never think to use it on themselves. They beat themselves up for their failures but never reward their own small victories.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI don't take anything but Motrin that messes with my brain. There are a lot of side effects, I'm afraid of the hidden cost this little genie makes you pay.
Nicotine messes with your brain too (obviously)
Quote: FinsRuleNicotine messes with your brain too (obviously)
It is ironic that he worries about potential problems for his brain but not the various proven poisons he is ingesting.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI don't take anything but Motrin that messes with my brain. There are a lot of side effects, I'm afraid of the hidden cost this little genie makes you pay.
The black box warning about suicide was removed after studies showed there really was not higher risk with Chantix. The only side effect I had was some extremely vivid dreams, which were pretty enjoyable.
The first day is always the hardest and if you give in, the easier it will be to give in the next time and the sooner you will unless you're motivated and determined to break your records of the past and surpass them. Each moment is tough, where does it go wrong when it goes wrong? It's the thought that you can just do what you want and just quit later again, then the action on it. If you believe you should not smoke because things will go out of control, then you won't. I really want the physical health improvements from quitting in trade for the emotional benefits.Quote: onenickelmiracleOk, I kind of was out all night, woke up after midnight, and smoked because I thought I might as well. It's been a few hours now, I'm going to get ready to start with phase 1 quitting smoking pretty soon. One hundred days from now is July 22nd, this is my goal to not smoke a cigarette until. I will pledge to the forum, $56. For every day I don't smoke, I will take $2 away from the pledge. I will not count any cigarette smoked by accident, that is a possibility, if I had a smoke and lighter in my hand somehow, I could smoke it without even realizing it. The clock will start at 6 am. The money I might owe, I will donate to a charity of my choice.
Lets see, today I weigh 215 pounds. I have already lost about 20 pounds since the end of January, because I have been smoking a lot, not eating regularly, exercising a lot, and not sleeping much. Not much will change besides I'll be not smoking at all, will probably being eating a little more, and sleeping better. I will also not be resting so much while at home, because I will be doing more regular cleaning and fixing up around the house instead of plopping down smoking and killing time.
I will be the judge on all matters and my decisions will be final and I reserve all rights. Started an hour early, nothing to complain about.
LOL.Quote: FinsRuleNicotine messes with your brain too (obviously)
I dont need no stinking patches. I feel this, it does need to be done cold turkey. Tomorrow it's just mints and losing my temper. I'm cutting the process shorr, might just smoke a cigarette without lighting it if I really need to.Quote: onenickelmiracleThe first day is always the hardest and if you give in, the easier it will be to give in the next time and the sooner you will unless you're motivated and determined to break your records of the past and surpass them. Each moment is tough, where does it go wrong when it goes wrong? It's the thought that you can just do what you want and just quit later again, then the action on it. If you believe you should not smoke because things will go out of control, then you won't. I really want the physical health improvements from quitting in trade for the emotional benefits.
The physical part of the addiction only lasts 3 days, after that it's all mental.Quote: onenickelmiracleI dont need no stinking patches. I feel this, it does need to be done cold turkey. Tomorrow it's just mints and losing my temper. I'm cutting the process shorr, might just smoke a cigarette without lighting it if I really need to.
I remember when I smoked like a lab rat, sometimes I would reach for a cigarette and a lighter only to find I already had one burning in my hand. lol
It's great to be able to look back after 3 days and tell yourself, yeah I'm really doing this. And after a week you really got something to be proud of, even if the cigs still kill ya. At least you won't die a slave to the bastards.
I'm not buying that.Quote: petroglyphThe physical part of the addiction only lasts 3 days, after that it's all mental.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm not buying that.
I would put it more at like 3 weeks.
https://www.webmd.com/smoking.../qa/how-long-does-nicotine-stay-in-your-system
Generally, nicotine leaves your blood 1-3 days after you stop using tobacco, and cotinine (something your body makes after nicotine enters it) will be gone after 1-10 days. Neither will show up in your urine after 3-4 days.
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