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90crapsplayer66
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January 25th, 2018 at 9:21:52 PM permalink
This is my first night on this website. I'm having trouble locating where I go to ask a question. I'm not sure I'm at the right place now, but I'll ask the two part question anyway.

When I'm playing the Don't Pass bar along with making Place Bets, can I leave my Don't Pass bet off on the Come Out roll, until a point is established, if another shooter is shooting?

When there is another shooter shooting, how is the amount I can bet on the D/P bar determined (not making a Lay bet, just stacking)?

During the game can I increase or regress my D/P bet? Can I take my D/P bet down?

Thanks for your help!

Dick
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January 25th, 2018 at 9:39:41 PM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

This is my first night on this website. I'm having trouble locating where I go to ask a question. I'm not sure I'm at the right place now, but I'll ask the two part question anyway.

When I'm playing the Don't Pass bar along with making Place Bets, can I leave my Don't Pass bet off on the Come Out roll, until a point is established, if another shooter is shooting?

When there is another shooter shooting, how is the amount I can bet on the D/P bar determined (not making a Lay bet, just stacking)?

During the game can I increase or regress my D/P bet? Can I take my D/P bet down?

Thanks for your help!

Dick


Welcome to the board Dick!

DP bets are contract bets and cannot be called “off”, nor taken down until resolved.

You cannot add to your DP bet once a point is established since you now have a positive edge. For the same reason, I don’t know why you would want to reduce your DP bet after the point is established, but I bet the casino would be happy to oblige if you asked.

The max DP bet is the same as the Pass Line, regardless of who is shooting.
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January 25th, 2018 at 9:49:17 PM permalink
I'll just chime in to mention that it's not called the "Don't Pass bar".

The layout reads as "Don't Pass; Bar 12" (since 12 is a push) with the 12 being illustrated as both dice showing a 6.
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January 25th, 2018 at 9:59:46 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Welcome to the board Dick!

DP bets are contract bets and cannot be called “off”, nor taken down until resolved.



The player has the advantage at that point, you said so yourself. The only time I've ever seen someone attempt it, that person was allowed to take it down after a point was established. He didn't like the point because it was a six...lol
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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January 25th, 2018 at 10:08:03 PM permalink
Thanks for the information. I'm fairly new to Craps and do appreciate your feedback.
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January 25th, 2018 at 10:20:52 PM permalink
Thanks for your response.
You said "The max D/P bet is the same formula as for the Pass Line bet." So, 3 times, 4 times, or 5 time the Pass Line or Don't Pass bet. Sounds like the only way to increase my Don't Pass bet is by laying odds.
Makes sense.
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January 25th, 2018 at 10:24:19 PM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

Thanks for your response.
You said "The max D/P bet is the same formula as for the Pass Line bet." So, 3 times, 4 times, or 5 time the Pass Line or Don't Pass bet. Sounds like the only way to increase my Don't Pass bet is by laying odds.
Makes sense.



Minor nitpick, but keep in mind that the odds are technically a separate bet. The DP has a House Edge that works against you whereas the odds bet does not. I believe the Max DP Odds are different than Pass Line. In the case of 3x/4x/5x, you can Lay Odds to enough of an extent that you would win the amount of odds that you would take on the Pass Line were you playing that.

For example, on a $10 bet with 3/4/5x, a player playing the Pass Line could Take Odds of $30 to win $60. Conversely, a Don't Bettor Laying Odds would be allowed (as far as what I have ever witnessed and heard) to Lay $60 to win $30 on the Odds bet.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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January 25th, 2018 at 11:06:04 PM permalink
dp bets can be taken down whenever you want...on a 3/4/5 game the max layed is always 6 times
get second you pig
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January 25th, 2018 at 11:12:19 PM permalink
Mission 146,
Your explanation sounds right to me, from all the youtube videos I've watched. My hope was that I could be much more profitable by just stacking my D/P bet, as opposed to laying odds.
One clarification I need: If I'm not the new shooter on the Come Out roll, can I wait to put my Don't Pass bet down until the point is established? (I would certainly avoid those 7's and 11's costing me).
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January 25th, 2018 at 11:19:25 PM permalink
no you cannot
get second you pig
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January 25th, 2018 at 11:50:49 PM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

My hope was that I could be much more profitable by just stacking my D/P bet, as opposed to laying odds.

the don't pass and don't come bets can NEVER be increased after the point is established (for each type of bet).

way too much of an advantage if that is done

I think it is considered cheating

IF you do that, it is against the rules and one could get in trouble for it.
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can I wait to put my Don't Pass bet down until the point is established? (I would certainly avoid those 7's and 11's costing me).

once a point is established a don't pass can NOT NEVER be made.
again, it is breaking the rules.
you can make a don't come bet for a different point.

nothing in the rules of the game says you have to Lay the odds
it is up to you
or
your good luck charm
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January 26th, 2018 at 8:26:36 AM permalink
Sally,
Thanks for your help understanding the Don't Pass play. Someone said "Luck always trumps knowledge" so I especially appreciate you sending me "your good luck charm."
Dick
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